What’s happening pop pickers?
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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Shows you a clear business plan. I suspect Neto and Gallagher will indeed be high on our list, possibly MGW as well given Forest still in the poooop, and Branthwaite at Everton.
Aren’t Newcastle needing to sell also? Although I’d imagine they will get a big fee for Bruno from City.
£30m plus Harry Winks was the net deal for James Maddison - that’s insanely good business, I don’t know how we got such a free run at him
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 29 seconds ago
£30m plus Harry Winks was the net deal for James Maddison - that’s insanely good business, I don’t know how we got such a free run at him
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We didn't. Newcastle were also were interested but dropped out when he chose us.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
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I think you missed the joke mate.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
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I think you missed the joke mate.
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Not sure with you tbh.
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
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I think you missed the joke mate.
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Not sure with you tbh.
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Never mind.
But yes, if I was serious about us going for Gallagher I wouldn't want to overpay for him. I think the ship has sailed anyway. Look for another more accessible option in the summer.
Chelsea do have a few other players out on loan who they could sell but they have to raise approx £100m by mid to late June to meet PSR.
I don't think the ship has sailed at all.
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Chelsea do have a few other players out on loan who they could sell but they have to raise approx £100m by mid to late June to meet PSR.
I don't think the ship has sailed at all.
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There's also the idea that he wants to stay at Chelsea and not come to us, which also lessens his appeal.
If he was available at a good price and we had a chance of getting him and Ange wanted him then fine, we'd have to consider it. I just think it's a long shot that we will get him.
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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Classic levy picking over the bones of a decaying body!
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Football needs this to happen.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Chelsea do have a few other players out on loan who they could sell but they have to raise approx £100m by mid to late June to meet PSR.
I don't think the ship has sailed at all.
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There's also the idea that he wants to stay at Chelsea and not come to us, which also lessens his appeal.
If he was available at a good price and we had a chance of getting him and Ange wanted him then fine, we'd have to consider it. I just think it's a long shot that we will get him.
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Bet Madders is tapping him up on England duty right now. Business is business. We have a chance.
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
Fridgegirl pooping his pants. Shock
Nothing wrong with forcing clubs to spend within their means. If these points deductions were dished out 20 years ago, oligarchs and Arab princes would have thought twice about ruining football
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
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You and the red tops were the dominant force in driving this sh!t, its a bit rich to start complaining about it now.
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with forcing clubs to spend within their means. If these points deductions were dished out 20 years ago, oligarchs and Arab princes would have thought twice about ruining football
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The main issue with it is that on the face of it, spending within your means is how all businesses SHOULD operate, however football can't be viewed in the same way. For instance, investment in a business outside football comes with a guarantee of growth. If you pay for a service, you'll see a real benefit to that investment. In football those same guarantees don't exist. You can sign a player with all the data in the world but there's no guarantee it will work out, and there's no refund or insurance on that purchase for a 'shoddy job' as there is in business. So even if you operate conservatively, you're only ever one bad signing away from being up the shiiiitter. It basically means that not only do you have to operate within your means, you have to allow for poor judgement and signings that just don't come off and that's never ever going to work out if wages remain as they are. Sustainability rules as they currently stand do not align with the inflated market and astronomical wages. It's impossible to sustain.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 15 minutes ago
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
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I like it. It places greater emphasis on running your club well, from top to bottom. Look at United, more money than anyone and doing relatively shiiiit for a decade. Liverpool have had far less resources handed to them but their club is run so well that they have been able to truly compete.
Spurs income is at least on a par with Arsenal and Chelsea's, probably comfortably more if we make the UCL, so there is no reason why we cannot emulate them IF we are well run and continue to make good decisions in the transfer market and with coaching appointments.
As for the fans of those clubs who are on the FFP trapdoor, I think this whole experience of the last 1 or 2 years gives real tangible meaning to the phrase "be careful what you wish for"
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with forcing clubs to spend within their means. If these points deductions were dished out 20 years ago, oligarchs and Arab princes would have thought twice about ruining football
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The main issue with it is that on the face of it, spending within your means is how all businesses SHOULD operate, however football can't be viewed in the same way. For instance, investment in a business outside football comes with a guarantee of growth. If you pay for a service, you'll see a real benefit to that investment. In football those same guarantees don't exist. You can sign a player with all the data in the world but there's no guarantee it will work out, and there's no refund or insurance on that purchase for a 'shoddy job' as there is in business. So even if you operate conservatively, you're only ever one bad signing away from being up the shiiiitter. It basically means that not only do you have to operate within your means, you have to allow for poor judgement and signings that just don't come off and that's never ever going to work out if wages remain as they are. Sustainability rules as they currently stand do not align with the inflated market and astronomical wages. It's impossible to sustain.
