Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c2xx4dl44v5o
https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/2024/6/13/who-will-win-when-is-the-football-final-the-uefa-euro-2024-guide
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/12/ban-headscarves-france-secularism-exclusion-intolerance
I find this bit interesting in the last article:
"In March 2004, after months of debate, the French parliament voted through a ban on headscarves in schools, outlawing “symbols or clothing that conspicuously demonstrate a pupil’s religious affiliation”.
That is when I realised that the decision was quite popular in feminist circles, including the predominantly white group I was part of. Many white feminists thought it was their mission to help emancipate Muslim women and girls from a particular type of patriarchy tied to Islam. I quit the group. If Muslim women were enduring a specific form of patriarchal oppression, and really had no agency or free will when it came to wearing the hijab – a view I don’t share – how would it help them to exclude them from schools and access to emancipatory knowledge?"
comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Pale... (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
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I haven't forgotten. They've taken laïcité to the extreme. No one is calling them out for this extremism. When extremism is socially acceptable, is it no longer extremism?
comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
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yes France is a European, Christian country
what's controversial about that ?
Nigeria is a black african country with associated culture , correct ?
Foreigners who live & work there must recognise that & abide by local laws and customs...correct ?
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Many white feminists thought it was their mission to help emancipate Muslim women and girls from a particular type of patriarchy tied to Islam. I quit the group. If Muslim women were enduring a specific form of patriarchal oppression, and really had no agency or free will when it came to wearing the hijab – a view I don’t share – how would it help them to exclude them from schools and access to emancipatory knowledge?"
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I thought similar with the burkini ban. It didn't stop any oppression, all it meant is that some Muslim girls weren't allowed to swim any more. Great job?
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
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yes France is a European, Christian country
what's controversial about that ?
Nigeria is a black african country with associated culture , correct ?
Foreigners who live & work there must recognise that & abide by local laws and customs...correct ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don't claim to be a Christian nation. They go on about laïcité, which they have taken to an extreme level. Their extremists application of it is discriminating against women of only 1 religion who on the majority are of Arab and African decent.
The laws they have made, while worded to apply for everyone is really only to target one group. Westerners seem to have had a tiff about LGBTQ rights in Qatar yet seem fine with discrimination against Africans and Arabs in their own mist. Seems to be quite selective.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
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The wearing of crucifixes isn't a religious requirement and can be hidden under clothing. It's not the same.
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Many white feminists thought it was their mission to help emancipate Muslim women and girls from a particular type of patriarchy tied to Islam. I quit the group. If Muslim women were enduring a specific form of patriarchal oppression, and really had no agency or free will when it came to wearing the hijab – a view I don’t share – how would it help them to exclude them from schools and access to emancipatory knowledge?"
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I thought similar with the burkini ban. It didn't stop any oppression, all it meant is that some Muslim girls weren't allowed to swim any more. Great job?
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Because it was never about women's right. It's about, at least with this group she was a part of, a form of racism. They think they're enlightened and anyone that doesn't adhere to their form of feminism isn't following the right type of feminism. So instead of Africans or Arabs telling the women what they can or cannot wear it is White French men and women telling these women what they can and cannot wear.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
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The wearing of crucifixes isn't a religious requirement and can be hidden under clothing. It's not the same.
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There was a case where an Air France(?) employee went to court because she couldn't wear her crucifix on the outside of her blouse and she considered it as a religeous requirement.
It does come under the same unbrella.
A defence manufacturer sponsored dortmund
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The wearing of crucifixes isn't a religious requirement and can be hidden under clothing. It's not the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a case where an Air France(?) employee went to court because she couldn't wear her crucifix on the outside of her blouse and she considered it as a religeous requirement.
It does come under the same unbrella.
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Not really. It isn't a requirement according to their religion (she may have felt this, but that's not the case). Secondly she can still wear it under her clothes. With the hijab, there is no option for that. And in sport, there has been clearly a discrimination against one as you'd not be allowed to wear such jewellery due to safety concerns.
I'll add that she should be allowed to wear her cross on the outside. The issue is, that the government and politicians stance on laïcité over the last 15-20 years have overstepped the bounds of separation of religion and state to such a level that it does interfere with people's personal lives. It literally governs what people can and cannot wear.
Here is another article I found that not only mentions the hijab ban but other practices taking part in Paris, such a displace unhoused people and the Western media's double standards.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/paris-2024-olympics-games-being-190443821.html?guccounter=1
"Many western athletes, commentators, news outlets and politicians were previously critical of the human rights records of countries like Azerbaijan, Russia, China and Qatar when they hosted mega sporting events. Many claimed that those governments were using sporting events to launder their human rights records.
