“you don’t win anything with kids”
Besides he already dropped Kulusevski for BJ, and look how that turned out.
In the league you surely have to go with your strongest 11, the kids can get their opportunities in the domestic cups and ropey league group games
Paywall.
Wait, you subscribe to the Daily Mail?
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 50 seconds ago
In the league you surely have to go with your strongest 11, the kids can get their opportunities in the domestic cups and ropey league group games
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Yeah but the problem is, I'm not entirely sure that there's a great deal of difference between our first team and those talented lads coming through. Bergvall and Gray I think will be first 11 players before too long. I don't think we have many true standouts anymore. The second string isn't a great worse than the first.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 32 seconds ago
In the league you surely have to go with your strongest 11, the kids can get their opportunities in the domestic cups and ropey league group games
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Not sure thats true.... Play the guys that perform the best and do what the manager wants them to do.... Regardless of age.
I remember Sherwood getting a lot of stick as Spurs manager but I seem to remember him putting a young Harry Kane into the team
My overall point being.... We don't have glorious trophy filled recent history so why not actually play and back these kids we sign.... might just help us in the long term
Maybe I'm wrong ?
I’m sure they’ll get their chance.
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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We also have a far better chance of actually winning the Cups or Ropey league than we do the PL
Every game is important... dont see why we need to downplay cup comps as simply an opportunity to give "kids" game time
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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Don't agree..... Bergvall and Gray were deemed good enough to come on Monday night in a high profile fixture an attempt to win the game. I see no reason at all why one or both couldn't start on Sat. Ange was pretty angry with the performance .... Why not start these two and prove there's real competition for places.... Thats how you get better
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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Don't agree..... Bergvall and Gray were deemed good enough to come on Monday night in a high profile fixture an attempt to win the game. I see no reason at all why one or both couldn't start on Sat. Ange was pretty angry with the performance .... Why not start these two and prove there's real competition for places.... Thats how you get better
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So Bergvall for Maddison and Gray for Bentancur is that how you see it, would be interesting
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 53 minutes ago
We also have a far better chance of actually winning the Cups or Ropey league than we do the PL
Every game is important... dont see why we need to downplay cup comps as simply an opportunity to give "kids" game time
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Not under Ange we do not sadly.
Just need to hope the change comes before the Carabao Cup third round.
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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Don't agree..... Bergvall and Gray were deemed good enough to come on Monday night in a high profile fixture an attempt to win the game. I see no reason at all why one or both couldn't start on Sat. Ange was pretty angry with the performance .... Why not start these two and prove there's real competition for places.... Thats how you get better
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So Bergvall for Maddison and Gray for Bentancur is that how you see it, would be interesting
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wont know till we try it !
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 53 minutes ago
We also have a far better chance of actually winning the Cups or Ropey league than we do the PL
Every game is important... dont see why we need to downplay cup comps as simply an opportunity to give "kids" game time
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Not under Ange we do not sadly.
Just need to hope the change comes before the Carabao Cup third round.
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Are we still going to sign KWP? You were adamant we would.
How much have you spent this summer
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
How much have you spent this summer
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Google it and don't be lazy
I like what we are doing in the market.
The signings look quality and although may be not ready to challenge now, in a season or 2 they should be.
It was always going to take us a bit of time to revamp this squad and that would not produce instant results. So as we develop and progress its exciting that these younget players will be around for quite some time and hopefully key to future successes.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
How much have you spent this summer
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£73Million net spend according to Luka.
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comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
I like what we are doing in the market.
The signings look quality and although may be not ready to challenge now, in a season or 2 they should be.
It was always going to take us a bit of time to revamp this squad and that would not produce instant results. So as we develop and progress its exciting that these younget players will be around for quite some time and hopefully key to future successes.
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Bergvall looks good and potential.
Solanke isn’t quality. He could be decent.
Odobert? Punt
Archie Gray? Not ready. Should be on a loan for this season.
There’s still two weeks left so anything can happen but you’re kidding yourself if you wanted what we’ve done this window.
We’ve basically got an average (8th-5th) squad and an average manager.
The levels of delusion are very high at the moment. Probably a coping strategy.
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Ya know what......I'm gonna trust the judgement of our transfer team over your assessment.
