comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Things are rarely so black and white in football and in life generally.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 40 minutes ago
Wan-Bissaka did not touch Harvey Elliot so the penalty has to be overturned.
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Was very soft IMO, but Bissaka never touched the ball either. Did he impede Elliot?
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Yes
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I thought so as well.
IMO both the Arsenal and Liverpool ones were correctly given as pens. lampety got the ball but was more of a scrape, before he took out Jesus.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 24 seconds ago
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comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
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Fack me you are thick
Jesus knocks the ball past Lamptey, Lamptey takes Jesus out. Penalty. The fact it brushed Lamptey as it went past him is totally irrelevant. He fouled Jesus.
A fair tackle is winning the ball, not getting a brush that doesn't change its direction at all.
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 2 minutes ago
IMO both the Arsenal and Liverpool ones were correctly given as pens. lampety got the ball but was more of a scrape, before he took out Jesus.
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nEtBaLl iS mOrE fOr YoU
Both the Liverpool and Arsenal penalties were absolute stonewall. Utterly ridiculous to argue against them
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posted 26 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
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Fack me you are thick
Jesus knocks the ball past Lamptey, Lamptey takes Jesus out. Penalty. The fact it brushed Lamptey as it went past him is totally irrelevant. He fouled Jesus.
A fair tackle is winning the ball, not getting a brush that doesn't change its direction at all.
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Not sure you've seen the tackle, soft lad
Not sure ive seen the rule that says a tackle is only legitimate is you make a strong contact on the ball.
I initially disagreed with the Arsenal penalty, because a week earlier Doku kicked AMA in the chest and the VAR team literally said ‘He’s touched the ball’ so was working off that.
It’s a penalty though.
Liverpool, clear penalty imo. He’s slide in, missed the ball and caught the trailing leg. Completely on AWB that.
Maddison has to go and it’s weird that he didn’t.
Shame we’re all talking about the refs again though. Some cracking games again, this weekend.
The Wolves one is far trickier imo.
I think it’s pretty hard to argue he’s not interfering with play, regardless of the fact the keeper would likely not have saved.
I think if you’re offside in the penalty box it should be offside no matter what though.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I initially disagreed with the Arsenal penalty, because a week earlier Doku kicked AMA in the chest and the VAR team literally said ‘He’s touched the ball’ so was working off that.
It’s a penalty though.
Liverpool, clear penalty imo. He’s slide in, missed the ball and caught the trailing leg. Completely on AWB that.
Maddison has to go and it’s weird that he didn’t.
Shame we’re all talking about the refs again though. Some cracking games again, this weekend.
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some brilliant goals too.
It's an odd thing to think that the VAR ref could be sitting there disagreeing with the on field ref, but not actually referring it because its not clear and obvious enough. It's just a flawed process IMO and i'd rather we have the less than perfect decision making of one man rather than the less than perfect decision making of several, framed in a process that supports the on field ref anyway.
The ‘clear and obvious’ rule is a fvcking nonsense imo and the City non penalty/Arsenal peno at the weekend is the perfect example of that.
Just let the ref have another look sometimes and leave it to him. Done.
They just need to remove the clear and obvious criteria.
If for arguments sake the VAR disagreed with the Lamptey tackle, what's the harm in just saying to the ref "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
I know they want to make sure the game doesn't slow down further, but it's just leading to inconsistencies every week.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
I initially disagreed with the Arsenal penalty, because a week earlier Doku kicked AMA in the chest and the VAR team literally said ‘He’s touched the ball’ so was working off that.
It’s a penalty though.
Liverpool, clear penalty imo. He’s slide in, missed the ball and caught the trailing leg. Completely on AWB that.
Maddison has to go and it’s weird that he didn’t.
Shame we’re all talking about the refs again though. Some cracking games again, this weekend.
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‘Caught the trailing leg’
You probably believe that as well.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 56 seconds ago
They just need to remove the clear and obvious criteria.
If for arguments sake the VAR disagreed with the Lamptey tackle, what's the harm in just saying to the ref "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
I know they want to make sure the game doesn't slow down further, but it's just leading to inconsistencies every week.
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All of this.
i'd rather we have the less than perfect decision making of one man rather than the less than perfect decision making of several, framed in a process that supports the on field ref anyway.
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This makes no sense.
Remember the Endo tackle a while back vs Forest I think. Ref was right on top of it, didn’t give anything, but VAR checked it 14 times apparently.
I mean how is it clear and obvious if you have to check it 14 times?
Completely agree with the above. ‘You may want to have another look’ is all that’s needed.
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 58 minutes ago
They just need to remove the clear and obvious criteria.
If for arguments sake the VAR disagreed with the Lamptey tackle, what's the harm in just saying to the ref "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
I know they want to make sure the game doesn't slow down further, but it's just leading to inconsistencies every week.
