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posted on 7/4/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't see the problem with Beaton. He called everything he seen.

He can understandably not see Goldson's handball so VAR asked him to review it

He didn't see the foul in the lead up to the Rangers goal so VAR asked him to review it

He seen the dive by Silva and rightly booked him but VAR didn't show him Johnston getting to the ball first

VAR gave Rangers the draw not John Beaton
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How the fook Beaton couldn’t see the foul by Lawrence I don’t know.

That was terrible refereeing. In my view if the ref has a full view of something like that his call should stand.


My view from the game was Beaton had a good view of the Lawrence tackle and waved play on. To let that lead to a goal and pull it back shouldn’t be what VAR is for imo. That’s re-refereeing

posted on 7/4/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ball is still ahead of Silva for him to run on to when he gets kicked in the knee

Anyone saying it’s not a penalty is a fecking idiot. Stonewall penalty.
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Apart from Johnston getting the ball first

Anyone saying it's a stonewaller is an idiot

posted on 7/4/24

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ball is still ahead of Silva for him to run on to when he gets kicked in the knee

Anyone saying it’s not a penalty is a fecking idiot. Stonewall penalty.
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Apart from Johnston getting the ball first

Anyone saying it's a stonewaller is an idiot
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Ex professional referee Steve Conroy will be deeply offended ROF. However I’m sure Dermot Gallagher will bail Beaton out tommorrow as per 😉

posted on 7/4/24

Even if Johnston got a touch on the ball first, he then subsequently fouled Silva who was clearly going to get on the end of the loose ball. It's a penalty.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 7/4/24

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago

My view from the game was Beaton had a good view of the Lawrence tackle and waved play on. To let that lead to a goal and pull it back shouldn’t be what VAR is for imo. That’s re-refereeing
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It really isn't. It is one of the purposes of VAR to check every goal to make sure there were no offences in the build up. It is refereeing exactly the way intended as it stands.

posted on 7/4/24

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ball is still ahead of Silva for him to run on to when he gets kicked in the knee

Anyone saying it’s not a penalty is a fecking idiot. Stonewall penalty.
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Apart from Johnston getting the ball first

Anyone saying it's a stonewaller is an idiot
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Gets the ball so much that Silva still has control to run on to it

If you think kicking someone in the knee doesn’t impede them there’s no hope

If you think getting a small touch on the ball allows you to kick someone in the knee, when they would otherwise have had control of the ball then you can’t have been watching football for the last five years

posted on 7/4/24

comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ball is still ahead of Silva for him to run on to when he gets kicked in the knee

Anyone saying it’s not a penalty is a fecking idiot. Stonewall penalty.
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Apart from Johnston getting the ball first

Anyone saying it's a stonewaller is an idiot
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Ex professional referee Steve Conroy will be deeply offended ROF. However I’m sure Dermot Gallagher will bail Beaton out tommorrow as per 😉
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It probably wouldn’t have been a penalty in the early 2000s in Scotland. Probably would have been in Europe.

It’s a clear and obvious foul, anything else is nonsense.

More obvious and clear than a good few you’ve seen given in England even in the last month

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 7/4/24

AJ made contact and Silva dived. Probably wasn't enough to bring him down if he was a real man but that's the game. It was easier for Beaton to give it than not and trust his initial instincts but no complaint. At least nice to see majority of bears want him hunted back down the road.

TBH we might as well save time and not have the refs over to the monitor. None of them are going against their colleagues, that is clear.

posted on 7/4/24

Johnstone didnt get a second yellow as var doesn’t allow this - only a straight red.

posted on 7/4/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ball is still ahead of Silva for him to run on to when he gets kicked in the knee

Anyone saying it’s not a penalty is a fecking idiot. Stonewall penalty.
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Apart from Johnston getting the ball first

Anyone saying it's a stonewaller is an idiot
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Ex professional referee Steve Conroy will be deeply offended ROF. However I’m sure Dermot Gallagher will bail Beaton out tommorrow as per 😉
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It probably wouldn’t have been a penalty in the early 2000s in Scotland. Probably would have been in Europe.

It’s a clear and obvious foul, anything else is nonsense.

More obvious and clear than a good few you’ve seen given in England even in the last month
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Look. I fully expect Rangers to get that as a Pen at Ibrox. It’s soft. But I expect that to be given in the modern game unfortunately.

