Not sure if a change in ownership would be very likely for Spurs ATM don't you think? unless you fellahs are hearing rumours that a neutral might not
Also even if there was a change you cannot be certain that it would get any better, you have stability and slight improvement last season so maybe this one will give you more forward momentum, getting to the top echelon of English football is a proper toughie for nearly every team so see what happens next 12 months?
Tottenham can't be sold because the valuation Levy has put on the club is far beyond what anyone has been willing to pay.
They've openly said they are seeking investment but as usual with us the price for seems too high.
I think we are in a position to be purchased. We are in a strong financial position compared to a lot of clubs but the club mentality needs to change in order to attract better players. I think the owners come with a reputation now and it's having an impact on the players we can attract.
The only way Tottenham are ever going to enter a period of winning competitions (anything, the Prem, the FA tin pot, the Euro Champ...) is to get out from under the current management.
Until such a time, this club will continue to be a mid table also ran. Or worse! ........
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posted 6 minutes ago
Tottenham can't be sold because the valuation Levy has put on the club is far beyond what anyone has been willing to pay.
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Rubbish. Levy's initial valuation is just that... an opening bargaining position.
Lewis wants to sell up, given his recent troubles and advancing age.
The time is ripe.
Let us all hope.
Nothing could be worse than the current situation which is best described as "the doldrums".
If we were to get relegated .....that would be something of a shake up!
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Tottenham can't be sold because the valuation Levy has put on the club is far beyond what anyone has been willing to pay.
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Rubbish. Levy's initial valuation is just that... an opening bargaining position.
Lewis wants to sell up, given his recent troubles and advancing age.
The time is ripe.
Let us all hope.
Nothing could be worse than the current situation which is best described as "the doldrums".
If we were to get relegated .....that would be something of a shake up!
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No biters yet and it's been a few years.
If he wants to sell, he might need to leave fantasy land and put an enticing price on the club.
The league seems beyond most clubs atm except City sadly so was wondering, for most Spurs fans would even a cup win loosen the monkey on your back a tad or is it mostly about progression for the both the playing side of things and the club itself, with or without a takeover?
We've needed new owners for years, it's all a bit meh and drenched in apathy until ENIC & Levy fack off.
Hope I am wrong, but it will be another trophyless season and if Ange has a bad start, shipping goals for fun like last season, he will be gone before Xmas.
The only people leaving should be Levy & ENIC.
We need to think bigger and better if we are to eventually turn into title contenders.
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comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
The league seems beyond most clubs atm except City sadly so was wondering, for most Spurs fans would even a cup win loosen the monkey on your back a tad or is it mostly about progression for the both the playing side of things and the club itself, with or without a takeover?
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I think just to be in the title conversation would be nice. Liverpool managed it without spending loads, they are a bigger draw for players and we need to start being so.
I'm glad we are in Europa this year, we may do ok in that, we'd get torn to shreds in champions league I feel.
So in answer to your question, yes a trophy would defo help. But without a change in the clubs mentality I can't see that happening either. Ange has openly said what he needs and we haven't delivered so far.
which players are our rivals signing that have made you feel this way?
Depends on who the new owners are. If it’s someone with a plan to help us challenge for trophies again, a knowledge of what it takes to be successful in this world and the capital to back it up - then yes please.
If it’s Mike Ashley then no faaacking thanks.
We won’t win anything under Enic. It’s not in their ambitions
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posted 27 minutes ago
We won’t win anything under Enic. It’s not in their ambitions
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Sacking Jose a week before the League cup final just so his eventual compensation would not be higher should have been the eye opener - but some still do t want to see.
The problem is whoever wants to purchase will need to cough £2b plus that levy wants and assume they will still be in debt for the stadium and then have to fund players.....
Don't think that's happening very soon and we are stuck with the dark lord for a while yet.
What annoys me is we are being linked strongly with Solanke for £50-60m.... WTF. Sorry got nothing against that lad he's decent good prem player but there's got to be better options out there for less money.
