comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 4 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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Bit like saying what's the point of having a wash, I'm only going to get dirty again. đ
What does it matter who gets the job next if the current guy isn't getting it right? You're clinging on to something that doesn't exist surely?
I'd personally rather have Tuchel than ETH. Ruben Amorim would be an interesting appointment too. De Zerbi with a good budget could be good too. He's had Brighton playing far better football than we play afterall.
I really don't get the logic of saying we can't replace ETH because we don't know how the next guy will do. That makes no sense to me.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Ofcourse there are rumours that ange from spurs might also be taking over here. Between him and sir Gareth the future will be bright…
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Yeah, good luck with that.
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Haven't seen any of these links myself..... however you're incredibly naive if you don't think he'd leave Spurs for the United job. He'd drop you in a heartbeat if he got an offer.
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I don't think he would leave, no. He has the perfect structure to build at Spurs. You're only getting started and likely need a safe pair of hands for the first few years to stabilise the club. Also, have you been watching what's going on at Spurs? The wheels are coming off so as things stand, no one is going to come in for Ange.
Wouldn’t touch De Zerbi with a barge pole, his suicide football wouldn’t work with this group of players, we’d get even bigger hammerings
"What does it matter who gets the job next if the current guy isn't getting it right? You're clinging on to something that doesn't exist surely?"
Well let's give it to Giggs then, seeing as ETH has failed, yeah?
Surely, if ETH were sacked, it wouldn't be a punishment, it would be to bring in a better manager?
ETH has had 2 seasons. 1 good and 1 bad, but there are a number of things outside his control thag have contributed to the bad season.
I think the injuries and lack of top coaches available could save him, it’s already saved him the sack this season.
The club’s main priority is going to be recruitment this summer, if Ten Hag is on board with their plans and other options aren’t then we may just give him his final season for that reason alone.
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
ETH has stated that he does not have the players to play the same way his Ajax team did.
Well, he doesn’t have the players to play 4-2-3-1 either but he keeps persisting with it.
He has to go as he has been unable to field a team that can stop other teams walking through our midfield and having twenty shots at goal each game.
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Pretty much where I am. Repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome gets you the sack.
Fans would give him the benefit of the doubt of playing more conservatively with all our injuries. He's refused to do this and continued the 'we attack then you attack' policy.
Time to go.
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And be replaced by who?
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Southgate or ange is who Jim wants
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 39 seconds ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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I think we considered it good because we were much better than the season before and it seemed we were heading somewhere. I know it was a low bar from which to improve from.
The best case you can make for Ten Hag is that you could have Gareth Southgate instead.
There were glimpses of good football. The win against Spurs. The draw at Stamford Bridge. The Barcelona ties. The first half at home to City. It wasn't consistent, but it gave reason to think ETH was building something: that there were new tactical principles he was teaching us, but which our players could only execute for short periods.
I realise now that I was wrong to assume the team would continue to assimilate these ideas and kick on this season.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 14 minutes ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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You aren’t being harsh, I thought he was very fortunate in getting third, in part due to direct rivals being poor. The cup runs have been his only saving grace really
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
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Your reason for keeping him is because we might get someone worse if seems. That's a nonsense reason to keep an underperforming manager.
If the next guy does come in and fail it will be hugely disappointing but it won't be any different to keeping
ETH.
Your argument only works if ETH is going to become an amazing coach and start getting 75% of his decisions right. He won't.
So what have we got to lose honestly? Absolutely nothing.
It's time to spin the dice again I'm afraid. Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already won a CL trophy and shown he can at least set up a team so they aren't getting pumped with 30 shots against every week.
I think you're seeing that Carabao Cup from last season and in your mind it's like the PL or CL title. It isn't. We got the easiest pathway to that league cup win known to man but sadly ita hoodwinked a lot of people into thinking we've got a world class manager. We haven't.
Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already
—
Fack that
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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3rd and 2 domestic cup finals is a good season post SAF
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
There were glimpses of good football. The win against Spurs. The draw at Stamford Bridge. The Barcelona ties. The first half at home to City. It wasn't consistent, but it gave reason to think ETH was building something: that there were new tactical principles he was teaching us, but which our players could only execute for short periods.
I realise now that I was wrong to assume the team would continue to assimilate these ideas and kick on this season.
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Do you think they might have had we not suffered such horrendous injuries ?
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 14 minutes ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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You aren’t being harsh, I thought he was very fortunate in getting third, in part due to direct rivals being poor. The cup runs have been his only saving grace really
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That's like saying Arsenal, Villa and Spurs are only above us because we have been poor.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
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Your reason for keeping him is because we might get someone worse if seems. That's a nonsense reason to keep an underperforming manager.
If the next guy does come in and fail it will be hugely disappointing but it won't be any different to keeping
ETH.
Your argument only works if ETH is going to become an amazing coach and start getting 75% of his decisions right. He won't.
So what have we got to lose honestly? Absolutely nothing.
It's time to spin the dice again I'm afraid. Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already won a CL trophy and shown he can at least set up a team so they aren't getting pumped with 30 shots against every week.
I think you're seeing that Carabao Cup from last season and in your mind it's like the PL or CL title. It isn't. We got the easiest pathway to that league cup win known to man but sadly ita hoodwinked a lot of people into thinking we've got a world class manager. We haven't.
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No, my argument is he has had 1 good season, 1 poor, but with good reason, so unless we can get an elite manager who will guarantee improvement, let's give him a 3rd season with a better balanced squad and see if he has another good one, or sack him if it's no better come Novemeber.
Sacking managers and staff is an expense we could do without if possible, pluabthe cost of the new manager.
What if the new manager wants 3 or 4 of his own targets in the window?
How long do we give the mew manager to instill his philosophy, if injuries stack up like they have this season?
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 14 minutes ago
Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already
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Fack that
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That's only because you want Southgate. đ
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
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Your reason for keeping him is because we might get someone worse if seems. That's a nonsense reason to keep an underperforming manager.
If the next guy does come in and fail it will be hugely disappointing but it won't be any different to keeping
ETH.
Your argument only works if ETH is going to become an amazing coach and start getting 75% of his decisions right. He won't.
So what have we got to lose honestly? Absolutely nothing.
It's time to spin the dice again I'm afraid. Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already won a CL trophy and shown he can at least set up a team so they aren't getting pumped with 30 shots against every week.
I think you're seeing that Carabao Cup from last season and in your mind it's like the PL or CL title. It isn't. We got the easiest pathway to that league cup win known to man but sadly ita hoodwinked a lot of people into thinking we've got a world class manager. We haven't.
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No, my argument is he has had 1 good season, 1 poor, but with good reason, so unless we can get an elite manager who will guarantee improvement, let's give him a 3rd season with a better balanced squad and see if he has another good one, or sack him if it's no better come Novemeber.
Sacking managers and staff is an expense we could do without if possible, pluabthe cost of the new manager.
What if the new manager wants 3 or 4 of his own targets in the window?
How long do we give the mew manager to instill his philosophy, if injuries stack up like they have this season?
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1 fairly good season and 1 disastrous one is a lot closer to the truth.
No season where we finished miles behind first place, lose 7-0 at Anfield and 6-3 at the council house can be classified as good I am afraid. Have higher standards.
You've got so accustomed to us now being poor that you're accepting that as a a good season which I get as it's easily done. For me he met his requirements last season and maybe slightly exceeding them with the help of our rivals being crap.
This season has been way worse than bad. It's been an absolute car crash.
As much as this has been a disaster of the season we could still find ourselves finishing above Spurs. They still have Liverpool and City to play!
3rd and 2 domestic up finals is a Good 1st season for ETH. Be realistic.
This one has been bad, but their are reasons behind that, which shouldn't be put on the manager.
