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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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comment by kramthered (U10304)
posted 13 minutes ago
Here’s some context about the team Ten Hag inherited
Ralf Rangnick’s last starting eleven
Was, DeGea, Dalot. Lindelof, McGuire, Telles, Fred, McTominay, Mjebri ,Bruno. Elanga and Cavani
Bench was Mata, Shoretire, Varane, Jones, Savage, Heaton and Fernandez
I assume Rashford and Shaw were injured, Pogba was already off in the summer.
Are you sure that’s better than what Pep inherited?
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Well are you sure pierrepoint
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Yes I am sure.
That City team was worse than our squad in 2022 when ETH arrived. A year prior Ole finished second with them for a start.
"4) He lies to the fans 'We are one of the most entertaining teams in England' as well as constantly stating we played well when we've been battered at home by the likes of Palace, Bournemouth and even Wolves"
Amazes me how many people take every word a manager says as gospel in these interviews
He even said himself on MUTV at the weekend "we were 5hit against Palace"
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"4) He lies to the fans 'We are one of the most entertaining teams in England' as well as constantly stating we played well when we've been battered at home by the likes of Palace, Bournemouth and even Wolves"
Amazes me how many people take every word a manager says as gospel in these interviews
He even said himself on MUTV at the weekend "we were 5hit against Palace"
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Not the 4-0
Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Pep took over a team that had finished second a year prior as well.
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Pep took over a team that had finished second a year prior as well.
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You can't make consequences even if raging.
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Makes facking sense. Its half term. Only 3 more days.
Stay.
Away.
From.
The.
Knives
Scary reading some of these comments. One match. One FA cup win against city should lead to big organisation like Ineos changing their mind. If Manchester United fans think writing rubbish letters to billionaire Jim is going to sway his decision, I suggest these people get a day job.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
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Scary reading some of these comments. One match. One FA cup win against city should lead to big organisation like Ineos changing their mind. If Manchester United fans think writing rubbish letters to billionaire Jim is going to sway his decision, I suggest these people get a day job.
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Bang on.
It’s like hating your wife and talking about divorce, but then she puts in a decent shift in the bedroom so you stay together.
Ten Hag out.
Martinez has won the FA cup with Wigan and then I believe they got relegated or fought hard not to that same season. Winning the FA cup is great but it is in no way the unit of progress of a team. Right signings, style of play, league point, goals scored, goals conceded, players wanting to play for the manager will tell more about a team's direction than a cup win.
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Martinez has won the FA cup with Wigan and then I believe they got relegated or fought hard not to that same season. Winning the FA cup is great but it is in no way the unit of progress of a team. Right signings, style of play, league point, goals scored, goals conceded, players wanting to play for the manager will tell more about a team's direction than a cup win.
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Lmao. Still hasn't won anything, legendary manager he is.
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Scary reading some of these comments. One match. One FA cup win against city should lead to big organisation like Ineos changing their mind. If Manchester United fans think writing rubbish letters to billionaire Jim is going to sway his decision, I suggest these people get a day job.
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Bang on.
It’s like hating your wife and talking about divorce, but then she puts in a decent shift in the bedroom so you stay together.
Ten Hag out.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=van%20gall%20sexy%20football&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c1afe65b,vid:CqfpDOZjF9E,st:0
When Arsenal struggled under Arteta, you could still see a clear style of play being implemented and what he was trying to do.
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Absolute cac. Arsenal fans wanted him gone,
https://x.com/nissangtr786/status/1795511565686305148
My post stating this basically being a load of nonsense! I always found that funny, that Arteta had a plan when he was one of the worst managers in the league.
So Arteta with a plan was 20th out of 20th for shots for. Ten Hag with no plan was 1st out of 20th for shots for in the first season they came. I know Emery did a few months of that season but it is still funny this plan they say Arteta had.
Arteta only finished 8th that season as they were ranked 1st for converting chances.
Arteta first year 20th for shots. Ten Hag 1st lol.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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Football had evolved from when he was winning everything. He was yesterdays man.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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Football had evolved from when he was winning everything. He was yesterdays man.
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I guess the same applies to LvG too yes? Very convenient
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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Pathetic Ditch league? Ajax have won the CL more than we have.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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Football had evolved from when he was winning everything. He was yesterdays man.
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I guess the same applies to LvG too yes? Very convenient
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LVG hadn’t had elite success since 1995 which was 19 years before he took over. So yeah he was also an outdated dinosaur like Jose.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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Pathetic Ditch league? Ajax have won the CL more than we have.