But your suggestion that Silva was getting the ball if AJ didn’t “kick him in the knee” is in your words ‘nonsense’.

As he had done all game, Silva was already going down regardless of what AJ did. He had already decided to plant his massive horsey face into the turf. He wasn’t getting any ball. He was playing for a pen.

AJ was naive to leave a leg dangling. But to suggest AJ took Fabio out by “kicking” his knee is fiction. To transform the word ‘contact’ to ‘kicking’ is a little melodramatic.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 7/4/24

comment by System-Addict ••• ••••• •• (U9239)
posted 17 minutes ago

To transform the word ‘contact’ to ‘kicking’ is a little melodramatic.
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posted on 7/4/24

comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
The ball is still ahead of Silva for him to run on to when he gets kicked in the knee

Anyone saying it’s not a penalty is a fecking idiot. Stonewall penalty.
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Apart from Johnston getting the ball first

Anyone saying it's a stonewaller is an idiot
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Ex professional referee Steve Conroy will be deeply offended ROF. However I’m sure Dermot Gallagher will bail Beaton out tommorrow as per 😉
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It probably wouldn’t have been a penalty in the early 2000s in Scotland. Probably would have been in Europe.

It’s a clear and obvious foul, anything else is nonsense.

More obvious and clear than a good few you’ve seen given in England even in the last month
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Look. I fully expect Rangers to get that as a Pen at Ibrox. It’s soft. But I expect that to be given in the modern game unfortunately.

But your suggestion that Silva was getting the ball if AJ didn’t “kick him in the knee” is in your words ‘nonsense’.

As he had done all game, Silva was already going down regardless of what AJ did. He had already decided to plant his massive horsey face into the turf. He wasn’t getting any ball. He was playing for a pen.

AJ was naive to leave a leg dangling. But to suggest AJ took Fabio out by “kicking” his knee is fiction. To transform the word ‘contact’ to ‘kicking’ is a little melodramatic.
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Aye that’s fair enough. I guess what I mean is looking at it without perspective of it being Silva and him being a diving coont, attacking player was still in control of ball if he wanted to be

Is always being given as a pen these days

posted on 8/4/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.

posted on 8/4/24

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.
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Steve Conroy was mentioned earlier, he didn’t think VAR should have looked at it and thinks the goal should have stood.

posted on 8/4/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.
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Steve Conroy was mentioned earlier, he didn’t think VAR should have looked at it and thinks the goal should have stood.
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So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul? As that should be the determining factor as to whether good should have stood.

posted on 8/4/24

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.
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Steve Conroy was mentioned earlier, he didn’t think VAR should have looked at it and thinks the goal should have stood.
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So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul? As that should be the determining factor as to whether good should have stood.
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You can argue with the three who unanimously agreed the goal should have stood.

No idea who they are bar Steve Conroy. But he was mentioned earlier so if his view is being taken on the pen then should be on disallowed goal

posted on 8/4/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve Conroy was mentioned earlier, he didn’t think VAR should have looked at it and thinks the goal should have stood.
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So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul? As that should be the determining factor as to whether good should have stood.
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You can argue with the three who unanimously agreed the goal should have stood.

No idea who they are bar Steve Conroy. But he was mentioned earlier so if his view is being taken on the pen then should be on disallowed goal
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The 3? I don’t know who they are either, and only mentioned Steve Conroy as you did.

I’ll ask the same question again; So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul?

posted on 8/4/24

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve Conroy was mentioned earlier, he didn’t think VAR should have looked at it and thinks the goal should have stood.
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So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul? As that should be the determining factor as to whether good should have stood.
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You can argue with the three who unanimously agreed the goal should have stood.

No idea who they are bar Steve Conroy. But he was mentioned earlier so if his view is being taken on the pen then should be on disallowed goal
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The 3? I don’t know who they are either, and only mentioned Steve Conroy as you did.