Yeah I get he's proven in the prem but come on.... we may as well keep Ricky and give the youth a go.
comment by JimmyGreaves (U21183)
posted 37 minutes ago
The problem is whoever wants to purchase will need to cough £2b plus that levy wants and assume they will still be in debt for the stadium and then have to fund players.....
Don't think that's happening very soon and we are stuck with the dark lord for a while yet.
What annoys me is we are being linked strongly with Solanke for £50-60m.... WTF. Sorry got nothing against that lad he's decent good prem player but there's got to be better options out there for less money.
Yeah I get he's proven in the prem but come on.... we may as well keep Ricky and give the youth a go.
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Toney will be less money but not necessarily better - just a massive shortage of number 9’s currently unless you are willing to spend big money
Real lack of quality strikers around at the moment. Solanke is a mid table striker who would shine at a club like Everton, West Ham or Palace. Toney is 29 and although better than Solanke isn't the long-term answer.
At Arsenal i think he'd be decent as we don't need too much to succeed but at Spurs i think you might as well stick with Richarlison as Toney isn't that much of an upgrade.
In my view, Spurs need 4 or 5 first team players (not squad filler) to really kick on. You'll need to spend a fortune, or get lucky with prospects, to make this a reality.
Hoping that Levy The Penny sticks to his masterplan of turning you into Hotspurs Entertainment Park rather than a football club with a clear coherent path to success. Keep up the good work Kojak.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
which players are our rivals signing that have made you feel this way?
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anyone got an answer for this? looking at the market and not really seeing which signings aren't achievable for us? nothing above our record transfer fee
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 6 minutes ago
Real lack of quality strikers around at the moment. Solanke is a mid table striker who would shine at a club like Everton, West Ham or Palace. Toney is 29 and although better than Solanke isn't the long-term answer.
At Arsenal i think he'd be decent as we don't need too much to succeed but at Spurs i think you might as well stick with Richarlison as Toney isn't that much of an upgrade.
In my view, Spurs need 4 or 5 first team players (not squad filler) to really kick on. You'll need to spend a fortune, or get lucky with prospects, to make this a reality.
Hoping that Levy The Penny sticks to his masterplan of turning you into Hotspurs Entertainment Park rather than a football club with a clear coherent path to success. Keep up the good work Kojak.
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Solanke scored one fewer goal last season than Toney's best PL season, and scored 3 more non penalty goals than Toney did in his best PL season. and Toney did it for a team that finished 9th Vs Solanke doing it for 12th placed Bournemouth
not really sure how Toney has earned this reputation
regardless we can't just stick with Richy because he's a complete crock who didn't even start half our PL games last season
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 6 minutes ago
Real lack of quality strikers around at the moment. Solanke is a mid table striker who would shine at a club like Everton, West Ham or Palace. Toney is 29 and although better than Solanke isn't the long-term answer.
At Arsenal i think he'd be decent as we don't need too much to succeed but at Spurs i think you might as well stick with Richarlison as Toney isn't that much of an upgrade.
In my view, Spurs need 4 or 5 first team players (not squad filler) to really kick on. You'll need to spend a fortune, or get lucky with prospects, to make this a reality.
Hoping that Levy The Penny sticks to his masterplan of turning you into Hotspurs Entertainment Park rather than a football club with a clear coherent path to success. Keep up the good work Kojak.
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Solanke scored one fewer goal last season than Toney's best PL season, and scored 3 more non penalty goals than Toney did in his best PL season. and Toney did it for a team that finished 9th Vs Solanke doing it for 12th placed Bournemouth
not really sure how Toney has earned this reputation
regardless we can't just stick with Richy because he's a complete crock who didn't even start half our PL games last season
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Solanke has only had 1 good scoring season whilst Toney has had several. Solanke is only 25 (i think) so perhaps he's finally come of age and will now be more consistent in front of goal. Or he could be a 1 season wonder - who knows? With Toney i think you pretty much know what you are going to get so less of a gamble.
has Toney had several?
