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Israel strikes Iran directly

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posted on 19/4/24

You’ve got to be a bit of a moron to side with Isreal because some people in suits say ‘They’re our allies’ and so decide that is that imo.

posted on 19/4/24

I mean our foreign policy is demonstrably appalling

posted on 19/4/24

How do you feel about your native land being team Israel? Are you ashamed?

Go and move to Iran if that's how you feel. If living in a land of no democracy
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"If you don't agree with everything we do and say, then go move to a land with no democracy!"

-SE85 logic.

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
First I will start off by saying I am on neither side of this equation. I have no love for Israel or Iran.

Israel have been abhorrent in their actions in the region throughout my lifetime and Iran have been stirring the $hit in the middle east since well before Gerard Butler put on his loin cloth.

This thread has thrown up some right basket cases and I don't even think Peks has arrived yet.

We have the OP, of course and this is not his first or second WW3 article. Then we have that pair of match going numbnuts who know even less about world events than they do about football.

We then have Arab who's go to reply to anyone who has a different opinion to him is to call them a racist.

Then we have Hoody who wonders why anyone still bothers with RDD and then on his very next post bothers with RDD.

Then we have a masterful narrative from my buddy RR explaining RDD's modus operandi (which is exactly why I filter every single reincarnation of RDD)

And I have only got to page four. I now see Mamba has turned up. the one person on this site who makes Barry look like a serious poster.

Maybe I will go full circle and say Robbsie is right WW3 is on it's way.
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Yawn.

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 41 minutes ago

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 33 seconds ago
Why is it antagonistic when Islam says that when everyone else says it and doesn't get labelled antagonistic?
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Well because they weren't all created at the same time were they genius?
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So the earlier a religion existed the more right it has to claim to be the only word of God?

posted on 19/4/24

If one religion is set up over 1000 years later, and they happen to live close by to each other, and start saying this is the actual final word of god then it's going to upset folk isn't it?
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In that case, only Hinduism is the true word of god because Hinduism existed for a long time before any other religion. These other religions are upsetting Hinduism by pretending to be the actual word of god.

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
It puzzles me that ostensibly the same person has written:

"the situation is a lot more complex than people are claiming it to be"

...and avowed, among other things, to be "Team Israel"

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Israel are our allies. The US and the UK along with a hell of lot more countries are standing with them.

In fact the entire European Union, UK, US, Canada, and many more countries don't recognise Palestine as a country.

But nevermind as a few people on 606 know better than all the biggest DEMOCRACIES on earth. πŸ˜‚
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Do you think what you've said here is consistent with recognising that the politics and ethics of this conflict are complex?

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 41 minutes ago

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson (U1282)
posted 33 seconds ago
Why is it antagonistic when Islam says that when everyone else says it and doesn't get labelled antagonistic?
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Well because they weren't all created at the same time were they genius?
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So the earlier a religion existed the more right it has to claim to be the only word of God?
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No.

He is saying, expect grief if you go out and dismiss a 1500 year old religion as obsolete

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
It puzzles me that ostensibly the same person has written:

"the situation is a lot more complex than people are claiming it to be"

...and avowed, among other things, to be "Team Israel"

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Israel are our allies. The US and the UK along with a hell of lot more countries are standing with them.

In fact the entire European Union, UK, US, Canada, and many more countries don't recognise Palestine as a country.

But nevermind as a few people on 606 know better than all the biggest DEMOCRACIES on earth. πŸ˜‚
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Do you think what you've said here is consistent with recognising that the politics and ethics of this conflict are complex?
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What does the Athletic have to say on the matter RR ?

posted on 19/4/24

Christianity itself was created went there were other religions prevalent in the region, and it was worse as the other religions weren't even monotheistic.

They started telling everyone there was only one god and that all their gods were fake gods. That was antagonistic.

posted on 19/4/24

Your solution seems to be the Jews give up the West Bank which would include Jerusalem. That would then leave the Jewish people without it's natural holy land and the Muslims get to keep all three of theirs.
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The plan was to share Jerusalem for a set period of time. If only Israel wanted peace that would have happened. They're still sharing Jerusalem to some extent.

posted on 19/4/24

Hey SE85, why don’t you watch this video and then see who the original inhabitants are of Palestine.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyvpCMBtTst/?igsh=MWNreGV5NDUyZnltdw==

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
I mean our foreign policy is demonstrably appalling
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And of course the foreign policy, or in fact any policy, of Iran is a shining example to the rest of the world. πŸ™ƒ

It's not just because they are our allies. They believe in democracy and a lot of other things we believe in the west. LGBTQ rights for example are far more developed in Israel than any other part of the Middle East. And what's more important than how somebody identifies. Modern day slavery another thing. A lot less common in Israel than their neighbouring countries.

posted on 19/4/24

Also going by SE85’s warped logic, why don’t the Americans give back the country to the natives?