Appoi t a new manager and you have to pay ETH and his team off pay for the release of the new one (if necessary) give him a couple of his own preferred targets, then give him at least 1 season to instill his tactics. What if injuries hit again?
I'm notnsayinf ETH WILL Have a good 3rd season, I'm saying let's see if he CAN.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 14 minutes ago
Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already
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Fack that
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That's only because you want Southgate. đ
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I don’t want either Tbf.
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 6 minutes ago
3rd and 2 domestic up finals is a Good 1st season for ETH. Be realistic.
This one has been bad, but their are reasons behind that, which shouldn't be put on the manager.
Appoi t a new manager and you have to pay ETH and his team off pay for the release of the new one (if necessary) give him a couple of his own preferred targets, then give him at least 1 season to instill his tactics. What if injuries hit again?
I'm notnsayinf ETH WILL Have a good 3rd season, I'm saying let's see if he CAN.
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3 domestic cup finals out of 4 on paper looks fantastic.
Go through the cup draws and it really isn't as impressive as it first appears. We got 10 home cup draws out of 10 last season. Not one of which was a team ranked about us in the league.
In fact I'd argue the only significant cup victories have been the final against Newcastle and the Liverpool game this season. The rest of them I'd expect any Utd manager to win quite frankly.
Let's not forget we will most likely lose to City too so it's all been for very little again.
I prefer to judge him on what I'm seeing on the pitch and in the transfer market.
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Making a case for Ten Hag
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posted on 3/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 4 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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Bit like saying what's the point of having a wash, I'm only going to get dirty again. đ
What does it matter who gets the job next if the current guy isn't getting it right? You're clinging on to something that doesn't exist surely?
I'd personally rather have Tuchel than ETH. Ruben Amorim would be an interesting appointment too. De Zerbi with a good budget could be good too. He's had Brighton playing far better football than we play afterall.
I really don't get the logic of saying we can't replace ETH because we don't know how the next guy will do. That makes no sense to me.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Ofcourse there are rumours that ange from spurs might also be taking over here. Between him and sir Gareth the future will be bright…
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Yeah, good luck with that.
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Haven't seen any of these links myself..... however you're incredibly naive if you don't think he'd leave Spurs for the United job. He'd drop you in a heartbeat if he got an offer.
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I don't think he would leave, no. He has the perfect structure to build at Spurs. You're only getting started and likely need a safe pair of hands for the first few years to stabilise the club. Also, have you been watching what's going on at Spurs? The wheels are coming off so as things stand, no one is going to come in for Ange.
posted on 3/5/24
Wouldn’t touch De Zerbi with a barge pole, his suicide football wouldn’t work with this group of players, we’d get even bigger hammerings
posted on 3/5/24
"What does it matter who gets the job next if the current guy isn't getting it right? You're clinging on to something that doesn't exist surely?"
Well let's give it to Giggs then, seeing as ETH has failed, yeah?
Surely, if ETH were sacked, it wouldn't be a punishment, it would be to bring in a better manager?
ETH has had 2 seasons. 1 good and 1 bad, but there are a number of things outside his control thag have contributed to the bad season.
posted on 3/5/24
I think the injuries and lack of top coaches available could save him, it’s already saved him the sack this season.
The club’s main priority is going to be recruitment this summer, if Ten Hag is on board with their plans and other options aren’t then we may just give him his final season for that reason alone.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
ETH has stated that he does not have the players to play the same way his Ajax team did.
Well, he doesn’t have the players to play 4-2-3-1 either but he keeps persisting with it.
He has to go as he has been unable to field a team that can stop other teams walking through our midfield and having twenty shots at goal each game.
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Pretty much where I am. Repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome gets you the sack.
Fans would give him the benefit of the doubt of playing more conservatively with all our injuries. He's refused to do this and continued the 'we attack then you attack' policy.
Time to go.
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And be replaced by who?