3 premier league seasons
7 non penalty goals
14 non penalty goals
4 non penalty goals
meanwhile Solanke
6 non penalty goals
17 non penalty goals
obviously Toney is the better penalty taker - 95% success rate vs Solanke's 85% success rate
so let's say we win 8 penalties next season, means Toney would probably go 8/8 Vs Solanke's 7/8
It is obvious in my eyes we are not spending in order to be more valuable to investors. The lewis trust are going, i am not convinced Levy is going.
You have to be asking the questions.
When we were in the position to strike PSR wise why didnt we? That gap is going down by the way.
Why are we selling players undervalued in comprison to premier league and championship clubs?
Why is our wage bill so low, below villa, newcastle and west ham?
Why are we selling players undervalued in comprison to premier league and championship clubs?
because nobody is offering us more money for them
Why is our wage bill so low, below villa, newcastle and west ham?
it isn't, please provide a source for this because I can't find one.
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/wages/Premier-League-Wages
https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
even the Mail (which I'm not going to link) has us above Newcastle and West Ham
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
which players are our rivals signing that have made you feel this way?
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anyone got an answer for this? looking at the market and not really seeing which signings aren't achievable for us? nothing above our record transfer fee
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It’s an irrelevant question.
The question should be which of our rivals have strengthened this window, to which I would say:
Arsenal - Calafiori
United - Yoro, zirkzee
West Ham - Fulkrug, Kilman
And sure we might not have wanted those players - but the United and West Ham players in particular improve those 2 teams which is a worry as both finished behind us last year and we still haven’t strengthened our first 11
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posted on 6/8/24
Not sure if a change in ownership would be very likely for Spurs ATM don't you think? unless you fellahs are hearing rumours that a neutral might not
Also even if there was a change you cannot be certain that it would get any better, you have stability and slight improvement last season so maybe this one will give you more forward momentum, getting to the top echelon of English football is a proper toughie for nearly every team so see what happens next 12 months?
posted on 6/8/24
Tottenham can't be sold because the valuation Levy has put on the club is far beyond what anyone has been willing to pay.
posted on 6/8/24
They've openly said they are seeking investment but as usual with us the price for seems too high.
I think we are in a position to be purchased. We are in a strong financial position compared to a lot of clubs but the club mentality needs to change in order to attract better players. I think the owners come with a reputation now and it's having an impact on the players we can attract.
posted on 6/8/24
The only way Tottenham are ever going to enter a period of winning competitions (anything, the Prem, the FA tin pot, the Euro Champ...) is to get out from under the current management.
Until such a time, this club will continue to be a mid table also ran. Or worse! ........
posted on 6/8/24
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Tottenham can't be sold because the valuation Levy has put on the club is far beyond what anyone has been willing to pay.
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Rubbish. Levy's initial valuation is just that... an opening bargaining position.
Lewis wants to sell up, given his recent troubles and advancing age.
The time is ripe.
Let us all hope.
Nothing could be worse than the current situation which is best described as "the doldrums".
If we were to get relegated .....that would be something of a shake up!
posted on 6/8/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Tottenham can't be sold because the valuation Levy has put on the club is far beyond what anyone has been willing to pay.
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Rubbish. Levy's initial valuation is just that... an opening bargaining position.
Lewis wants to sell up, given his recent troubles and advancing age.
The time is ripe.
Let us all hope.
Nothing could be worse than the current situation which is best described as "the doldrums".
If we were to get relegated .....that would be something of a shake up!
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No biters yet and it's been a few years.
If he wants to sell, he might need to leave fantasy land and put an enticing price on the club.
posted on 6/8/24
The league seems beyond most clubs atm except City sadly so was wondering, for most Spurs fans would even a cup win loosen the monkey on your back a tad or is it mostly about progression for the both the playing side of things and the club itself, with or without a takeover?
posted on 6/8/24
We've needed new owners for years, it's all a bit meh and drenched in apathy until ENIC & Levy fack off.