Some even called for boycotts and bans.
Yet, that kind of criticism is rarely directed inward as well.
Researchers have previously argued that western media reports human rights abuses in the West with a tilted bias suggesting westerners are morally superior and concerned, framing issues as isolated rather than systemic.
For instance, a recent study outlines how British media portrayed English cricketer Azeem Rafiq’s allegations of racism against the Yorkshire County Cricket Club. The media narrative suggested that British society is aware of racism, accepts criticism and is ready to act.
However, the same media also portrayed Rafiq as an outsider and his allegations as isolated incidents."
Researchers have previously argued that western media reports human rights abuses in the West with a tilted bias suggesting westerners are morally superior and concerned, framing issues as isolated rather than systemic.
=====
Even your own article mentions Russia and China as escaping the sportswashing accusations without mentioning that the west is exactly the same and has escaped those accusations even on this article which is supposed to highlighted bias.
An article about bias where the writer isn't aware of their own biases. That's the norm in the west.
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to human... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Researchers have previously argued that western media reports human rights abuses in the West with a tilted bias suggesting westerners are morally superior and concerned, framing issues as isolated rather than systemic.
=====
Even your own article mentions Russia and China as escaping the sportswashing accusations without mentioning that the west is exactly the same and has escaped those accusations even on this article which is supposed to highlighted bias.
An article about bias where the writer isn't aware of their own biases. That's the norm in the west.
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I've listed several different articles (see replies). Each one with different writers. Also the point on this one is about how human rights abuses within the west is reported compared to those outside it. Whereas the article you are referring to was talking specifically about Sportwashing.
“Why is it when certain nations do Sportwashing, it is ignored yet with others big things are made in the media about it?”
The same reason it’s ok for certain nations to bomb Muslim countries
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posted on 15/6/24
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
posted on 15/6/24
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c2xx4dl44v5o
https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/2024/6/13/who-will-win-when-is-the-football-final-the-uefa-euro-2024-guide
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/12/ban-headscarves-france-secularism-exclusion-intolerance
I find this bit interesting in the last article:
"In March 2004, after months of debate, the French parliament voted through a ban on headscarves in schools, outlawing “symbols or clothing that conspicuously demonstrate a pupil’s religious affiliation”.
That is when I realised that the decision was quite popular in feminist circles, including the predominantly white group I was part of. Many white feminists thought it was their mission to help emancipate Muslim women and girls from a particular type of patriarchy tied to Islam. I quit the group. If Muslim women were enduring a specific form of patriarchal oppression, and really had no agency or free will when it came to wearing the hijab – a view I don’t share – how would it help them to exclude them from schools and access to emancipatory knowledge?"
posted on 15/6/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Pale... (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven't forgotten. They've taken laïcité to the extreme. No one is calling them out for this extremism. When extremism is socially acceptable, is it no longer extremism?
posted on 15/6/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes France is a European, Christian country
what's controversial about that ?
Nigeria is a black african country with associated culture , correct ?
Foreigners who live & work there must recognise that & abide by local laws and customs...correct ?
posted on 15/6/24
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
posted on 15/6/24
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Many white feminists thought it was their mission to help emancipate Muslim women and girls from a particular type of patriarchy tied to Islam. I quit the group. If Muslim women were enduring a specific form of patriarchal oppression, and really had no agency or free will when it came to wearing the hijab – a view I don’t share – how would it help them to exclude them from schools and access to emancipatory knowledge?"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought similar with the burkini ban. It didn't stop any oppression, all it meant is that some Muslim girls weren't allowed to swim any more. Great job?
posted on 15/6/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Klopp's Last Dance - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Don't forget the Muslim footballers were banned from fasting when on international duty.
Cos this is a white country then it's not sports washing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes France is a European, Christian country
what's controversial about that ?
Nigeria is a black african country with associated culture , correct ?
Foreigners who live & work there must recognise that & abide by local laws and customs...correct ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don't claim to be a Christian nation. They go on about laïcité, which they have taken to an extreme level. Their extremists application of it is discriminating against women of only 1 religion who on the majority are of Arab and African decent.