I’ll ask the same question again; So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul?
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You want me to argue Steve Conroy’s points for him?

posted on 8/4/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 17 hours, 36 minutes ago
CCV kicks the ball away when he's out of position
No yellow given

That's about the only real error I think he made, one that VAR couldn't back him up for

As for everything else...first pen would've been hard to see, can see how he booked Silva at first but on reflection it's a pen......disallowed goal, if he wasn't sure he could let it rumble on knowing VAR could look at it if we scored (think some refs do this now)

Didn't get much wrong for me
Walsh made the right calls in VAR room which I'm happier about
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What? A clear foul in the middle of the park isn’t given because it MIGHT eventually lead to a goal? 😂 nonsense Stevie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve Conroy was mentioned earlier, he didn’t think VAR should have looked at it and thinks the goal should have stood.
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So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul? As that should be the determining factor as to whether good should have stood.
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You can argue with the three who unanimously agreed the goal should have stood.

No idea who they are bar Steve Conroy. But he was mentioned earlier so if his view is being taken on the pen then should be on disallowed goal
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The 3? I don’t know who they are either, and only mentioned Steve Conroy as you did.

I’ll ask the same question again; So Steve Conroy didn’t think it was a foul?
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You want me to argue Steve Conroy’s points for him?
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I’m not wanting you to argue his point. 😂

You referenced Steve Conroy and his views. I asked for clarification. I’m not asking for you to justify them, just asking you, as someone who referenced his views, to confirm what they are. If you don’t know, or if Steve Conroy didn't provide any comment on whether there was a foul in the buildup, then that’s fine, you can just say that. 👍

posted on 8/4/24

Just watched a slow mo replay of the ‘penalty’ incident. As Michael Stewart said, ‘Never a penalty’

Silva the diver assisted by VAR

posted on 9/4/24

Aaaah Michael Stewart co-commentating on behalf of every other Celtic die hard out there.

Every decision awarded in Rangers favour was a shocker and every decision awarded against Rangers was instantly clearly correct according to that clown.

The BBC need to seriously question why they continue to employ Stewart - he is beyond parody now.

He’s not just a walloper that hates Rangers btw. He’s also a massive waIloper in general. I have had the misfortune of hearing him on BBC Scotland a couple of times in recent weeks and he’s had ding dongs with guys like Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre live on air. Even his colleagues clearly can’t stand him.

posted on 9/4/24

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
Aaaah Michael Stewart co-commentating on behalf of every other Celtic die hard out there.

Every decision awarded in Rangers favour was a shocker and every decision awarded against Rangers was instantly clearly correct according to that clown.

The BBC need to seriously question why they continue to employ Stewart - he is beyond parody now.

He’s not just a walloper that hates Rangers btw. He’s also a massive waIloper in general. I have had the misfortune of hearing him on BBC Scotland a couple of times in recent weeks and he’s had ding dongs with guys like Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre live on air. Even his colleagues clearly can’t stand him.
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So the BBC should only employ pro Rangers pundits then like Steven Thompson, Neil McCann and Kenny Miller?

Not pro Hearts? Not pro Celtic Just the ones that you agree with?

posted on 9/4/24

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
Aaaah Michael Stewart co-commentating on behalf of every other Celtic die hard out there.

Every decision awarded in Rangers favour was a shocker and every decision awarded against Rangers was instantly clearly correct according to that clown.

The BBC need to seriously question why they continue to employ Stewart - he is beyond parody now.

He’s not just a walloper that hates Rangers btw. He’s also a massive waIloper in general. I have had the misfortune of hearing him on BBC Scotland a couple of times in recent weeks and he’s had ding dongs with guys like Allan Preston and Kenny McIntyre live on air. Even his colleagues clearly can’t stand him.
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So the BBC should only employ pro Rangers pundits then like Steven Thompson, Neil McCann and Kenny Miller?

Not pro Hearts? Not pro Celtic Just the ones that you agree with?
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I didnt say any of that so not sure why you would think that.

To answer your question - no - I am fine with BBC using a balanced mix of pundits.

Michael Stewart is just a walloper of a bloke who clearly has a specific issue with Rangers. He cannot hide his hatred for us and it colours his view on every incident he gives an opinion on.

He is completely incapable of any reasonable assessment when it comes to anything to do with Rangers.

Peter Grant even grudgingly admitted he could see why the penalty was given on Silva on sunday.

Meanwhile Stewart is screaming like a spoilt 9 year old 'thats never a penalty, he gets the ball!'. Meaning he either doesnt understand the rules or his hatred of Rangers prevents him from considering them.

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