depends possibly on what team offer Emery the gig !
I can see Liverpool using someone cheap they ca get rid off in a season to make way for Alonso and means Alonso doesnt have to directly follow Klopp
I saw a crazy rumour that Liverpool would bring in Jose for one season. Imagine the scenes.
"because why not? "
Where do I start...........
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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posted 3 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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This used to make sense but now when you take into account the amount of money in the PL eats all the other top leagues for breakfast and craps them out I just can't see how a business which has such huge cashflow will just go away.
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posted 5 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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He's the Feyernoord manager not PSV.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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He's the Feyernoord manager not PSV.
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Ah yes.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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This used to make sense but now when you take into account the amount of money in the PL eats all the other top leagues for breakfast and craps them out I just can't see how a business which has such huge cashflow will just go away.
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And the PL took all of the top coaches, who are nearing the end of their peak or leaving.
Gaz Southgate to run the show
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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posted 2 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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I think thats what Liverpool will look for... a stop gap before appointing or tyring to appoint Alonso
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posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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I think thats what Liverpool will look for... a stop gap before appointing or tyring to appoint Alonso
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Bold move, if Alonso can keep up his clubs form Madrid will come calling.
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posted 37 seconds ago
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posted 18 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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I think thats what Liverpool will look for... a stop gap before appointing or tyring to appoint Alonso
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Bold move, if Alonso can keep up his clubs form Madrid will come calling.
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Not overly, if they dont get them they can then target another top manager who in turn doesnt need to follow after Klopp which wont be easy at all.
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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posted 38 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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It's impossible to tell whether it will go well or not. It seems Slot has a similar philosophy to Klopp so maybe a smoother transition than someone else who would make massive changes.
As you lot found, it is incredibly difficult to replace such a top manager with another top manager.
Moyes was always the scapegoat, but the appointments following that have not worked out well really. Even appointing big names didn't work.
We are in the same position now. Whoever takes the job will most likely only be in it for 12-18 months. It is the guy after that that we need to get right.
As such, I think we should give O'Neil a go. It would either be a masterstroke or the fall guy needed. I think he has a big future in the game and certainly will manage England one day. Was Alonso good enough when he took over Leverkusen?
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Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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no matter how much the celtic fans beg you to take him off their hands !
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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no matter how much the celtic fans beg you to take him off their hands !
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Never wanted him in the first place. Saw enough of him at Reading who were the local team when i lived there for a bit. You could always tell it was all about him and had no plan b, c or otherwise.
If there was a picture of a narcissist in the dictionary, it would be him.
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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no matter how much the celtic fans beg you to take him off their hands !
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Never wanted him in the first place. Saw enough of him at Reading who were the local team when i lived there for a bit. You could always tell it was all about him and had no plan b, c or otherwise.
If there was a picture of a narcissist in the dictionary, it would be him.
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he literally has a painted portrait of himself in his living room, a huge painting, tries to claim a fan did it for him. ok Brenda
There's a real shortage of top quality coaches in the game atm.
Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti, Simeone and maybe Flick are the only ones who you would look at say, they're a safe bet for success.
The others have either been successful at clubs that dominate their respective domestic leagues anyway and they have somewhat failed on the European stage....or they are just up-and-coming managers and haven't really been tested at the highest level.
Alonso, Amorim, Inzaghi & Slot have at least won titles in their league with teams that weren't necessarily the dominant team. Considering what he took over from and the current situation at Barca, I'd like to include Xavi there...but then we know how the Barca ethos can aid in things over there
One thing with Man Utd is that its not as if you have players at their absolute peak which you need to take advantage of immediately or lose that chance. YOu need a rebuild and have time on your hands to do so and the current better players will be even better and the ones you want gone will be gone.
If i were United, this is the sort of timeframe I would be targetting, with a new man starting asap, building something to begin to peak in 2 or 3 years time, built around the likes of Mainoo & Hojlund & Garnacho and the rest of them can feck off.
You sort of want to do what Chelsea have done but in a more gradual and structured way
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
One thing with Man Utd is that its not as if you have players at their absolute peak which you need to take advantage of immediately or lose that chance. YOu need a rebuild and have time on your hands to do so and the current better players will be even better and the ones you want gone will be gone.
If i were United, this is the sort of timeframe I would be targetting, with a new man starting asap, building something to begin to peak in 2 or 3 years time, built around the likes of Mainoo & Hojlund & Garnacho and the rest of them can feck off.
You sort of want to do what Chelsea have done but in a more gradual and structured way
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Agree with this, but it's not all about the manager. We haven't ever had the right structure in place to compete. Hence why Jim has been ringing the changes right from the off, such as bringing in the City CEO, getting Ashworth from Newcastle etc... He knows getting the structure right is fundamental to success further down line.
England have never produced a winning manager for the league of their own country (the PL).
And their greatest ever player has never won a trophy.
Quite odd.
Imagine a Spanish manager having never won La Liga, as well as Ramos or Xavi/Iniesta never winning a trophy in their career.
Pretty incredible.
Rooney must of won summink
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posted on 24/4/24
depends possibly on what team offer Emery the gig !
I can see Liverpool using someone cheap they ca get rid off in a season to make way for Alonso and means Alonso doesnt have to directly follow Klopp
posted on 24/4/24
I saw a crazy rumour that Liverpool would bring in Jose for one season. Imagine the scenes.
posted on 24/4/24
"because why not? "
Where do I start...........
posted on 24/4/24
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This used to make sense but now when you take into account the amount of money in the PL eats all the other top leagues for breakfast and craps them out I just can't see how a business which has such huge cashflow will just go away.