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Not won it since 1995. We’ve been in 4 UCL finals since then and won 2.
The Dutch League is awful pal.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
posted on 28/5/24
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comment by kramthered (U10304)
posted 13 minutes ago
Here’s some context about the team Ten Hag inherited
Ralf Rangnick’s last starting eleven
Was, DeGea, Dalot. Lindelof, McGuire, Telles, Fred, McTominay, Mjebri ,Bruno. Elanga and Cavani
Bench was Mata, Shoretire, Varane, Jones, Savage, Heaton and Fernandez
I assume Rashford and Shaw were injured, Pogba was already off in the summer.
Are you sure that’s better than what Pep inherited?
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Well are you sure pierrepoint
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Yes I am sure.
That City team was worse than our squad in 2022 when ETH arrived. A year prior Ole finished second with them for a start.
posted on 28/5/24
"4) He lies to the fans 'We are one of the most entertaining teams in England' as well as constantly stating we played well when we've been battered at home by the likes of Palace, Bournemouth and even Wolves"
Amazes me how many people take every word a manager says as gospel in these interviews
He even said himself on MUTV at the weekend "we were 5hit against Palace"
posted on 28/5/24
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
"4) He lies to the fans 'We are one of the most entertaining teams in England' as well as constantly stating we played well when we've been battered at home by the likes of Palace, Bournemouth and even Wolves"
Amazes me how many people take every word a manager says as gospel in these interviews
He even said himself on MUTV at the weekend "we were 5hit against Palace"
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posted on 28/5/24
Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
posted on 28/5/24
comment by kramthered (U10304)
posted 20 minutes ago
Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
posted on 28/5/24
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Pep took over a team that had finished second a year prior as well.
posted on 28/5/24
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Pep took over a team that had finished second a year prior as well.
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You can't make consequences even if raging.
posted on 28/5/24
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Yes I am sure.
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Here’s a good article, have a read
https://www.si.com/soccer/2016/05/10/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-changes-players
I really can’t see how you think the United squad I initially quoted is better than what Pep got served up
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Ten Hag inherited a set of players who’d finished second a year prior.
Pep took over a side who limped to 4th place the previous year. Only about 5 points more than Southampton ffs.
Ten Hag out.
I will be raging if we keep him and I will make sure there are consequences.
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Makes facking sense. Its half term. Only 3 more days.
Stay.
Away.
From.
The.
Knives
posted on 28/5/24
Scary reading some of these comments. One match. One FA cup win against city should lead to big organisation like Ineos changing their mind. If Manchester United fans think writing rubbish letters to billionaire Jim is going to sway his decision, I suggest these people get a day job.
posted on 28/5/24
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posted 1 minute ago
Scary reading some of these comments. One match. One FA cup win against city should lead to big organisation like Ineos changing their mind. If Manchester United fans think writing rubbish letters to billionaire Jim is going to sway his decision, I suggest these people get a day job.
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Bang on.
It’s like hating your wife and talking about divorce, but then she puts in a decent shift in the bedroom so you stay together.
Ten Hag out.
posted on 28/5/24
Martinez has won the FA cup with Wigan and then I believe they got relegated or fought hard not to that same season. Winning the FA cup is great but it is in no way the unit of progress of a team. Right signings, style of play, league point, goals scored, goals conceded, players wanting to play for the manager will tell more about a team's direction than a cup win.
posted on 28/5/24
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Martinez has won the FA cup with Wigan and then I believe they got relegated or fought hard not to that same season. Winning the FA cup is great but it is in no way the unit of progress of a team. Right signings, style of play, league point, goals scored, goals conceded, players wanting to play for the manager will tell more about a team's direction than a cup win.
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Lmao. Still hasn't won anything, legendary manager he is.
posted on 28/5/24
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comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
Scary reading some of these comments. One match. One FA cup win against city should lead to big organisation like Ineos changing their mind. If Manchester United fans think writing rubbish letters to billionaire Jim is going to sway his decision, I suggest these people get a day job.
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Bang on.
It’s like hating your wife and talking about divorce, but then she puts in a decent shift in the bedroom so you stay together.
Ten Hag out.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=van%20gall%20sexy%20football&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c1afe65b,vid:CqfpDOZjF9E,st:0
posted on 28/5/24
When Arsenal struggled under Arteta, you could still see a clear style of play being implemented and what he was trying to do.
