One thing is for sure, we are in a loop now that is very hard to get out of.

- if we go up the PL will deduct points meaning it’s almost certain we’re getting relegated no matter what.

- On top of that we’ll have nothing to spend on transfers. That would have been the case anyway.

- If we go back down the EFL will deduct points for this season as we’ve exceeded their permitted losses

- That makes promotion, plus the player sales we need to make to generate cash very difficult

This club has put us in a loop that will take years to get out of. The only way out of this is a competent board hiring a competent DoF and putting in place an exceptional recruitment program backed with the right manager to rebuild. That won’t happen under these owners

Leicester fans need to stop crying at the premier league or trying to blame Rodgers and they need to put pressure on the King Power group to shape up or move on

To be fair to Mersey, he's at least acknowledging that it's the management to blame, whereas TB is still blaming Brendan. If Rudders was 'hoodwinked' by Rodgers, isn't that alone sufficient to require his replacement?

It's a really poor position we're in whatever league we're in next season, having no money to buy the necessary strengthening needed to stay up, probably a fire sale of our best assets in an attempt to comply with FFP, and a points deduction likely to be at the higher end of the tariff as we may be seen to have been evasive rather than cooperative. That's before getting worried whether Enzo's style will be a disaster in the EPL.

Having said which, I don't see that there will likely be pressure building for 'KP out' in the short term, what good would that do at this finely balanced stage of the season; however, if things pan out as badly as they appear to be heading, it might be a different story by Christmas.

Thoroughly depressing.

The KP group are playing to the fans in all of this - that’s the key thing to remember. They know they’ve messed up big time and they are continuing to mess up with each passing decision. What that badly worded statement last night was all about was deflecting any blame from themselves and an attempt to get the fans to focus their anger against the PL. It’s working


If you take a cursory glance on foxestalk - the fans have been blindsided by the unfairness of a system that punishes smaller clubs with ambition. While they may have a point, it misses the entire core of the issue here and that is precisely what Whelan, Top and co want.

How on earth a club that has raised around £200m in transfer revenue from player sales in the last 18 months while spending next to nothing can breach the allowable losses as much as we have is absolutely staggering. It’s mismanagement on an epic scale

While any new owner right now would be inheriting a total mess, they would at least hopefully be capable of starting the rebuild. Something that the ridiculous appointment of Maresca has already demonstrated this club are incapable of doing

And by the way - while I’m not expecting any King Power out banners, how this bunch of spineless fans (and that’s what a lot of Leicester fans are) aren’t at least demanding the sacking of Rudkin is beyond belief.

Instead they’d rather sit there with their clappers and match programme silently watching us fall apart while remembering the good times

Really cant believe Rudkin is still in a job.
Top has placed too much faith in those around him and i believe he has been let down badly and is not strong enough to make the real tough decisions, unlike his father.(who quite frankly would never have let this happen)
Beginning to wonder if Rudkin has some type of hold over Top.

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Really cant believe Rudkin is still in a job.
Top has placed too much faith in those around him and i believe he has been let down badly and is not strong enough to make the real tough decisions, unlike his father.(who quite frankly would never have let this happen)
Beginning to wonder if Rudkin has some type of hold over Top.

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Either he does or Top is just clueless.

Excellent article, spot on https://www.thefosseway.net/viewpoint/leicester-city-ffp-psr-ffs-leicester-are-reaping-what-we-sowed

TB's reaction - Meh, it's not blaming Bodgers.

Really good article and thanks for sharing Nuneaton. TB is so blinded by his own obsession with Rodgers that he can’t entertain any opinions that don’t fit that narrative.

Mersey straddles a delicate balance between ‘our owners are brilliant’ and ‘they’ve made some massive mistakes’ without really wanting to face facts that the mistakes haven’t stopped, but they continue.

It’s a sorry state of affairs and this is just the beginning

One thing that is evident from our tale is it is an illustration of how difficult it is for 'smaller' clubs to break into the 'top six' oligopoly on a consistent basis. The FFP system, however well meaning in its initial and ongoing claimed intentions, appears to be in reality entrenching the existing incumbents in their lofty position. Even Newcastle with all the wealth behind them are finding it difficult to maintain last year's excellence, being merely in 10th at present.

I might argue that maintaining the fine balance between spending as allowed under FFP and performing consistently well in the EPL is impossible in the long term for 'smaller' clubs, it requires near-perfect management of player acquiisition, disposal, contracts and salaries, something we are now all too aware of at our club unfortunately. There are other examples of clubs performing exceptionally well then falling away but it just wouldn't be Leicester unless we showcased the biggest achievement and mightiest fall!

