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posted on 6/4/24

comment by True Blue ( Wake up Boo ) (U9486)
posted less than a minute ago
Mav gets the plaudits but he was very poor today
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No he wasn’t. He’s been one of the players putting a shift in and constantly trying to make something happen. We’d have lost 2 points without him

posted on 6/4/24

Well done Lads, made hard work of it but the 3 points was all that mattered

Now lets stay top till the end of the Season

posted on 6/4/24

Taggarts just given Mavididi MOTM

posted on 6/4/24

Well done Mavs, Vestergard and KDH. Fack off Enzo

posted on 6/4/24

The win is the most important thing today with the other results, can’t believe both teams lost. They can’t fack this up now with a game in hand surely.

posted on 6/4/24

comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 2 minutes ago
The win is the most important thing today with the other results, can’t believe both teams lost. They can’t fack this up now with a game in hand surely.
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We are Leicester, History tell us we can do anything!

posted on 6/4/24

comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 2 minutes ago
The win is the most important thing today with the other results, can’t believe both teams lost. They can’t fack this up now with a game in hand surely.
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Oh we absolutely can under this fraud. We’ve already blown a 17 point lead - he’s worse than Rodgers in that respect. On another day that would have been 2 points dropped. This style of football is gash and everyone but Rudkin and Top can see it won’t get us anywhere

Still very possible we’ll end up in the playoffs

posted on 6/4/24

I agree, the football is shiiiit. Enzo telling Doyle off first half for hitting cross field passes into space pretty much sums it up

posted on 6/4/24

😂😂😂

posted on 6/4/24

So annoyed with Enzo. He could be doing so much more with this group of players.

posted on 6/4/24

comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 20 minutes ago
So annoyed with Enzo. He could be doing so much more with this group of players.
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Completely agreed. I reckon even Mersey would now hold his hands up and say it was the wrong appointment for us. Getting promotion should be the bare minimum with this group of players, I don’t care how much damage Rodgers may have done the previous season - he was long gone by the time Enzo arrived

He’s inherited a squad that is getting paid £80m in the championship. That’s unheard of. He’s got a squad with ex England internationals, top 6 PL players with European experience. That’s unheard of at this level, only Newcastle and maybe Villa come close

Despite that he’s never really had us playing well consistently - we’ve racked up points because we’re so much better than everyone else. Our record against the top teams in this division is woeful. We are blunt up top and totally reliant on the wingers. We play suicidal football from the back and he blown a 17 point lead to drag us back into a 3 horse race

It’s another rubbish decision from Rudkin who is enabled by Top at every turn

posted on 6/4/24

comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 20 minutes ago
So annoyed with Enzo. He could be doing so much more with this group of players.
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Completely agreed. I reckon even Mersey would now hold his hands up and say it was the wrong appointment for us. Getting promotion should be the bare minimum with this group of players, I don’t care how much damage Rodgers may have done the previous season - he was long gone by the time Enzo arrived

He’s inherited a squad that is getting paid £80m in the championship. That’s unheard of. He’s got a squad with ex England internationals, top 6 PL players with European experience. That’s unheard of at this level, only Newcastle and maybe Villa come close

Despite that he’s never really had us playing well consistently - we’ve racked up points because we’re so much better than everyone else. Our record against the top teams in this division is woeful. We are blunt up top and totally reliant on the wingers. We play suicidal football from the back and he blown a 17 point lead to drag us back into a 3 horse race

It’s another rubbish decision from Rudkin who is enabled by Top at every turn
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It’s only the wrong appointment if we don’t go up. But I have to admit I am worried this brand of football just isn’t possible without world class players.

Enzo has done an amazing job uniting the squad and improving the mentality of the team which is huge. But the tactics still look like the hood us back rather than help us into ally agree and admit!

posted on 6/4/24

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 20 minutes ago
So annoyed with Enzo. He could be doing so much more with this group of players.
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Completely agreed. I reckon even Mersey would now hold his hands up and say it was the wrong appointment for us. Getting promotion should be the bare minimum with this group of players, I don’t care how much damage Rodgers may have done the previous season - he was long gone by the time Enzo arrived

He’s inherited a squad that is getting paid £80m in the championship. That’s unheard of. He’s got a squad with ex England internationals, top 6 PL players with European experience. That’s unheard of at this level, only Newcastle and maybe Villa come close

Despite that he’s never really had us playing well consistently - we’ve racked up points because we’re so much better than everyone else. Our record against the top teams in this division is woeful. We are blunt up top and totally reliant on the wingers. We play suicidal football from the back and he blown a 17 point lead to drag us back into a 3 horse race

It’s another rubbish decision from Rudkin who is enabled by Top at every turn
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It’s only the wrong appointment if we don’t go up. But I have to admit I am worried this brand of football just isn’t possible without world class players.