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Absolute cac. Arsenal fans wanted him gone,
posted on 28/5/24
https://x.com/nissangtr786/status/1795511565686305148
My post stating this basically being a load of nonsense! I always found that funny, that Arteta had a plan when he was one of the worst managers in the league.
posted on 28/5/24
So Arteta with a plan was 20th out of 20th for shots for. Ten Hag with no plan was 1st out of 20th for shots for in the first season they came. I know Emery did a few months of that season but it is still funny this plan they say Arteta had.
posted on 28/5/24
Arteta only finished 8th that season as they were ranked 1st for converting chances.
posted on 28/5/24
Arteta first year 20th for shots. Ten Hag 1st lol.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
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Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
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You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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Football had evolved from when he was winning everything. He was yesterdays man.
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
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It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
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Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
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Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
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It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
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Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
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Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
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If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
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Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
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Football had evolved from when he was winning everything. He was yesterdays man.
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I guess the same applies to LvG too yes? Very convenient
posted on 28/5/24
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
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The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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Pathetic Ditch league? Ajax have won the CL more than we have.
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comment by kramthered (U10304)
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
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It does work if they win all the trophies? All I'm seeing is City and Liverpool winning everything with us Arsenal and Chelsea winning the odd one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're comparing day one Ten Hag to day one Pep and Klopp, based on all manager's respective achievements at the time of taking over their respective club's, then you don't understand football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Resorting to 'you don't understand football' is lazy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You don’t though.
Pep arrived as a serial winner. Literally with nothing to prove and a trophy cabinet that had every medal in it.
Klopp arrived having broken the system in Germany and reaching several finals, including UCL, all on a limited budget.
If you think that’s the same as Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch League and laughable Dutch Cup then I suggest you take up watching WWE
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then what's your excuse for Jose? Won the CL with Porto, won the treble with Inter, won trophies at Chelsea.
World class CV. What's Joses excuse for his time at United?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Football had evolved from when he was winning everything. He was yesterdays man.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess the same applies to LvG too yes? Very convenient
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LVG hadn’t had elite success since 1995 which was 19 years before he took over. So yeah he was also an outdated dinosaur like Jose.
posted on 28/5/24
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comment by kramthered (U10304)
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I’m always entertained, not necessarily joyously though.
It’s called following your club loyally, the likes of you would have had SAF out after two years 😂
The reason I asked, where you watch from is because those “ non real “ fans like me who buy a ST year after year don’t want him out.
So, could you answer the question please.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's easy for you to sit behind a screen and claim you go every week, have a season ticket and so on but you clearly don't.
Proper fans don't want a culture of failure at this club, which is what we would be swimming in if we keep this fraud.
Sack him now.
Ten Hag out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Proper fans support the club through thick and thin. Plastic fans are only fans during the good times. I would just shut up now that you have been found out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why didn't we keep Moyes then?
LVG?
Jose?
Ole?
Yeah that's right. Because they weren't good enough and neither is Ten Hag.
You Hag-apologists would have him managing us in League Two or something.
Deluded the lot of ya.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about them not being good enough. It's because changing the manager every 2 years has not worked. If it didn't work last time, what's to say sacking the next one will be any different?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because, with law of averages, if we keep changing managers then eventually we will find the right one.
Think I am mad?
Look at Chelsea.
Jose sacked and the mission was to continue to dominate football by winning EPL, UCL etc.
Grant hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Scolari hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Ancelotti hired. Good enough for a time but left.
AVB hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Di Matteo hired. Exceeds expectations but overall not good enough. Sacked.
Benitez hired. Interim appointment so N/A.
Jose hired. Good enough for a short time but then fell off. Sacked.
Conte hired. Wins the title and cup but went sour. Sacked.
Sarri hired. Not good enough. Sacked.
Do you see what how I am right?? So many trophies won by that list above, because they wouldn't be scared to sack managers.
You lot would still have Avram Grant as the Chelsea manager if you supported them.
Ten Hag out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The 2 best teams in Britain over the past 5 years have been the clubs that stuck to their managers though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again, another point that doesn't work.
With the CV's that Pep and Klopp had at the time they arrived, they were always going to get backed and stood by. Why wouldn't they of, given what they'd achieved?
Do you genuinely think Ten Hag winning the pathetic Dutch league and cups is similar to what Pep and Klopp had done?
Plus you have to factor in, more so with Klopp, the teams they both took over.
The side ETH inherited was far better than the City team Pep took over, or the LFC team Klopp took over.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pathetic Ditch league? Ajax have won the CL more than we have.
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Not won it since 1995. We’ve been in 4 UCL finals since then and won 2.
The Dutch League is awful pal.
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