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posted on 31/7/24

sounds like he possibly might have cracked a bone in his foot. Like Lisandro Martínez did. Gonna have to give him time to get over this and not rush him back.

Probably unavoidable injury but typical for Unted these days. And yet another another pre season money spinning tour that causes the team more problems than answers. Lets hope the squad can hit the ground running for once for the first PL game and not take 4 or 5 games games to collectively get up to speed and match fit, when everybody finally arrives back home together. That Liverpool game might be annoyingly too early. Unless things really have changed.



posted on 31/7/24

Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 31/7/24

Yeah, I don't like to blame injuries regarding performance etc, but we are having more than our fair share, whether it be bad luck or something more rooted in the club's methods than that.

And it seems to be the defence that is always affected. As I said, would be nice to get a fairly settled back 4 ASAP.

I think Liverpool with have a relatively inconsistent season - there will no doubt be moments of brilliance, but also off days whilst Slot settles in etc. Just hope it's an off day against us.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
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I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 5 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
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We will always go on pre-season tours. Players will get injuries, no matter when or where. Just the nature of the beast I guess

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 31/7/24

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
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I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.
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All about the money / PR machine etc. We're basically a global company, with fans everywhere, so the money men got to be satisfied - just the way it is

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 22 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
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Pretty much every PL club goes on pre season tours. Just be grateful that PL games aren’t being played abroad yet.

posted on 31/7/24

If we are devastated about a youth prospect, transfer fee aside, getting injured then our problems are bigger than just ETH.

Yoro was never at 18 years old going to be our starting CB.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
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I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.
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All about the money / PR machine etc. We're basically a global company, with fans everywhere, so the money men got to be satisfied - just the way it is
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Whether you play in the States or go to Scotland, you have to play pre-season games...there is no correlation between playing in the USA and Yoro breaking his foot in a challenge. Hard to point the finger at the money men for this one!

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we are devastated about a youth prospect, transfer fee aside, getting injured then our problems are bigger than just ETH.

Yoro was never at 18 years old going to be our starting CB.


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He definitely was. Yoro wouldn't have left Lille and let his Real Madrid dream pass by to come and sit on our bench.

He absolutely would have been a starter and at 50 million he needs to be. We haven't got £50m to spend on backups anymore.

I'm worried what impact this is.going to have on his debut season. If he's out for 3-4 months then he's getting no pre season obviously and when hes back he's going to be miles off the pace and it will take time to get up to speed. Before you know it half a season is already gone.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
If we are devastated about a youth prospect, transfer fee aside, getting injured then our problems are bigger than just ETH.

Yoro was never at 18 years old going to be our starting CB.


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Who our starting cbs? Martinez and Maguire?

posted on 31/7/24

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
If we are devastated about a youth prospect, transfer fee aside, getting injured then our problems are bigger than just ETH.

Yoro was never at 18 years old going to be our starting CB.


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Who our starting cbs? Martinez and Maguire?
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Martinez and De Ligt (who isn't good enough btw) if he signs.

Possibly even Branthwaite (again not a top level CB) if we sign him

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we are devastated about a youth prospect, transfer fee aside, getting injured then our problems are bigger than just ETH.

Yoro was never at 18 years old going to be our starting CB.


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He definitely was. Yoro wouldn't have left Lille and let his Real Madrid dream pass by to come and sit on our bench.

He absolutely would have been a starter and at 50 million he needs to be. We haven't got £50m to spend on backups anymore.

I'm worried what impact this is.going to have on his debut season. If he's out for 3-4 months then he's getting no pre season obviously and when hes back he's going to be miles off the pace and it will take time to get up to speed. Before you know it half a season is already gone.
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Lol if you think some skinny unknown 18 year old kid was going to be our starting CB then you're mad.

Clearly he would/will play but not every week. Our plan is to bring in another CB like De Ligt/Branthwaite and partner one of those with Martinez. Yoro would rotate with Maguire/Lindelof and Evans.

posted on 31/7/24

Latest I read regarding de Ligt was that Bayern are keeping him as they can’t agree on a fee for Tar. Bayern fans seem very happy about it.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 5 minutes ago
Latest I read regarding de Ligt was that Bayern are keeping him as they can’t agree on a fee for Tar. Bayern fans seem very happy about it.
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De Ligt is a worse version of Maguire. In the Premiership, trust me De Ligt would look like Titus Bramble.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All about the money / PR machine etc. We're basically a global company, with fans everywhere, so the money men got to be satisfied - just the way it is
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whether you play in the States or go to Scotland, you have to play pre-season games...there is no correlation between playing in the USA and Yoro breaking his foot in a challenge. Hard to point the finger at the money men for this one!
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Not really

You dont need to play high intensity games 1000sof miles away vs Arsenal Liverpool etc. Srtraight aaway to get match fit.

posted on 31/7/24

Has there been any confirmation what the injury is and how it happened?

posted on 31/7/24

Exactly, pre season isn’t about playing top teams, it’s about getting player match fit for the season.