Enzo has done an amazing job uniting the squad and improving the mentality of the team which is huge. But the tactics still look like the hood us back rather than help us into ally agree and admit!
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Sorry - I think what you’ve said is so so wrong Mersey.

It’s the wrong appointment EVEN if we go up and then get hammered in the PL next season playing this brand of football. Anyone with half a footballing brain can see what will happen. If we have to bin him off 8 weeks into the season because we’re getting hammered and start all over again - then yes it will have been the wrong appointment

I think the idea of a rebuild is you bring in someone for the long term - not a guy that can just get a squad that is way too good for this division short term promotion. This is where Rudkin has got it so wrong - but you’ll never admit that because it blows a hole in your ‘Top is leading us back to the promised land” theory.

I’m not saying he’s all bad. But look at the impact a Rodgers had when he arrived. Doesn’t mean the guy is a great manager when you see how it panned out in the long term. Plus - doesn’t the throwing away of a 17 point lead and playing this style of football bother you even if we go up

I think you give him far too much credit for inheriting a squad that is miles better than the rest of this league. Not saying he hasn’t done well to turn the mentality around - he has, but for goodness sake Mersey, he’s got some top 6 PL players in the championship! He should be doing well

posted on 6/4/24

Nope, in entire agreement with your there 99. All ok saying is we could have got in a manager that didn’t manage to change the mentality of the team. But I’d happily see Maresca leave being poached by a “bigger team” in the summer if we go up!

posted on 6/4/24

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 15 minutes ago
Nope, in entire agreement with your there 99. All ok saying is we could have got in a manager that didn’t manage to change the mentality of the team. But I’d happily see Maresca leave being poached by a “bigger team” in the summer if we go up!
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We could have done but I seriously think we would have had to appoint someone like Frank Lampard for that to have happened. And I think even Frank would get this lot in the top 6.

Basically what I’m saying is this was a dream job. This squad has got to be up there with the best the championship has ever seen. Why Rudkin thought it would be a good idea to go for a coach with no managerial experience to emulate Rodgers I’ve no idea. Still - maresca has done well to get the players on side - but he’s not a manager, that much is obvious

And let’s face it - it Enzo did leave in the summer, do you really trust Tops right hand man to get the next appointment right?

posted on 6/4/24

I think even Frank Lampard could have wrecked this squad 😂.

I agree Maresca has his flaws but I think you’re being overly hard. A key job of a manager is to motivate and bring a squad together. Rodgers destroyed this squad and Maresca has made a set of player that want to play for the club again.

That deserves some credit for me.

posted on 7/4/24

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted about an hour ago
I think even Frank Lampard could have wrecked this squad 😂.

I agree Maresca has his flaws but I think you’re being overly hard. A key job of a manager is to motivate and bring a squad together. Rodgers destroyed this squad and Maresca has made a set of player that want to play for the club again.

That deserves some credit for me.
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Rodgers didn’t destroy the squad. That’s a silly thing to say. Rodgers behaved badly and didn’t want to be here but neither did the half a dozen players whose contracts were running down. It was a perfect storm created by Rodgers and Rudkin. It’s far far easier for a manager to come in with a fresh slate when the dead wood has been cleared out. I think you give Maresca too much credit and blame Rodgers for absolutely anything and everything

The truth is as always somewhere inbetween. I think what you’ll eventually see is that Maresca is a no. 2. An excellent coach but tactically pretty much out of his depth, even with a squad that is miles better than the rest of this division. He’s made very hard work of the job in hand and I don’t think he’s been close to being tested yet

posted on 7/4/24

Some credit where it's due. He took off Abdul, who was having a shocker, and replaced him with Yunus, who delivered a brilliant assist for the winner.

However, he persists in starting Wilf, who clearly needed to be carefully integrated back into the team rather than being thrown straight back in, as he is not yet playing to the high standard he set earlier in the season; it's not as if there isn't another option there as he could try starting Dennis.

Enzo has finally made a substitution early enough - with Vards coming on for the ineffective Daka. This guy tries hard, but to me looks more like a winger who's being made to play centrally and lacks the instincts of a striker. I don't know why he isn't starting Jamie, given we have 6 Cup finals left to play this season; maybe he's got an eye on next season when we may not have Vards and he's trying to get Daka used to being the main man up front, but we need to use Jamie as much as possible to get us over the line whilst we still have him this year. I realise he isn't likely to be able to start every game, but Enzo started Daka on Monday in addition to yesterday.

posted on 7/4/24

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 8 hours, 13 minutes ago
I think even Frank Lampard could have wrecked this squad 😂.