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Southgate or ange is who Jim wants
posted on 3/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
posted on 3/5/24
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 39 seconds ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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I think we considered it good because we were much better than the season before and it seemed we were heading somewhere. I know it was a low bar from which to improve from.
posted on 3/5/24
The best case you can make for Ten Hag is that you could have Gareth Southgate instead.
posted on 3/5/24
There were glimpses of good football. The win against Spurs. The draw at Stamford Bridge. The Barcelona ties. The first half at home to City. It wasn't consistent, but it gave reason to think ETH was building something: that there were new tactical principles he was teaching us, but which our players could only execute for short periods.
I realise now that I was wrong to assume the team would continue to assimilate these ideas and kick on this season.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 14 minutes ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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You aren’t being harsh, I thought he was very fortunate in getting third, in part due to direct rivals being poor. The cup runs have been his only saving grace really
posted on 3/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
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Your reason for keeping him is because we might get someone worse if seems. That's a nonsense reason to keep an underperforming manager.
If the next guy does come in and fail it will be hugely disappointing but it won't be any different to keeping
ETH.
Your argument only works if ETH is going to become an amazing coach and start getting 75% of his decisions right. He won't.
So what have we got to lose honestly? Absolutely nothing.
It's time to spin the dice again I'm afraid. Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already won a CL trophy and shown he can at least set up a team so they aren't getting pumped with 30 shots against every week.
I think you're seeing that Carabao Cup from last season and in your mind it's like the PL or CL title. It isn't. We got the easiest pathway to that league cup win known to man but sadly ita hoodwinked a lot of people into thinking we've got a world class manager. We haven't.
posted on 3/5/24
Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already
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Fack that
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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3rd and 2 domestic cup finals is a good season post SAF
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
There were glimpses of good football. The win against Spurs. The draw at Stamford Bridge. The Barcelona ties. The first half at home to City. It wasn't consistent, but it gave reason to think ETH was building something: that there were new tactical principles he was teaching us, but which our players could only execute for short periods.
I realise now that I was wrong to assume the team would continue to assimilate these ideas and kick on this season.
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Do you think they might have had we not suffered such horrendous injuries ?
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 14 minutes ago
I'm not sure how last season if now being consider a good season?
We came third but were miles off the pace... We won the milk cup, which is nice but hardly season defining... We got the the FA cup final, but whimpered out to City... and we got annihilated by the likes of pool and city in some of the worst humiliations we've ever seen.
Maybe i'm being harsh, as winning a trophy is always a good thing... But man, the football was pretty poor.
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You aren’t being harsh, I thought he was very fortunate in getting third, in part due to direct rivals being poor. The cup runs have been his only saving grace really
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That's like saying Arsenal, Villa and Spurs are only above us because we have been poor.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
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Your reason for keeping him is because we might get someone worse if seems. That's a nonsense reason to keep an underperforming manager.
If the next guy does come in and fail it will be hugely disappointing but it won't be any different to keeping
ETH.
Your argument only works if ETH is going to become an amazing coach and start getting 75% of his decisions right. He won't.
So what have we got to lose honestly? Absolutely nothing.
It's time to spin the dice again I'm afraid. Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already won a CL trophy and shown he can at least set up a team so they aren't getting pumped with 30 shots against every week.
I think you're seeing that Carabao Cup from last season and in your mind it's like the PL or CL title. It isn't. We got the easiest pathway to that league cup win known to man but sadly ita hoodwinked a lot of people into thinking we've got a world class manager. We haven't.
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No, my argument is he has had 1 good season, 1 poor, but with good reason, so unless we can get an elite manager who will guarantee improvement, let's give him a 3rd season with a better balanced squad and see if he has another good one, or sack him if it's no better come Novemeber.
Sacking managers and staff is an expense we could do without if possible, pluabthe cost of the new manager.
What if the new manager wants 3 or 4 of his own targets in the window?
How long do we give the mew manager to instill his philosophy, if injuries stack up like they have this season?
