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Are the Tories finished?

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posted on 26/5/24

comment by Robbb Pochettino (U22716)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Pochettino (U22716)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by 🥕 (U22339)
posted 7 minutes ago
I’d say 80% of the country have centrist views with 10% each going to the far left/far right.
Corbyn appealed to the 10% which gave Boris a free run at the 80% with no political home.

This time Keir has tapped into that 80% while Rishi has pandered to the 10% on the right.

The Tories next leader will be make or break for the party. A Suella/Shapps type will kill the party.
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Corbyn’s policies polled very highly when he was LOTO, it’s his personality and image which the stupid public didn’t like because they fell for what the media fed them time and time again.
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I like his economic policies, but not the woke nonsense
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Define woke
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Mass immigration
LGBTQ+
Etc etc

You know what I mean
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So you don’t know what woke means. No worries 👏
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Why not just tell him how you define woke instead of being provocative.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Pochettino (U22716)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Gaffer Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
16 and 17 year olds voting

I take it you don’t have any children
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They deserve more of a say than many of the older ones who can vote
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yeah all those people who have paid taxes over 40-50 years don’t deserve to be heard do they

Fackin liberal twaaaat
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Right there is the issue. It is not being on the right or left of politics. It is being far right or far left.
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Agree which is why Labour will win convincingly if there’s is a large turn out.

Most of their policies are more centrist leaning under Starmer.

The tories are just a mess and their stance on immigration is just ridiculous.
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the only one single sensible/votable policy that they had whatsoever was their plan to banning smoking in the long term, which was brilliant.

And they didnt bother to make that law.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 38 minutes ago
Glad to see a racist pikey find people being deprived of essential aid funny
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But using the word pikey is OK is it?

posted on 26/5/24

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by 🥕 (U22339)
posted 7 minutes ago
I’d say 80% of the country have centrist views with 10% each going to the far left/far right.
Corbyn appealed to the 10% which gave Boris a free run at the 80% with no political home.

This time Keir has tapped into that 80% while Rishi has pandered to the 10% on the right.

The Tories next leader will be make or break for the party. A Suella/Shapps type will kill the party.
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Corbyn’s policies polled very highly when he was LOTO, it’s his personality and image which the stupid public didn’t like because they fell for what the media fed them time and time again.
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This really. Media really didn't like him
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Exactly. So they ruined him and forced the country to vote for Tories instead, who proceeded to fack up the country with impunity.

Yet people deny when you say they are manipulated by the media. The media is powerful, yet we have allowed most of the media to be owned by just a few individuals through proxies and corporates, and naively assuming they won't use it to influence opinions and policy in their favour.

Of course they will and they are. Keep reading them rags.

posted on 26/5/24

What 3 (realistic) policies would you like to see introduced by the next government, whoever they are?

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Pochettino (U22716)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by 🥕 (U22339)
posted 7 minutes ago
I’d say 80% of the country have centrist views with 10% each going to the far left/far right.
Corbyn appealed to the 10% which gave Boris a free run at the 80% with no political home.

This time Keir has tapped into that 80% while Rishi has pandered to the 10% on the right.

The Tories next leader will be make or break for the party. A Suella/Shapps type will kill the party.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Corbyn’s policies polled very highly when he was LOTO, it’s his personality and image which the stupid public didn’t like because they fell for what the media fed them time and time again.
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I like his economic policies, but not the woke nonsense
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Define woke
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Mass immigration
LGBTQ+
Etc etc

You know what I mean
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So you allowed the country to go to the dogs because of that? They didn't do fack all about mass immigration or anything else anyway. They only used those issues to dupe you to support them while they ruined the country. You got played, they set the country back and nothing you wanted to see that made you back them actually came to pass.

These things are ultimately not as big a threat as they make you think anyway. eg. all the economists agree that Europe, Japan, Canada etc, even USA all need immigration before it's too late. We also need to build a future for all of our kids, not just some kids.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm not sure about compulsory voting. The right not to vote is a right as well. If you force people to vote then you could get really strange outcomes.
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If the choice of none of the above exists and it's recorded, it might be worth it.
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I can see merit in that but what if "None of the above" wins? Will it be ran again or is it purely to record it?

posted on 26/5/24

I doubt either the Tories or Labour will ever be finished (or even close to finished) with the FPTP system.

Despite how bad they've been they'll still be second which seems absolutely crazy, they've completely fecked public services while also riding scandal after scandal, have a feeling the true effects of their mismanagement are going to be felt by those who need help the most for years to come.

The UK desperately needs voting reform above all else.

posted on 26/5/24

When and why did hating on white men become vogue?

It wouldn’t be appropriate to disparage any other group in today’s society, so I don’t get why it’s considered appropriate. It’s become commonplace in business, the media, social dialogue. Very odd.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 11 minutes ago
When and why did hating on white men become vogue?

It wouldn’t be appropriate to disparage any other group in today’s society, so I don’t get why it’s considered appropriate. It’s become commonplace in business, the media, social dialogue. Very odd.
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No one hates white people French, stop getting all UKIPy

posted on 26/5/24

OP...I think.your pretty much spot on.