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Absolutely. The protocol is all wrong. It doesnt allow for refs to say "actually, I need to see that again as i'm not sure of...."
Nor does it allow the VAR to say, as you suggest, "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
Instead you get VAR doing nothing unless they view it clear and obvious (which is itself subjective) and then when it does call the ref over you know the outcome, which is only notionally giving the ref control.
All these discussions need to be heard, so that it is clear how a decision is made between them. Even if you disagree with it, at least you have the reasoning given.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
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Yep basically in the bloody way. Keeper probably wasn't getting it but he may have.
I'm shocked that TOOR thinks the Liverpool one was a clear penalty. Shocked, I tell you.
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
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Yep basically in the bloody way. Keeper probably wasn't getting it but he may have.
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Yeah O’Neil was going nuts, and he’s had good reason too many times this season, but not with this one imo. If you’re stood in the 6 yard box, you’re interfering with play imo.
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
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Yep basically in the bloody way. Keeper probably wasn't getting it but he may have.
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Going by the laws of the game though, where's the infringement?
Keeper wasn't impeded, he could see the ball fine.
I would tend to say anyone within that close proximity to the keeper is interfering, but I don't think that's what the law says.
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posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
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Fack me you are thick
Jesus knocks the ball past Lamptey, Lamptey takes Jesus out. Penalty. The fact it brushed Lamptey as it went past him is totally irrelevant. He fouled Jesus.
A fair tackle is winning the ball, not getting a brush that doesn't change its direction at all.
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Not sure you've seen the tackle, soft lad
Not sure ive seen the rule that says a tackle is only legitimate is you make a strong contact on the ball.
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The rule makes no mention of touching the ball at all. Strong contact, soft contact. It does say if you trip the opponent you have committed a foul...
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posted on 8/4/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Things are rarely so black and white in football and in life generally.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 40 minutes ago
Wan-Bissaka did not touch Harvey Elliot so the penalty has to be overturned.
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Was very soft IMO, but Bissaka never touched the ball either. Did he impede Elliot?
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Yes
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I thought so as well.
posted on 8/4/24
IMO both the Arsenal and Liverpool ones were correctly given as pens. lampety got the ball but was more of a scrape, before he took out Jesus.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
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Fack me you are thick
Jesus knocks the ball past Lamptey, Lamptey takes Jesus out. Penalty. The fact it brushed Lamptey as it went past him is totally irrelevant. He fouled Jesus.
A fair tackle is winning the ball, not getting a brush that doesn't change its direction at all.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 2 minutes ago
IMO both the Arsenal and Liverpool ones were correctly given as pens. lampety got the ball but was more of a scrape, before he took out Jesus.
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nEtBaLl iS mOrE fOr YoU
posted on 8/4/24
Both the Liverpool and Arsenal penalties were absolute stonewall. Utterly ridiculous to argue against them
posted on 8/4/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
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Fack me you are thick
Jesus knocks the ball past Lamptey, Lamptey takes Jesus out. Penalty. The fact it brushed Lamptey as it went past him is totally irrelevant. He fouled Jesus.
A fair tackle is winning the ball, not getting a brush that doesn't change its direction at all.
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Not sure you've seen the tackle, soft lad
Not sure ive seen the rule that says a tackle is only legitimate is you make a strong contact on the ball.
posted on 8/4/24
I initially disagreed with the Arsenal penalty, because a week earlier Doku kicked AMA in the chest and the VAR team literally said ‘He’s touched the ball’ so was working off that.
It’s a penalty though.
Liverpool, clear penalty imo. He’s slide in, missed the ball and caught the trailing leg. Completely on AWB that.
Maddison has to go and it’s weird that he didn’t.
Shame we’re all talking about the refs again though. Some cracking games again, this weekend.
posted on 8/4/24
The Wolves one is far trickier imo.
I think it’s pretty hard to argue he’s not interfering with play, regardless of the fact the keeper would likely not have saved.
I think if you’re offside in the penalty box it should be offside no matter what though.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I initially disagreed with the Arsenal penalty, because a week earlier Doku kicked AMA in the chest and the VAR team literally said ‘He’s touched the ball’ so was working off that.
It’s a penalty though.
Liverpool, clear penalty imo. He’s slide in, missed the ball and caught the trailing leg. Completely on AWB that.
Maddison has to go and it’s weird that he didn’t.
Shame we’re all talking about the refs again though. Some cracking games again, this weekend.
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some brilliant goals too.
It's an odd thing to think that the VAR ref could be sitting there disagreeing with the on field ref, but not actually referring it because its not clear and obvious enough. It's just a flawed process IMO and i'd rather we have the less than perfect decision making of one man rather than the less than perfect decision making of several, framed in a process that supports the on field ref anyway.
posted on 8/4/24
The ‘clear and obvious’ rule is a fvcking nonsense imo and the City non penalty/Arsenal peno at the weekend is the perfect example of that.