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 14 minutes ago
Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already
—
Fack that
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That's only because you want Southgate. đ
posted on 3/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 26 minutes ago
Surely, to call for a manager to be sacked, you should be able to name a superior replacement, and say how, and why they would be better?
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You're an idiot.
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I'd ask you to explain how, but the fact you haven't already, tells me you have nothing.
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Your reason for keeping him is because we might get someone worse if seems. That's a nonsense reason to keep an underperforming manager.
If the next guy does come in and fail it will be hugely disappointing but it won't be any different to keeping
ETH.
Your argument only works if ETH is going to become an amazing coach and start getting 75% of his decisions right. He won't.
So what have we got to lose honestly? Absolutely nothing.
It's time to spin the dice again I'm afraid. Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already won a CL trophy and shown he can at least set up a team so they aren't getting pumped with 30 shots against every week.
I think you're seeing that Carabao Cup from last season and in your mind it's like the PL or CL title. It isn't. We got the easiest pathway to that league cup win known to man but sadly ita hoodwinked a lot of people into thinking we've got a world class manager. We haven't.
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No, my argument is he has had 1 good season, 1 poor, but with good reason, so unless we can get an elite manager who will guarantee improvement, let's give him a 3rd season with a better balanced squad and see if he has another good one, or sack him if it's no better come Novemeber.
Sacking managers and staff is an expense we could do without if possible, pluabthe cost of the new manager.
What if the new manager wants 3 or 4 of his own targets in the window?
How long do we give the mew manager to instill his philosophy, if injuries stack up like they have this season?
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1 fairly good season and 1 disastrous one is a lot closer to the truth.
No season where we finished miles behind first place, lose 7-0 at Anfield and 6-3 at the council house can be classified as good I am afraid. Have higher standards.
You've got so accustomed to us now being poor that you're accepting that as a a good season which I get as it's easily done. For me he met his requirements last season and maybe slightly exceeding them with the help of our rivals being crap.
This season has been way worse than bad. It's been an absolute car crash.
posted on 3/5/24
As much as this has been a disaster of the season we could still find ourselves finishing above Spurs. They still have Liverpool and City to play!
posted on 3/5/24
3rd and 2 domestic up finals is a Good 1st season for ETH. Be realistic.
This one has been bad, but their are reasons behind that, which shouldn't be put on the manager.
Appoi t a new manager and you have to pay ETH and his team off pay for the release of the new one (if necessary) give him a couple of his own preferred targets, then give him at least 1 season to instill his tactics. What if injuries hit again?
I'm notnsayinf ETH WILL Have a good 3rd season, I'm saying let's see if he CAN.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face, proud owner of the 100k comment, fack you Michael Edward’s and your 5m, th (U19119)
posted 14 minutes ago
Thomas Tuchel is on the market and he's already
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Fack that
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That's only because you want Southgate. đ
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I don’t want either Tbf.
posted on 3/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 6 minutes ago
3rd and 2 domestic up finals is a Good 1st season for ETH. Be realistic.
This one has been bad, but their are reasons behind that, which shouldn't be put on the manager.
Appoi t a new manager and you have to pay ETH and his team off pay for the release of the new one (if necessary) give him a couple of his own preferred targets, then give him at least 1 season to instill his tactics. What if injuries hit again?
I'm notnsayinf ETH WILL Have a good 3rd season, I'm saying let's see if he CAN.
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3 domestic cup finals out of 4 on paper looks fantastic.
Go through the cup draws and it really isn't as impressive as it first appears. We got 10 home cup draws out of 10 last season. Not one of which was a team ranked about us in the league.
In fact I'd argue the only significant cup victories have been the final against Newcastle and the Liverpool game this season. The rest of them I'd expect any Utd manager to win quite frankly.
Let's not forget we will most likely lose to City too so it's all been for very little again.
I prefer to judge him on what I'm seeing on the pitch and in the transfer market.
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