The laws they have made, while worded to apply for everyone is really only to target one group. Westerners seem to have had a tiff about LGBTQ rights in Qatar yet seem fine with discrimination against Africans and Arabs in their own mist. Seems to be quite selective.
posted on 15/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The wearing of crucifixes isn't a religious requirement and can be hidden under clothing. It's not the same.
posted on 15/6/24
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Many white feminists thought it was their mission to help emancipate Muslim women and girls from a particular type of patriarchy tied to Islam. I quit the group. If Muslim women were enduring a specific form of patriarchal oppression, and really had no agency or free will when it came to wearing the hijab – a view I don’t share – how would it help them to exclude them from schools and access to emancipatory knowledge?"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought similar with the burkini ban. It didn't stop any oppression, all it meant is that some Muslim girls weren't allowed to swim any more. Great job?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because it was never about women's right. It's about, at least with this group she was a part of, a form of racism. They think they're enlightened and anyone that doesn't adhere to their form of feminism isn't following the right type of feminism. So instead of Africans or Arabs telling the women what they can or cannot wear it is White French men and women telling these women what they can and cannot wear.
posted on 15/6/24
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The wearing of crucifixes isn't a religious requirement and can be hidden under clothing. It's not the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a case where an Air France(?) employee went to court because she couldn't wear her crucifix on the outside of her blouse and she considered it as a religeous requirement.
It does come under the same unbrella.
posted on 15/6/24
A defence manufacturer sponsored dortmund
posted on 15/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I didn't agree with the banning of headscarves, for balance though they also banned the wearing of visible crucifixes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The wearing of crucifixes isn't a religious requirement and can be hidden under clothing. It's not the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a case where an Air France(?) employee went to court because she couldn't wear her crucifix on the outside of her blouse and she considered it as a religeous requirement.
It does come under the same unbrella.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really. It isn't a requirement according to their religion (she may have felt this, but that's not the case). Secondly she can still wear it under her clothes. With the hijab, there is no option for that. And in sport, there has been clearly a discrimination against one as you'd not be allowed to wear such jewellery due to safety concerns.
posted on 15/6/24
I'll add that she should be allowed to wear her cross on the outside. The issue is, that the government and politicians stance on laïcité over the last 15-20 years have overstepped the bounds of separation of religion and state to such a level that it does interfere with people's personal lives. It literally governs what people can and cannot wear.
posted on 15/6/24
Here is another article I found that not only mentions the hijab ban but other practices taking part in Paris, such a displace unhoused people and the Western media's double standards.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/paris-2024-olympics-games-being-190443821.html?guccounter=1
posted on 15/6/24
"Many western athletes, commentators, news outlets and politicians were previously critical of the human rights records of countries like Azerbaijan, Russia, China and Qatar when they hosted mega sporting events. Many claimed that those governments were using sporting events to launder their human rights records.
Some even called for boycotts and bans.
Yet, that kind of criticism is rarely directed inward as well.
Researchers have previously argued that western media reports human rights abuses in the West with a tilted bias suggesting westerners are morally superior and concerned, framing issues as isolated rather than systemic.
For instance, a recent study outlines how British media portrayed English cricketer Azeem Rafiq’s allegations of racism against the Yorkshire County Cricket Club. The media narrative suggested that British society is aware of racism, accepts criticism and is ready to act.
However, the same media also portrayed Rafiq as an outsider and his allegations as isolated incidents."
posted on 15/6/24
Researchers have previously argued that western media reports human rights abuses in the West with a tilted bias suggesting westerners are morally superior and concerned, framing issues as isolated rather than systemic.
=====
Even your own article mentions Russia and China as escaping the sportswashing accusations without mentioning that the west is exactly the same and has escaped those accusations even on this article which is supposed to highlighted bias.
An article about bias where the writer isn't aware of their own biases. That's the norm in the west.
posted on 15/6/24
comment by The greatest thing that ever happened to human... (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Researchers have previously argued that western media reports human rights abuses in the West with a tilted bias suggesting westerners are morally superior and concerned, framing issues as isolated rather than systemic.
=====
Even your own article mentions Russia and China as escaping the sportswashing accusations without mentioning that the west is exactly the same and has escaped those accusations even on this article which is supposed to highlighted bias.
An article about bias where the writer isn't aware of their own biases. That's the norm in the west.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've listed several different articles (see replies). Each one with different writers. Also the point on this one is about how human rights abuses within the west is reported compared to those outside it. Whereas the article you are referring to was talking specifically about Sportwashing.
posted on 16/6/24
“Why is it when certain nations do Sportwashing, it is ignored yet with others big things are made in the media about it?”
The same reason it’s ok for certain nations to bomb Muslim countries
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