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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He's the Feyernoord manager not PSV.
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
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He's the Feyernoord manager not PSV.
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Ah yes.
posted on 24/4/24
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
I read Liverpool are after the PSV manager, and are even talking to Gary O'Neil.
I expect the PL will take it's turn out of the spotlight, in terms of being Europe's elite, as they say, football is cyclical and the PL hasn't been it's best this season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This used to make sense but now when you take into account the amount of money in the PL eats all the other top leagues for breakfast and craps them out I just can't see how a business which has such huge cashflow will just go away.
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And the PL took all of the top coaches, who are nearing the end of their peak or leaving.
posted on 24/4/24
Gaz Southgate to run the show
posted on 24/4/24
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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I think thats what Liverpool will look for... a stop gap before appointing or tyring to appoint Alonso
posted on 24/4/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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I think thats what Liverpool will look for... a stop gap before appointing or tyring to appoint Alonso
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Bold move, if Alonso can keep up his clubs form Madrid will come calling.
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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I think thats what Liverpool will look for... a stop gap before appointing or tyring to appoint Alonso
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Bold move, if Alonso can keep up his clubs form Madrid will come calling.
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Not overly, if they dont get them they can then target another top manager who in turn doesnt need to follow after Klopp which wont be easy at all.
posted on 24/4/24
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 38 minutes ago
Arne Slot is going to have to perform miracles at Liverpool to be deemed a success. Following Klopp is an unenviable job for anyone and there's a very good chance they could lose Salah this summer too.
Can't see this one ending well. It's almost a thankless task really.
City when they have to replace Pep know it's only one direction from there too. How do you even replace him?
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It's impossible to tell whether it will go well or not. It seems Slot has a similar philosophy to Klopp so maybe a smoother transition than someone else who would make massive changes.
posted on 24/4/24
As you lot found, it is incredibly difficult to replace such a top manager with another top manager.
Moyes was always the scapegoat, but the appointments following that have not worked out well really. Even appointing big names didn't work.
We are in the same position now. Whoever takes the job will most likely only be in it for 12-18 months. It is the guy after that that we need to get right.
As such, I think we should give O'Neil a go. It would either be a masterstroke or the fall guy needed. I think he has a big future in the game and certainly will manage England one day. Was Alonso good enough when he took over Leverkusen?
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
posted on 24/4/24
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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no matter how much the celtic fans beg you to take him off their hands !
posted on 24/4/24
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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no matter how much the celtic fans beg you to take him off their hands !
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Never wanted him in the first place. Saw enough of him at Reading who were the local team when i lived there for a bit. You could always tell it was all about him and had no plan b, c or otherwise.
If there was a picture of a narcissist in the dictionary, it would be him.
posted on 24/4/24
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posted 8 minutes ago
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely we only need to look at Leicester and Ranieri to see what could happen when Klopp leaves.
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We are not getting Rodgers back!! EVER!
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no matter how much the celtic fans beg you to take him off their hands !
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Never wanted him in the first place. Saw enough of him at Reading who were the local team when i lived there for a bit. You could always tell it was all about him and had no plan b, c or otherwise.
If there was a picture of a narcissist in the dictionary, it would be him.
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he literally has a painted portrait of himself in his living room, a huge painting, tries to claim a fan did it for him. ok Brenda
posted on 24/4/24
There's a real shortage of top quality coaches in the game atm.
Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti, Simeone and maybe Flick are the only ones who you would look at say, they're a safe bet for success.
The others have either been successful at clubs that dominate their respective domestic leagues anyway and they have somewhat failed on the European stage....or they are just up-and-coming managers and haven't really been tested at the highest level.
Alonso, Amorim, Inzaghi & Slot have at least won titles in their league with teams that weren't necessarily the dominant team. Considering what he took over from and the current situation at Barca, I'd like to include Xavi there...but then we know how the Barca ethos can aid in things over there
posted on 24/4/24
One thing with Man Utd is that its not as if you have players at their absolute peak which you need to take advantage of immediately or lose that chance. YOu need a rebuild and have time on your hands to do so and the current better players will be even better and the ones you want gone will be gone.
If i were United, this is the sort of timeframe I would be targetting, with a new man starting asap, building something to begin to peak in 2 or 3 years time, built around the likes of Mainoo & Hojlund & Garnacho and the rest of them can feck off.
You sort of want to do what Chelsea have done but in a more gradual and structured way
posted on 24/4/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
One thing with Man Utd is that its not as if you have players at their absolute peak which you need to take advantage of immediately or lose that chance. YOu need a rebuild and have time on your hands to do so and the current better players will be even better and the ones you want gone will be gone.
If i were United, this is the sort of timeframe I would be targetting, with a new man starting asap, building something to begin to peak in 2 or 3 years time, built around the likes of Mainoo & Hojlund & Garnacho and the rest of them can feck off.
You sort of want to do what Chelsea have done but in a more gradual and structured way
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Agree with this, but it's not all about the manager. We haven't ever had the right structure in place to compete. Hence why Jim has been ringing the changes right from the off, such as bringing in the City CEO, getting Ashworth from Newcastle etc... He knows getting the structure right is fundamental to success further down line.
posted on 24/4/24
England have never produced a winning manager for the league of their own country (the PL).
And their greatest ever player has never won a trophy.
Quite odd.
Imagine a Spanish manager having never won La Liga, as well as Ramos or Xavi/Iniesta never winning a trophy in their career.
Pretty incredible.
posted on 24/4/24
Rooney must of won summink
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