Hope I am wrong, but it will be another trophyless season and if Ange has a bad start, shipping goals for fun like last season, he will be gone before Xmas.
The only people leaving should be Levy & ENIC.
posted on 6/8/24
We need to think bigger and better if we are to eventually turn into title contenders.
===
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
The league seems beyond most clubs atm except City sadly so was wondering, for most Spurs fans would even a cup win loosen the monkey on your back a tad or is it mostly about progression for the both the playing side of things and the club itself, with or without a takeover?
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I think just to be in the title conversation would be nice. Liverpool managed it without spending loads, they are a bigger draw for players and we need to start being so.
I'm glad we are in Europa this year, we may do ok in that, we'd get torn to shreds in champions league I feel.
So in answer to your question, yes a trophy would defo help. But without a change in the clubs mentality I can't see that happening either. Ange has openly said what he needs and we haven't delivered so far.
posted on 6/8/24
which players are our rivals signing that have made you feel this way?
posted on 6/8/24
Depends on who the new owners are. If it’s someone with a plan to help us challenge for trophies again, a knowledge of what it takes to be successful in this world and the capital to back it up - then yes please.
If it’s Mike Ashley then no faaacking thanks.
posted on 6/8/24
We won’t win anything under Enic. It’s not in their ambitions
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 27 minutes ago
We won’t win anything under Enic. It’s not in their ambitions
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Sacking Jose a week before the League cup final just so his eventual compensation would not be higher should have been the eye opener - but some still do t want to see.
posted on 6/8/24
The problem is whoever wants to purchase will need to cough £2b plus that levy wants and assume they will still be in debt for the stadium and then have to fund players.....
Don't think that's happening very soon and we are stuck with the dark lord for a while yet.
What annoys me is we are being linked strongly with Solanke for £50-60m.... WTF. Sorry got nothing against that lad he's decent good prem player but there's got to be better options out there for less money.
Yeah I get he's proven in the prem but come on.... we may as well keep Ricky and give the youth a go.
posted on 6/8/24
comment by JimmyGreaves (U21183)
posted 37 minutes ago
The problem is whoever wants to purchase will need to cough £2b plus that levy wants and assume they will still be in debt for the stadium and then have to fund players.....
Don't think that's happening very soon and we are stuck with the dark lord for a while yet.
What annoys me is we are being linked strongly with Solanke for £50-60m.... WTF. Sorry got nothing against that lad he's decent good prem player but there's got to be better options out there for less money.
Yeah I get he's proven in the prem but come on.... we may as well keep Ricky and give the youth a go.
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Toney will be less money but not necessarily better - just a massive shortage of number 9’s currently unless you are willing to spend big money
posted on 6/8/24
Real lack of quality strikers around at the moment. Solanke is a mid table striker who would shine at a club like Everton, West Ham or Palace. Toney is 29 and although better than Solanke isn't the long-term answer.
At Arsenal i think he'd be decent as we don't need too much to succeed but at Spurs i think you might as well stick with Richarlison as Toney isn't that much of an upgrade.
In my view, Spurs need 4 or 5 first team players (not squad filler) to really kick on. You'll need to spend a fortune, or get lucky with prospects, to make this a reality.
Hoping that Levy The Penny sticks to his masterplan of turning you into Hotspurs Entertainment Park rather than a football club with a clear coherent path to success. Keep up the good work Kojak.
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
which players are our rivals signing that have made you feel this way?
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anyone got an answer for this? looking at the market and not really seeing which signings aren't achievable for us? nothing above our record transfer fee
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 6 minutes ago
Real lack of quality strikers around at the moment. Solanke is a mid table striker who would shine at a club like Everton, West Ham or Palace. Toney is 29 and although better than Solanke isn't the long-term answer.