Just let the ref have another look sometimes and leave it to him. Done.
posted on 8/4/24
They just need to remove the clear and obvious criteria.
If for arguments sake the VAR disagreed with the Lamptey tackle, what's the harm in just saying to the ref "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
I know they want to make sure the game doesn't slow down further, but it's just leading to inconsistencies every week.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
I initially disagreed with the Arsenal penalty, because a week earlier Doku kicked AMA in the chest and the VAR team literally said ‘He’s touched the ball’ so was working off that.
It’s a penalty though.
Liverpool, clear penalty imo. He’s slide in, missed the ball and caught the trailing leg. Completely on AWB that.
Maddison has to go and it’s weird that he didn’t.
Shame we’re all talking about the refs again though. Some cracking games again, this weekend.
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‘Caught the trailing leg’
You probably believe that as well.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 56 seconds ago
They just need to remove the clear and obvious criteria.
If for arguments sake the VAR disagreed with the Lamptey tackle, what's the harm in just saying to the ref "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
I know they want to make sure the game doesn't slow down further, but it's just leading to inconsistencies every week.
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All of this.
posted on 8/4/24
i'd rather we have the less than perfect decision making of one man rather than the less than perfect decision making of several, framed in a process that supports the on field ref anyway.
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This makes no sense.
posted on 8/4/24
Remember the Endo tackle a while back vs Forest I think. Ref was right on top of it, didn’t give anything, but VAR checked it 14 times apparently.
I mean how is it clear and obvious if you have to check it 14 times?
Completely agree with the above. ‘You may want to have another look’ is all that’s needed.
posted on 8/4/24
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 58 minutes ago
They just need to remove the clear and obvious criteria.
If for arguments sake the VAR disagreed with the Lamptey tackle, what's the harm in just saying to the ref "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
I know they want to make sure the game doesn't slow down further, but it's just leading to inconsistencies every week.
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Absolutely. The protocol is all wrong. It doesnt allow for refs to say "actually, I need to see that again as i'm not sure of...."
Nor does it allow the VAR to say, as you suggest, "it's debatable on replays, have a look and see what you think?"
Instead you get VAR doing nothing unless they view it clear and obvious (which is itself subjective) and then when it does call the ref over you know the outcome, which is only notionally giving the ref control.
All these discussions need to be heard, so that it is clear how a decision is made between them. Even if you disagree with it, at least you have the reasoning given.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
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Yep basically in the bloody way. Keeper probably wasn't getting it but he may have.
posted on 8/4/24
I'm shocked that TOOR thinks the Liverpool one was a clear penalty. Shocked, I tell you.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
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Yep basically in the bloody way. Keeper probably wasn't getting it but he may have.
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Yeah O’Neil was going nuts, and he’s had good reason too many times this season, but not with this one imo. If you’re stood in the 6 yard box, you’re interfering with play imo.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
Arsenal and Liverpool ones were both clear penalties.
Didn't see the Madisson one and really don't understand the fuss around the Wolves one. He's standing offside in front of the keeper. Clear offside.
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Yep basically in the bloody way. Keeper probably wasn't getting it but he may have.
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Going by the laws of the game though, where's the infringement?
Keeper wasn't impeded, he could see the ball fine.
I would tend to say anyone within that close proximity to the keeper is interfering, but I don't think that's what the law says.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Any contact? I said taking out the opponent not a slight touch.
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Most slide tackles will take the player out as a consequence, so long as you get the ball first then its fair.
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Not if the slide tackle doesn't alter the direction or pace of the ball and the player being tackled is getting the ball easily if he wasnt impeded. That is a foul all day long.
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Hilarious
Like i say, contact on teh ball first is a tackle. As long as it is not excessive force and all that then if the player is taken out as a consequence then so be it. It's a contact sport and you will see multiple times a game tackles that get the ball but also take the man. How much you get the ball is not in the rules and never has been.
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No but:
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Is in the rules. Doesn't say if you get a feint touch on the ball you can trip up the opponent.
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He took the player in the action of tackling and got the ball first.
If you are promoting any tackle that takes the player out is a foul then maybe football aint for you. I suggest netball may be your thing. Almost no contact although those girls can be quite vicious, so may be still a bit tough for you.
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Fack me you are thick
Jesus knocks the ball past Lamptey, Lamptey takes Jesus out. Penalty. The fact it brushed Lamptey as it went past him is totally irrelevant. He fouled Jesus.
A fair tackle is winning the ball, not getting a brush that doesn't change its direction at all.
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Not sure you've seen the tackle, soft lad
Not sure ive seen the rule that says a tackle is only legitimate is you make a strong contact on the ball.
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The rule makes no mention of touching the ball at all. Strong contact, soft contact. It does say if you trip the opponent you have committed a foul...
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