I always thought that the first priority in any season was to get to '40 points' - and got criticised for my perceived negativity as we had now supposedly grown beyond struggling in the EPL and were established feasting at the European top table of the league with the big boys. Unfortunately my concerns came to fruition last season as the management and Brendan set the scene for our downfall.

It will only be a matter of time I suspect before the current overperforming darlings of the EPL, Brighton, make some catastrophic errors and drop into relegation trouble.

Although Newcastle are probably ahead of their programme for advancement in the EPL, FFP seems to have hamstrung their efforts this year - I wonder if it had been in place earlier would it have affected the meteoric rise of Man City? I suspect the answer is yes.

I don’t disagree Nuneaton. The rules are completely skewed against smaller clubs trying to compete. But the way we’ve behaved towards them is shameful in my opinion. We’ve broken our business model, knowing what the consequences could be, then slammed the breaks on transfer dealings which in part led to our relegation and have since attempted to dodge the fallout by playing the EFL and the PL off against each other

Technically we are probably right in terms of challenging the timing of the charges - but either way it’s only delaying the inevitable consequences of trying to cheat an admittedly rigged system. We’re an embarrassment

It's absolutely not a good look when the club's response to any difficulty is to reach for their QC! However justified they feel in challenging what they may consider to be flaws/loopholes in the system it is not likely to end well for us, we appear to be squirming on the end of a large and very nasty hook.

It is a really unwelcome diversion for Enzo, the team and supporters at a critical point in the season; hopefully we will all pull together to at least achieve promotion - the consequences of failure would be to leave us at the mercy of an unforgiving EFL. Not that being at the mercy of an unforgiving EPL is a much more desirable prospect. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place!

I'm thoroughly depressing myself writing this, considering switching from to which is definitely not what I was hoping for this season!

Duh! KC of course!

Great article from the Mercury which I’d encourage Mersey and TB to take a read of.

“Leicester City may have hoped, in responding bullishly to the Premier League and EFL’s actions against them, to create a siege mentality that supercharged the club’s bid for promotion.
They’re railing against the system. They’re a crusader for all wronged clubs. They’re not going to succumb without a fight. That is how they framed the charge for an alleged breach of Profitability and Sustainability Rules and the transfer embargo placed on them last week.

They may have hoped supporters would buy into that stance and join them in their battle. It didn’t work. There is little sympathy for the club. Many fans have instead questioned the running of the club and how badly they were managed to have allegedly broken the rules and yet still been relegated anyway.
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It’s not that there are not legitimate concerns about the regulations and how they may favour the most famous clubs, protecting them from ambitious sides attempting to disrupt the top order. And the club’s point over the premature nature of the EFL embargo, handed out with three months to go in the financial year, feels a fair one.


But it also seems like City’s fight is one of technicalities and timing. The injustice isn’t strong enough to direct the full force of fan rage towards the governing bodies. These are fans who know about the transfer failures, the high wage expenditure and the inability to offload players that have combined to put City in this predicament. Plenty of clubs of a similar size to City have managed to follow the rules and stay in the Premier League, even qualifying for Europe.
There are the contradictions too. The club said they “would prefer the (legal) proceedings to be in public, so its supporters and the wider world can be informed about the important issues of football governance that will be considered”. And yet the very limited communication from the hierarchy with supporters over the past few years suggests fans being informed is far from one of their priorities.

That City claim to be representing all clubs when they were reportedly seeking financial compensation against Everton when they were first charged also feels like a contradiction. It’s not a good look.
While the possible bid to create a siege mentality has not paid off, Enzo Maresca and his players will likely still get a strong backing when the Championship resumes this Friday. The manager has built up plenty of goodwill and the bond between the players and supporters is excellent, having recovered considerably since relegation.
And they need that support. City begin the run-in in a high-pressure situation. Not only do they have potential points penalties hanging over them if the allegations are proven, but they’ve fallen from top spot for the first time in six months. The gap to third has closed considerably and promotion is far from the certainty it seemed only seven or eight weeks ago.
To not get promoted this season would be an even greater disaster now. The squad would likely be dismantled this summer, and further adapting to a Championship revenue as well as ensuring the financial rules aren’t at risk of being broken again would be a tough task. That's even if the registration embargo is lifted. Promotion next season would be a much more difficult challenge.”

By the way have you noticed how quiet it is on here things everything started falling apart? Almost like a couple of very optimistic posters have gone into hiding

I've seen some comments where fans think the authorities are to blame.

Notwithstanding that, however much the club are in the right about the timing, their action to reach for the lawyers is not likely to serve us well in the medium term if we are indeed guilty of breaches of FFP.

It is indeed relatively quiet on here