At Arsenal i think he'd be decent as we don't need too much to succeed but at Spurs i think you might as well stick with Richarlison as Toney isn't that much of an upgrade.
In my view, Spurs need 4 or 5 first team players (not squad filler) to really kick on. You'll need to spend a fortune, or get lucky with prospects, to make this a reality.
Hoping that Levy The Penny sticks to his masterplan of turning you into Hotspurs Entertainment Park rather than a football club with a clear coherent path to success. Keep up the good work Kojak.
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Solanke scored one fewer goal last season than Toney's best PL season, and scored 3 more non penalty goals than Toney did in his best PL season. and Toney did it for a team that finished 9th Vs Solanke doing it for 12th placed Bournemouth
not really sure how Toney has earned this reputation
regardless we can't just stick with Richy because he's a complete crock who didn't even start half our PL games last season
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 6 minutes ago
Real lack of quality strikers around at the moment. Solanke is a mid table striker who would shine at a club like Everton, West Ham or Palace. Toney is 29 and although better than Solanke isn't the long-term answer.
At Arsenal i think he'd be decent as we don't need too much to succeed but at Spurs i think you might as well stick with Richarlison as Toney isn't that much of an upgrade.
In my view, Spurs need 4 or 5 first team players (not squad filler) to really kick on. You'll need to spend a fortune, or get lucky with prospects, to make this a reality.
Hoping that Levy The Penny sticks to his masterplan of turning you into Hotspurs Entertainment Park rather than a football club with a clear coherent path to success. Keep up the good work Kojak.
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Solanke scored one fewer goal last season than Toney's best PL season, and scored 3 more non penalty goals than Toney did in his best PL season. and Toney did it for a team that finished 9th Vs Solanke doing it for 12th placed Bournemouth
not really sure how Toney has earned this reputation
regardless we can't just stick with Richy because he's a complete crock who didn't even start half our PL games last season
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Solanke has only had 1 good scoring season whilst Toney has had several. Solanke is only 25 (i think) so perhaps he's finally come of age and will now be more consistent in front of goal. Or he could be a 1 season wonder - who knows? With Toney i think you pretty much know what you are going to get so less of a gamble.
posted on 6/8/24
has Toney had several?
3 premier league seasons
7 non penalty goals
14 non penalty goals
4 non penalty goals
meanwhile Solanke
6 non penalty goals
17 non penalty goals
posted on 6/8/24
obviously Toney is the better penalty taker - 95% success rate vs Solanke's 85% success rate
so let's say we win 8 penalties next season, means Toney would probably go 8/8 Vs Solanke's 7/8
posted on 6/8/24
It is obvious in my eyes we are not spending in order to be more valuable to investors. The lewis trust are going, i am not convinced Levy is going.
You have to be asking the questions.
When we were in the position to strike PSR wise why didnt we? That gap is going down by the way.
Why are we selling players undervalued in comprison to premier league and championship clubs?
Why is our wage bill so low, below villa, newcastle and west ham?
posted on 6/8/24
Why are we selling players undervalued in comprison to premier league and championship clubs?
because nobody is offering us more money for them
Why is our wage bill so low, below villa, newcastle and west ham?
it isn't, please provide a source for this because I can't find one.
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/wages/Premier-League-Wages
https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
even the Mail (which I'm not going to link) has us above Newcastle and West Ham
posted on 6/8/24
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
which players are our rivals signing that have made you feel this way?
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anyone got an answer for this? looking at the market and not really seeing which signings aren't achievable for us? nothing above our record transfer fee
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It’s an irrelevant question.
The question should be which of our rivals have strengthened this window, to which I would say:
Arsenal - Calafiori
United - Yoro, zirkzee
West Ham - Fulkrug, Kilman
And sure we might not have wanted those players - but the United and West Ham players in particular improve those 2 teams which is a worry as both finished behind us last year and we still haven’t strengthened our first 11
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