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 46 minutes ago
Yeah, because they're stoopid mostly.

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They label the same at you. And you feed them with the ammo.
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Doesn't take because I'm not actually stoopid. You call me stoopid all the time and see yourself as not stoopid when the truth is the polar opposite, so anyone can say what they want, doesn't change the facts.

posted on 19/4/24

And why does Israel ban DNA testing of its people if they’re the so called inhabitants of the Palestinian land today? Could it be the population is made up of converts and descendants of Ashkenazi Jews which would show they’re not the original people?

posted on 19/4/24

General wesly clark 7 countries in 5 years

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
I mean our foreign policy is demonstrably appalling
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And of course the foreign policy, or in fact any policy, of Iran is a shining example to the rest of the world. πŸ™ƒ

It's not just because they are our allies. They believe in democracy and a lot of other things we believe in the west. LGBTQ rights for example are far more developed in Israel than any other part of the Middle East. And what's more important than how somebody identifies. Modern day slavery another thing. A lot less common in Israel than their neighbouring countries.
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So, Team Israel it is, then, not 'it's complex'?

'It's complex' would involve maybe not just picking a side and supporting it, but (as a basic first step) balancing the liberal democratic elements of Israeli society (which incidentally are being eroded by the current, far-right coalition government) alongside the mass slaughter of civilians through indiscriminate bombing, sniping, systematic destruction of hospitals, and preventing access to food. There's a position one can take that opposes this without endorsing Iran's brutal theocracy.

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 22 seconds ago
Also going by SE85’s warped logic, why don’t the Americans give back the country to the natives?
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I don't particularly care if they did. Obviously not a realistic proposition in the slightest and you have resorted to quite a ridiculous stretch to try win a debate there which is incredibly transparent.

This isn't about what people have done in the past or what they haven't. Every nation has sins to answer none more so than what our own Empire did to the world.

I won't back a terrorist state over one of our allies. If you want to do that then go ahead. It's a free world and you're entitled to your view however much I disagree with it.


posted on 19/4/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 22 seconds ago
Also going by SE85’s warped logic, why don’t the Americans give back the country to the natives?
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I don't particularly care if they did. Obviously not a realistic proposition in the slightest and you have resorted to quite a ridiculous stretch to try win a debate there which is incredibly transparent.

This isn't about what people have done in the past or what they haven't. Every nation has sins to answer none more so than what our own Empire did to the world.

I won't back a terrorist state over one of our allies. If you want to do that then go ahead. It's a free world and you're entitled to your view however much I disagree with it.



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You’ve been the terrorist sympathiser in this thread pal, not me. You’ve been shown up to a racist and clueless at history.

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by LAMCAM 🧿Liverpool🧿 (U18537)
posted 7 minutes ago
Netanyahu the maniac is draging us to WW3 and I don't see any difference between him and Hitler
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3 people need to leave this earth

Putin
Trump
Netanayu
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Nail

Head

Hit

.... and they can take Farage et al with them

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
I mean our foreign policy is demonstrably appalling
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And of course the foreign policy, or in fact any policy, of Iran is a shining example to the rest of the world. πŸ™ƒ

It's not just because they are our allies. They believe in democracy and a lot of other things we believe in the west. LGBTQ rights for example are far more developed in Israel than any other part of the Middle East. And what's more important than how somebody identifies. Modern day slavery another thing. A lot less common in Israel than their neighbouring countries.
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But why is Iran acting like that? Because they want to fack up their own region?

Iran is once bitten twice shy. The west meddled in their affairs for ages and the USA even helped to remove a democratic government in Iran and helped put the Ayatollah regime in power because it served their interests at the time.

Iran have had enough of Western interference and influence in the region and that's why they behave like they do. They have kicked out our oil people and our banking system etc. so we sorround them, keep provoking them and others in the region, when they react we call them terrorists and use our media to tell the people that we are the good guys and the Arabs are the bad guys when the truth is we just want to get our grubby hands on their wealth.

Why don't you learn a thing or two and then come back.

posted on 19/4/24

don't particularly care if they did. Obviously not a realistic proposition
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Not as unrealistic as suggesting the west take in the Palestinians because we gave their land to Israel.

posted on 19/4/24

I wonder if SE85 was clued up on the Americans backing Iran during the war against Iraq in the 80’s because it benefited them to have a destabilised Iraq instead of a destabilised Iran.

But they’re a democracy apparently, just like Israel is supposedly.

posted on 19/4/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
I mean our foreign policy is demonstrably appalling
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And of course the foreign policy, or in fact any policy, of Iran is a shining example to the rest of the world. πŸ™ƒ

It's not just because they are our allies. They believe in democracy and a lot of other things we believe in the west. LGBTQ rights for example are far more developed in Israel than any other part of the Middle East. And what's more important than how somebody identifies. Modern day slavery another thing. A lot less common in Israel than their neighbouring countries.
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Just wow

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