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But the PL rules allow for £105m losses as well as infrastructure investment outside of FFP , so all of spurs investment in the stadium for example is not counted, but it has enabled much increased revenues....and revenue is key in this FFP/PSR world, along with good control of costs.
It forces clubs to invest in the right way, by growing the club and its revenues streams rather than speculating on 100s of millions spent chasing success (see Everton !)
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
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You and the red tops were the dominant force in driving this sh!t, its a bit rich to start complaining about it now.
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I can see the benefits in both ways but in its current guise it won't work. All it's doing right now is punishing smaller clubs that want to show a little ambition. I initially thought this might work but I'm not so sure anymore. The Premier League as a whole will unquestionably suffer but this is killing the dream for so many. Unless you're in that top pack, it does feel a bit unfair. I'll be watching to see how City are treated for their 100+ charges because unless the book is thrown at them and they're kicked out of the feckin league, I don't see how this is in anyway 'fair play'. They won't though. They'll get a slap on the wrist. Their lawyers will make sure of that. The whole thing stinks.
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posted on 22/3/24
Or who SHOULD be next?
posted on 22/3/24
What’s happening pop pickers?
posted on 22/3/24
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
posted on 22/3/24
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 6 seconds ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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posted on 22/3/24
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 17 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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Shows you a clear business plan. I suspect Neto and Gallagher will indeed be high on our list, possibly MGW as well given Forest still in the poooop, and Branthwaite at Everton.
Aren’t Newcastle needing to sell also? Although I’d imagine they will get a big fee for Bruno from City.
posted on 22/3/24
£30m plus Harry Winks was the net deal for James Maddison - that’s insanely good business, I don’t know how we got such a free run at him
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 29 seconds ago
£30m plus Harry Winks was the net deal for James Maddison - that’s insanely good business, I don’t know how we got such a free run at him
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We didn't. Newcastle were also were interested but dropped out when he chose us.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
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I think you missed the joke mate.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
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I think you missed the joke mate.
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Not sure with you tbh.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Why pay an inflated fee for a player with one year left on his contract, if it means helping out one of our rivals with PSR?
Lowball the funk out of them and make the deal past the their deadline to raise funds. We paid over the odds for BJ. We need to learn.
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I think you missed the joke mate.
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Not sure with you tbh.
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Never mind.
But yes, if I was serious about us going for Gallagher I wouldn't want to overpay for him. I think the ship has sailed anyway. Look for another more accessible option in the summer.
posted on 22/3/24
Chelsea do have a few other players out on loan who they could sell but they have to raise approx £100m by mid to late June to meet PSR.
I don't think the ship has sailed at all.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Chelsea do have a few other players out on loan who they could sell but they have to raise approx £100m by mid to late June to meet PSR.
I don't think the ship has sailed at all.
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There's also the idea that he wants to stay at Chelsea and not come to us, which also lessens his appeal.
If he was available at a good price and we had a chance of getting him and Ange wanted him then fine, we'd have to consider it. I just think it's a long shot that we will get him.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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Classic levy picking over the bones of a decaying body!
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs signed Everton's best player at the time, Richarlison. Shortly after, Everton docked points.
Spurs signed Forests best player at the time, Johnson. Shortly after, Forest docked points.
Spurs signed Leicester's best player at the time, Maddison. Shortly after, Leicester docked points.
Who else can we ruin?
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We should go all in for Gallagher now. Pay whatever it takes.
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Football needs this to happen.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Chelsea do have a few other players out on loan who they could sell but they have to raise approx £100m by mid to late June to meet PSR.
I don't think the ship has sailed at all.
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There's also the idea that he wants to stay at Chelsea and not come to us, which also lessens his appeal.
If he was available at a good price and we had a chance of getting him and Ange wanted him then fine, we'd have to consider it. I just think it's a long shot that we will get him.