I agree Maresca has his flaws but I think you’re being overly hard. A key job of a manager is to motivate and bring a squad together. Rodgers destroyed this squad and Maresca has made a set of player that want to play for the club again.

That deserves some credit for me.
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Rodgers basically destroyed the Club let alone the squad!!

You’re bang on about Maresca, the way he culled the dead wood and built a new Team around the few remaining has been fantastic and a breath of fresh air for the Club.

Yes he’s Frustrating sometimes and there’s still a long way to go with him only being in his first Season but he deserves more credit than he gets.

Through Adversity character is built , struggling now will be good for the team in the long run, had we have continued to stroll the league next Season assuming we do go up would have been a much bigger shock.

Let’s get over the line and see where we go from there, who stays, who goes and maybe who comes in.

posted on 7/4/24

Some really interesting comments on here about the manager.
I agree with lots of them and I think he is going to turn out to be a great coach but not a manager.
Personally I do fear for our future with him in charge, especially if Rudkin is still stealing a living at our club,but if he was to go in the summer for whatever reason,then who would be most suitable replacement.?
If anyone suggests Southgate then the lunatics really have taken over the asylum!!!

posted on 7/4/24

Spot on Nuneaton and Thorney once again

You can see how a minority of fans (in my humble opinion!!) are blinding themselves to the real problems at the club by laying everything at Rodgers door. To say he destroyed the club is utterly ridiculous - he didn’t have the power to.

Yes he behaved very poorly and is responsible for our relegation in terms of performances on the pitch. But some make out that he deliberately tried to sabotage us by forcing players out the club for eg. It’s just nonsense.

He was left in post fat too long, wasn’t half as good as he thought he was and fell out with Soyuncu basically. He cost us our PL status but equally so did Top and Rudkin. They are just as culpable if you’re going to throw accusations about destroying the club.

Maresca has been a breath of fresh air - I’m not denying that but I think most managers who have been after last seasons disaster. He got to start anew with the deadwood cleared out for him. Rodgers had players in the last year of their contract that didn’t want to be here. Would love to have seen Maresca last season…..

Hes a coach as Thorney says. Worse than that / he’s from the same tactical school as Rodgers and plays a brand of football that will get us nowhere in the end

posted on 7/4/24

“ Through Adversity character is built , struggling now will be good for the team in the long run, had we have continued to stroll the league next Season assuming we do go up would have been a much bigger shock”

I mean this is just bonkers. How does throwing away a 17 point lead prepare us for next season? It’s not as if we are learning from any of the mistakes that caused that to happen is it? Look at Birminghams goal yesterday.

posted on 7/4/24

comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 58 minutes ago
“ Through Adversity character is built , struggling now will be good for the team in the long run, had we have continued to stroll the league next Season assuming we do go up would have been a much bigger shock”

I mean this is just bonkers. How does throwing away a 17 point lead prepare us for next season? It’s not as if we are learning from any of the mistakes that caused that to happen is it? Look at Birminghams goal yesterday.
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If you want to see what's waiting for us next season trying to play Man City Lite (if we get promoted), then have a look at Everton's goal - almost a carbon copy of the one we conceded yesterday, and a result of both Managers' obsession with playing out from the back.

posted on 7/4/24

comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 58 minutes ago
“ Through Adversity character is built , struggling now will be good for the team in the long run, had we have continued to stroll the league next Season assuming we do go up would have been a much bigger shock”

I mean this is just bonkers. How does throwing away a 17 point lead prepare us for next season? It’s not as if we are learning from any of the mistakes that caused that to happen is it? Look at Birminghams goal yesterday.
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If you want to see what's waiting for us next season trying to play Man City Lite (if we get promoted), then have a look at Everton's goal - almost a carbon copy of the one we conceded yesterday, and a result of both Managers' obsession with playing out from the back.
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I was thinking that when I watched MOTD. Burnley are the exact template for us next season. We said it from the moment Enzo came in. Why can’t Rudkin see it? Yes bringing in a manager that can freshen things up and change the mentality is really important. Credit to Maresca - he’s done that. But there is no sense at all in bringing in a style of play that cannot succeed in the long term.

posted on 7/4/24

It’s not really saying much Nuneaton, nearly every Team in at least the Top two leagues if not more play out from the back now.

It’s just the latest modern style, nothing unique at all to City or us.

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