I’m not really sure what having a pre season tour in the US with mainly your youth team is going to do to help build your brand?

Hopefully the players who are back at Carrington get some friendlies too.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All about the money / PR machine etc. We're basically a global company, with fans everywhere, so the money men got to be satisfied - just the way it is
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whether you play in the States or go to Scotland, you have to play pre-season games...there is no correlation between playing in the USA and Yoro breaking his foot in a challenge. Hard to point the finger at the money men for this one!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really

You dont need to play high intensity games 1000sof miles away vs Arsenal Liverpool etc. Srtraight aaway to get match fit.
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What does the distance have to do with a player getting injured...plus it was half the Arsenal first XI against half the Utd first XI. You're more likely to get a kicking from playing a friendly at Blackpool than some faux competitive exhibition State-side

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All about the money / PR machine etc. We're basically a global company, with fans everywhere, so the money men got to be satisfied - just the way it is
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whether you play in the States or go to Scotland, you have to play pre-season games...there is no correlation between playing in the USA and Yoro breaking his foot in a challenge. Hard to point the finger at the money men for this one!
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Nobody said otherwise. The point was that last summer's tour was a mess and badly planned, and it seems to me that with the Euros, we could have done with keeping things more local rather than having half the team at Carrington and half the team in the States this summer (especially when we have a new coaching team with new ideas to be implemented).

posted on 31/7/24

Yoro was self-evidently signed to be a foundational player in our defence. Pretty much all of the informed commentary I have read / listened too raves about his raw qualities while also pointing out a number of areas where he needs to improve his game and suggest these will be exploited by clever PL attacking units. Most suggest he won't be a guaranteed starter and will benefit from gradually getting experienced while not having the pressure of being the first choice PL from the outset. Also not ideal to expect an 18 year-old to play 38 x high intensity 90 minutes if we want him to have a long career.

posted on 31/7/24

I guess we can look at how Mainoo did last season after getting a bad injury in pre season yet still managed to work his way into the starting XI. I know it’s a little different when you’re new to the country and league but if he’s good enough then no harm him getting some action when he’s fit and ready just like Mainoo.

posted on 31/7/24

I’m guessing you’re probably more susceptible to injuries if you’re travelling so much right? I can’t imagine flying thousands of miles is of any benefit to the body?

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 11 minutes ago
Apparently we’re going back to the USA next year too. We just never seem to learn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I can understand doing a tour during a summer in which there’s no international tournaments, but to me this summer’s preseason seems poorly designed. Half the team are here after having played in the Euros and half in the US. That seems daft to me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All about the money / PR machine etc. We're basically a global company, with fans everywhere, so the money men got to be satisfied - just the way it is
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whether you play in the States or go to Scotland, you have to play pre-season games...there is no correlation between playing in the USA and Yoro breaking his foot in a challenge. Hard to point the finger at the money men for this one!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really

You dont need to play high intensity games 1000sof miles away vs Arsenal Liverpool etc. Srtraight aaway to get match fit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What does the distance have to do with a player getting injured...plus it was half the Arsenal first XI against half the Utd first XI. You're more likely to get a kicking from playing a friendly at Blackpool than some faux competitive exhibition State-side
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Its the travelling thatvtakes a tollon players and basic

assimilation from being on a beach to elite atheletes that takes its toll on players untill they get up to speed. Which is why players pick up these injuries on tours especially at badly run clubs like Man united who have a terrible track record in pre season training. Which is what preseasons should be about. Not signing shirts and making money.

posted on 31/7/24

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
If we are devastated about a youth prospect, transfer fee aside, getting injured then our problems are bigger than just ETH.

Yoro was never at 18 years old going to be our starting CB.


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Who our starting cbs? Martinez and Maguire?
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Martinez and De Ligt (who isn't good enough btw) if he signs.

Possibly even Branthwaite (again not a top level CB) if we sign him
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As it stands and based on what we have, he is a contender to be our starting CB. There is no guarantee we are getting these two or any other cb for that matter

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