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Bet Madders is tapping him up on England duty right now. Business is business. We have a chance.
posted on 22/3/24
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
posted on 22/3/24
Fridgegirl pooping his pants. Shock
posted on 22/3/24
Nothing wrong with forcing clubs to spend within their means. If these points deductions were dished out 20 years ago, oligarchs and Arab princes would have thought twice about ruining football
posted on 22/3/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
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You and the red tops were the dominant force in driving this sh!t, its a bit rich to start complaining about it now.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with forcing clubs to spend within their means. If these points deductions were dished out 20 years ago, oligarchs and Arab princes would have thought twice about ruining football
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The main issue with it is that on the face of it, spending within your means is how all businesses SHOULD operate, however football can't be viewed in the same way. For instance, investment in a business outside football comes with a guarantee of growth. If you pay for a service, you'll see a real benefit to that investment. In football those same guarantees don't exist. You can sign a player with all the data in the world but there's no guarantee it will work out, and there's no refund or insurance on that purchase for a 'shoddy job' as there is in business. So even if you operate conservatively, you're only ever one bad signing away from being up the shiiiitter. It basically means that not only do you have to operate within your means, you have to allow for poor judgement and signings that just don't come off and that's never ever going to work out if wages remain as they are. Sustainability rules as they currently stand do not align with the inflated market and astronomical wages. It's impossible to sustain.
posted on 22/3/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 15 minutes ago
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
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I like it. It places greater emphasis on running your club well, from top to bottom. Look at United, more money than anyone and doing relatively shiiiit for a decade. Liverpool have had far less resources handed to them but their club is run so well that they have been able to truly compete.
Spurs income is at least on a par with Arsenal and Chelsea's, probably comfortably more if we make the UCL, so there is no reason why we cannot emulate them IF we are well run and continue to make good decisions in the transfer market and with coaching appointments.
As for the fans of those clubs who are on the FFP trapdoor, I think this whole experience of the last 1 or 2 years gives real tangible meaning to the phrase "be careful what you wish for"
posted on 22/3/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with forcing clubs to spend within their means. If these points deductions were dished out 20 years ago, oligarchs and Arab princes would have thought twice about ruining football
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The main issue with it is that on the face of it, spending within your means is how all businesses SHOULD operate, however football can't be viewed in the same way. For instance, investment in a business outside football comes with a guarantee of growth. If you pay for a service, you'll see a real benefit to that investment. In football those same guarantees don't exist. You can sign a player with all the data in the world but there's no guarantee it will work out, and there's no refund or insurance on that purchase for a 'shoddy job' as there is in business. So even if you operate conservatively, you're only ever one bad signing away from being up the shiiiitter. It basically means that not only do you have to operate within your means, you have to allow for poor judgement and signings that just don't come off and that's never ever going to work out if wages remain as they are. Sustainability rules as they currently stand do not align with the inflated market and astronomical wages. It's impossible to sustain.
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But the PL rules allow for £105m losses as well as infrastructure investment outside of FFP , so all of spurs investment in the stadium for example is not counted, but it has enabled much increased revenues....and revenue is key in this FFP/PSR world, along with good control of costs.
It forces clubs to invest in the right way, by growing the club and its revenues streams rather than speculating on 100s of millions spent chasing success (see Everton !)
posted on 22/3/24
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 17 minutes ago
There's something not quite right about all this. There's a very real possibility that we could get to the end of the season but not know the fate of so many clubs. Forest, Everton and Leicester all have punishments and appeals hanging over them that is destroying fans' right to celebrate.
Ironically, these sustainability rules are unsustainable. It all seems like a good idea until they come crawling on our front lawn. We might think we operate perfectly but they'll find something eventually. They already did with the Defoe signing so there'll be something else.
I know we all think that it suits us but does it? Really? As far as i'm concerned, all this does is lock us in as the 5th or 6th richest club in the league. If Levy did leave and someone else comes in, we won't be able to operate any differently. We'll just sit where we currently are.
Also, this is going to completely destroy the Premier League because it will slow down the financial cogs. We've already seen a slowing down in terms of spending. What this will mean long term is that Madrid and Barca will dominate once again because tv money in Spain is pretty much only given to them. In an age where owner wealth can't be invested, the tv money winner is king. It will kill us domestically.
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You and the red tops were the dominant force in driving this sh!t, its a bit rich to start complaining about it now.
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I can see the benefits in both ways but in its current guise it won't work. All it's doing right now is punishing smaller clubs that want to show a little ambition. I initially thought this might work but I'm not so sure anymore. The Premier League as a whole will unquestionably suffer but this is killing the dream for so many. Unless you're in that top pack, it does feel a bit unfair. I'll be watching to see how City are treated for their 100+ charges because unless the book is thrown at them and they're kicked out of the feckin league, I don't see how this is in anyway 'fair play'. They won't though. They'll get a slap on the wrist. Their lawyers will make sure of that. The whole thing stinks.
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