Weaknesses in leadership leads to what we see now, the rise of China and Russia. The west is preoccupied with defing what a man or woman is and trying so hard not to offend anything that moves. Meanwhile the Russians and Chinese regimes implement attacking sovereign states and build their armies and weaponry.

Here in the west...please use my pronouns!!!

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
OP...I think.your pretty much spot on.

Weaknesses in leadership leads to what we see now, the rise of China and Russia. The west is preoccupied with defing what a man or woman is and trying so hard not to offend anything that moves. Meanwhile the Russians and Chinese regimes implement attacking sovereign states and build their armies and weaponry.

Here in the west...please use my pronouns!!!

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How did you get that from the OP?

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
OP...I think.your pretty much spot on.

Weaknesses in leadership leads to what we see now, the rise of China and Russia. The west is preoccupied with defing what a man or woman is and trying so hard not to offend anything that moves. Meanwhile the Russians and Chinese regimes implement attacking sovereign states and build their armies and weaponry.

Here in the west...please use my pronouns!!!

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How did you get that from the OP?
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Yeah....I kinda went of on a tangent, but I agree with the op

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 11 minutes ago
When and why did hating on white men become vogue?

It wouldn’t be appropriate to disparage any other group in today’s society, so I don’t get why it’s considered appropriate. It’s become commonplace in business, the media, social dialogue. Very odd.
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No one hates white people French, stop getting all UKIPy
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No, it’s just the white men it’s trendy to have a pop at. Nobody would have the stones to criticise a woman of any denomination in 2024

posted on 26/5/24

As for the OP, Sunak has just suggested they will implement national service or forced labour as an alternative. They’re cooked

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
OP...I think.your pretty much spot on.

Weaknesses in leadership leads to what we see now, the rise of China and Russia. The west is preoccupied with defing what a man or woman is and trying so hard not to offend anything that moves. Meanwhile the Russians and Chinese regimes implement attacking sovereign states and build their armies and weaponry.

Here in the west...please use my pronouns!!!

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How did you get that from the OP?
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Yeah....I kinda went of on a tangent, but I agree with the op
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Like I mentioned to you before, you should just stick to talking about football, so people only think it’s football that you are clueless about.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
OP...I think.your pretty much spot on.

Weaknesses in leadership leads to what we see now, the rise of China and Russia. The west is preoccupied with defing what a man or woman is and trying so hard not to offend anything that moves. Meanwhile the Russians and Chinese regimes implement attacking sovereign states and build their armies and weaponry.

Here in the west...please use my pronouns!!!

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How did you get that from the OP?
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Yeah....I kinda went of on a tangent, but I agree with the op
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Like I mentioned to you before, you should just stick to talking about football, so people only think it’s football that you are clueless about.
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Ah..thanks, very much appreciated.

posted on 26/5/24

If you are old enough to legally be pumped by Peks then you are old enough to vote. Peks just afraid that 16 year olds will vote for a party that wants to raise the age of consent after their "experiences".

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 minute ago
OP...I think.your pretty much spot on.

Weaknesses in leadership leads to what we see now, the rise of China and Russia. The west is preoccupied with defing what a man or woman is and trying so hard not to offend anything that moves. Meanwhile the Russians and Chinese regimes implement attacking sovereign states and build their armies and weaponry.

Here in the west...please use my pronouns!!!

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How did you get that from the OP?
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Yeah....I kinda went of on a tangent, but I agree with the op
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Like I mentioned to you before, you should just stick to talking about football, so people only think it’s football that you are clueless about.
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Ah..thanks, very much appreciated.
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posted on 26/5/24

comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 11 minutes ago
When and why did hating on white men become vogue?

It wouldn’t be appropriate to disparage any other group in today’s society, so I don’t get why it’s considered appropriate. It’s become commonplace in business, the media, social dialogue. Very odd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one hates white people French, stop getting all UKIPy
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No, it’s just the white men it’s trendy to have a pop at. Nobody would have the stones to criticise a woman of any denomination in 2024
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Tell that to Diane Abbott

posted on 26/5/24

Yeah no one criticises women football pundits. Especially not black women pundits like Alex Scott. Everyone is too afraid. Never heard a single bad word about her.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Graham Fyfe (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah no one criticises women football pundits. Especially not black women pundits like Alex Scott. Everyone is too afraid. Never heard a single bad word about her.
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Shes too small...there, sorted...lol

posted on 26/5/24

comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 20 minutes ago
As for the OP, Sunak has just suggested they will implement national service or forced labour as an alternative. They’re cooked
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Will never happen. Too many young people in this country don’t consider themselves British.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 20 minutes ago
As for the OP, Sunak has just suggested they will implement national service or forced labour as an alternative. They’re cooked
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Will never happen. Too many young people in this country don’t consider themselves British.
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It’s a move born of desperation. The death throes of a dying PM.

posted on 26/5/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
posted 20 minutes ago
As for the OP, Sunak has just suggested they will implement national service or forced labour as an alternative. They’re cooked
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Will never happen. Too many young people in this country don’t consider themselves British.
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Yeah that’s the reason it will never happen.

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