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posted on 20/4/24

Any step to reduce the games in a season is fine by me. I despise the new CL format for a few reasons but the extra games is one of them.

posted on 20/4/24

One step closer to just handing the trophy to Man Cheaty 👍

posted on 20/4/24

I don't really see the arguments that people keep putting forward.

Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing seem really bizarre because getting a draw in a game and going through on penalties seems far more likely than getting a draw and then a win against a much stronger team.

Clubs will still get a windfall if they get drawn away to a very big team, its just luck of the draw.

posted on 20/4/24

I’ve thought about the cup and the draws and some changes.

It would interesting if a club from a lower division had the choice of playing the tie at home (for the obvious advantage) or away (for the potential payday)

If both teams are in the same division then the tie is played as drawn

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 20/4/24

Well how many teams get to play in European competition out of the whole of the football pyramid? It's only a very small minority, who tend to be a lot bigger and richer anyway, and we're essentially catering to them while dismissing the vast majority of smaller clubs.

The bigger clubs should have to take the rough with the smooth. Yes there is more fixture congestion for them, but they are wealthier and have bigger squads to help them cope. Maybe the idea is it should encourage them to win in these FA cup ties so they don't get a replay, if it's a problem.

Why not just take away cup replays between PL clubs, if they want to start somewhere? A few of the replays were between PL clubs - Everton vs Palace, Chelsea vs Villa, Wolves vs Brentford.

posted on 20/4/24

The idea is moronic and shows a sign of the times in modern football, more so in the English premier league. A committee deciding the rules of the oldest football competition consisting of the top table only is exactly what people were complaining about for the super league.


Hypocrisy at its highest order. Some of you don’t support your local club and it shows.

posted on 20/4/24

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I don't really see the arguments that people keep putting forward.

Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing seem really bizarre because getting a draw in a game and going through on penalties seems far more likely than getting a draw and then a win against a much stronger team.

Clubs will still get a windfall if they get drawn away to a very big team, its just luck of the draw.
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It’s not rocket science.

If you take away replays, you take away the potential for a smaller club with a home draw to earn a replay, which is then a pay day.

And who does this change benefit?

The big clubs. Certainly not non league clubs.

posted on 20/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I don't really see the arguments that people keep putting forward.

Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing seem really bizarre because getting a draw in a game and going through on penalties seems far more likely than getting a draw and then a win against a much stronger team.

Clubs will still get a windfall if they get drawn away to a very big team, its just luck of the draw.
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It’s not rocket science.

If you take away replays, you take away the potential for a smaller club with a home draw to earn a replay, which is then a pay day.

And who does this change benefit?

The big clubs. Certainly not non league clubs.
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Like someone else said, maybe the lower league team should get the choice of home or away.

posted on 20/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I don't really see the arguments that people keep putting forward.

Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing seem really bizarre because getting a draw in a game and going through on penalties seems far more likely than getting a draw and then a win against a much stronger team.

Clubs will still get a windfall if they get drawn away to a very big team, its just luck of the draw.
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It’s not rocket science.

If you take away replays, you take away the potential for a smaller club with a home draw to earn a replay, which is then a pay day.

And who does this change benefit?

The big clubs. Certainly not non league clubs.
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Yes, in the very rare scenario. If that's the concern then should we remove the random draw so we can ensure that these clubs get a big team? Or why don't we go back to the days of infinite replays until there is a winner? That would get lower league clubs more money too.

There are better ways to address the finances of clubs.

So like I said, there isn't really much of an argument. Glad you agree it isn't rocket science.

posted on 20/4/24

The argument of fewer games might be valid if the clubs wanting replays scrapped didnt fly thousands of miles after the seadon ends to play games in America etc…

posted on 20/4/24

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I don't really see the arguments that people keep putting forward.

Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing seem really bizarre because getting a draw in a game and going through on penalties seems far more likely than getting a draw and then a win against a much stronger team.

Clubs will still get a windfall if they get drawn away to a very big team, its just luck of the draw.
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It’s not rocket science.

If you take away replays, you take away the potential for a smaller club with a home draw to earn a replay, which is then a pay day.

And who does this change benefit?

The big clubs. Certainly not non league clubs.
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Yes, in the very rare scenario. If that's the concern then should we remove the random draw so we can ensure that these clubs get a big team? Or why don't we go back to the days of infinite replays until there is a winner? That would get lower league clubs more money too.

There are better ways to address the finances of clubs.

So like I said, there isn't really much of an argument. Glad you agree it isn't rocket science.
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Very rare?

You’re talking out of your backside.

I suggest you read some of the hundreds of complaints by non league clubs about this issue and educate yourself.

Or, just continue to watch football TV and leave non league football to the people who actually leave there house to watch a game.

posted on 20/4/24

comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
The argument of fewer games might be valid if the clubs wanting replays scrapped didnt fly thousands of miles after the seadon ends to play games in America etc…
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Exactly.

Perhaps idiots like Welshpool can tell us what about the current system is a problem?

Seems to me the only clubs who think it’s a problem are the ones who don’t have to worry about money coming in.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 20/4/24

Some weird positions here.

- 'let's do what we've always done' - ooo so progressive
- 'it's not about the money' - only it turns out, it really is.
- nobody mentioning player welfare - at least that's consistent with UEFA, FIFA, EPL, ESL yadda
- Live TV has a bigger £ influence than a big crowd
- The biggest clubs will simply give even less of a fack about the FA cup like the carabou cup.

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posted on 20/4/24

Yes, let’s all bow down to the bigger clubs. We haven’t done that enough already.

Maybe if we bow down to them a little more, they’ll start respecting the competition a bit more.

What a load of sheite.

If they care so much about the players then they can take it up with the organisers of the competitions that have added more fixtures.

posted on 21/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I don't really see the arguments that people keep putting forward.

Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing seem really bizarre because getting a draw in a game and going through on penalties seems far more likely than getting a draw and then a win against a much stronger team.

Clubs will still get a windfall if they get drawn away to a very big team, its just luck of the draw.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not rocket science.

If you take away replays, you take away the potential for a smaller club with a home draw to earn a replay, which is then a pay day.

And who does this change benefit?

The big clubs. Certainly not non league clubs.
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Yes, in the very rare scenario. If that's the concern then should we remove the random draw so we can ensure that these clubs get a big team? Or why don't we go back to the days of infinite replays until there is a winner? That would get lower league clubs more money too.

There are better ways to address the finances of clubs.

So like I said, there isn't really much of an argument. Glad you agree it isn't rocket science.
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Very rare?

You’re talking out of your backside.

I suggest you read some of the hundreds of complaints by non league clubs about this issue and educate yourself.

Or, just continue to watch football TV and leave non league football to the people who actually leave there house to watch a game.
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Ok, please list all the examples of a non-leagie team getting to the third round, getting a draw at home to a massive club (let's just say a PL team for ease), getting a draw in that game in order to get a replay.

It is massively rare.

posted on 21/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Son Of Gunnersaurus a.k.a SoG (U1310)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
The argument of fewer games might be valid if the clubs wanting replays scrapped didnt fly thousands of miles after the seadon ends to play games in America etc…
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Exactly.

Perhaps idiots like Welshpool can tell us what about the current system is a problem?

Seems to me the only clubs who think it’s a problem are the ones who don’t have to worry about money coming in.
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Oh look, Winston can't formulate a convincing argument so he jumps straight to personal insults. True to type.

His other trademarks are not admitting he is wrong (already wrong on claiming that non-league teams getting replays against PL clubs is not rare) and being desperate to get the last word in because he gets so little attention in his real life.

I bet both those happen pretty soon.

posted on 21/4/24

Oh look, Welshpool gives up on the topic because he’s an uneducated moron.

posted on 21/4/24

Oh and who said this is only about non league clubs getting replays away at PL clubs?

Not me.

You buffoon.

posted on 21/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
Oh and who said this is only about non league clubs getting replays away at PL clubs?

Not me.

You buffoon.
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You're very first contribution to this thread was literally responding directly to my comment about giant-killings.

Dishonest Winnie strikes again. Three out of three on Winnie bingo.

Anyway, I've got better things to do with my Sunday than to highlight your impotent intelligence so I'll leave you to desperately get the last word in.

posted on 21/4/24

And my reply is pointing out that you’ve totally missed the point, because you think this is just about the rare occasion when non league clubs draw PL clubs.

You’ve not bothered to read the objections that pretty much the entire EPL and non league pyramid have raised.

You’re not educated enough to know how the share of ticket sales in cup competitions benefits clubs struggling to survive.

You haven’t even considered that a club from step 3 would benefit immensely from a game away against step 1.

You’re so fixated on your love of football as a TV programme, you just can’t comprehend what goes on in the real world, in local communities.

And we all know you’re incapable of listening and understanding, not to mention ever admitting you’re wrong.

Go away and have a good cry as usual. It’s all Winston’s fault that you’re an uneducated idiot.

posted on 21/4/24

Oh and you want to talk about lies?

There was no mention of non league vs PL sides in any comment you referred to when you called it ‘rare’.

You’ve been caught out and you can’t admit it, as per usual.

posted on 21/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 hours, 36 minutes ago
Oh and you want to talk about lies?

There was no mention of non league vs PL sides in any comment you referred to when you called it ‘rare’.

You’ve been caught out and you can’t admit it, as per usual.
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"There was no mention of non league vs PL sides in any comment you referred to when you called it ‘rare’."

Actually, I think you will find that the comment I referred to when I called it rare was your comment, in which you literally and explicitly mentioned non-league sides.

So let's talk about lies, dishonest Winnie.

Here is the evidence.

"The big clubs. Certainly not non league clubs.
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Yes, in the very rare scenario"

And here it happens a second time.

"Or, just continue to watch football TV and leave non league football to the people who actually leave there house to watch a game.
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Ok, please list all the examples of a non-leagie team getting to the third round, getting a draw at home to a massive club (let's just say a PL team for ease), getting a draw in that game in order to get a replay."

posted on 21/4/24

Still carrying on the lies, are you?

“ Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing”

This is what you said.

Small teams progressing.

Who said anything about non league vs the PL?

The rule changes are from the first round proper. They will have a big effect on clubs who draw teams from the league above, two league above etc. - let alone those big draws.

Read my post above. Read the comments from the EFL and literally hundreds of non league clubs.

Maybe, just maybe, you’ll accept you’ve made a mistake here.

posted on 21/4/24

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Still carrying on the lies, are you?

“ Talk about giant-killings and smaller teams progressing”

This is what you said.

Small teams progressing.

Who said anything about non league vs the PL?

The rule changes are from the first round proper. They will have a big effect on clubs who draw teams from the league above, two league above etc. - let alone those big draws.

Read my post above. Read the comments from the EFL and literally hundreds of non league clubs.

Maybe, just maybe, you’ll accept you’ve made a mistake here.
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"Who said anything about non league"

You did. Quite literally and explicitly twice. In direct response to my original comment about giant killings.

I've made no mistakes. You just messed up (again) then lied to try to save face. Imagine trying to belittle someone else's (far superior) education when doing this.

Dishonest Winnie. Lies and gets abusive every time he messes up.

posted on 21/4/24

Vs the PL?

So you’d rather leave off part of the sentence to be deceitful instead of admitting you were wrong?

Wow.

You’re a mess.

Face it. You entered a discussion that is way above your level of knowledge, and now you look like a complete berk.

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