I mean Archie Gray "not ready" after a half hour debut. That's some rapid judgement you've dished out.
I'm gonna trust the judgement of our transfer team
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comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
We’ve spent more than any other team in Ange’s tenure so far.
We’re shopping in Lidl and paying M&S prices
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Apart from Bergvall's low fee this is pretty much spot on. It's a sign of we are and what we are trying to achieve I guess.
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
I like what we are doing in the market.
The signings look quality and although may be not ready to challenge now, in a season or 2 they should be.
It was always going to take us a bit of time to revamp this squad and that would not produce instant results. So as we develop and progress its exciting that these younget players will be around for quite some time and hopefully key to future successes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bergvall looks good and potential.
Solanke isn’t quality. He could be decent.
Odobert? Punt
Archie Gray? Not ready. Should be on a loan for this season.
There’s still two weeks left so anything can happen but you’re kidding yourself if you wanted what we’ve done this window.
We’ve basically got an average (8th-5th) squad and an average manager.
The levels of delusion are very high at the moment. Probably a coping strategy.
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Ya know what......I'm gonna trust the judgement of our transfer team over your assessment.
I mean Archie Gray "not ready" after a half hour debut. That's some rapid judgement you've dished out.
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Based on BJ, Solomon, Veliz, Werner, Solanke (he’s going to be ok but not next level) I wouldn’t trust our recruitment team.
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Ok but don't forget Sarr, Udogie, Micky, Vic and a few others.
Try to give both side of the coin instead of using just the 'flops' regarding the recruitment team.
You are good at putting on a negative spin on everything. I'll give you that.
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posted on 21/8/24
“you don’t win anything with kids”
Besides he already dropped Kulusevski for BJ, and look how that turned out.
posted on 21/8/24
In the league you surely have to go with your strongest 11, the kids can get their opportunities in the domestic cups and ropey league group games
posted on 21/8/24
Paywall.
Wait, you subscribe to the Daily Mail?
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 50 seconds ago
In the league you surely have to go with your strongest 11, the kids can get their opportunities in the domestic cups and ropey league group games
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Yeah but the problem is, I'm not entirely sure that there's a great deal of difference between our first team and those talented lads coming through. Bergvall and Gray I think will be first 11 players before too long. I don't think we have many true standouts anymore. The second string isn't a great worse than the first.
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 32 seconds ago
In the league you surely have to go with your strongest 11, the kids can get their opportunities in the domestic cups and ropey league group games
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Not sure thats true.... Play the guys that perform the best and do what the manager wants them to do.... Regardless of age.
I remember Sherwood getting a lot of stick as Spurs manager but I seem to remember him putting a young Harry Kane into the team
My overall point being.... We don't have glorious trophy filled recent history so why not actually play and back these kids we sign.... might just help us in the long term
Maybe I'm wrong ?
posted on 21/8/24
I’m sure they’ll get their chance.
posted on 21/8/24
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
posted on 21/8/24
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posted on 21/8/24
We also have a far better chance of actually winning the Cups or Ropey league than we do the PL
Every game is important... dont see why we need to downplay cup comps as simply an opportunity to give "kids" game time
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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Don't agree..... Bergvall and Gray were deemed good enough to come on Monday night in a high profile fixture an attempt to win the game. I see no reason at all why one or both couldn't start on Sat. Ange was pretty angry with the performance .... Why not start these two and prove there's real competition for places.... Thats how you get better
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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Don't agree..... Bergvall and Gray were deemed good enough to come on Monday night in a high profile fixture an attempt to win the game. I see no reason at all why one or both couldn't start on Sat. Ange was pretty angry with the performance .... Why not start these two and prove there's real competition for places.... Thats how you get better
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So Bergvall for Maddison and Gray for Bentancur is that how you see it, would be interesting
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 53 minutes ago
We also have a far better chance of actually winning the Cups or Ropey league than we do the PL
Every game is important... dont see why we need to downplay cup comps as simply an opportunity to give "kids" game time
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Not under Ange we do not sadly.
Just need to hope the change comes before the Carabao Cup third round.
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes it's great but the like of Gray and Bergvall need time to adjust to the premier league they shouldn't be starting games atm
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Don't agree..... Bergvall and Gray were deemed good enough to come on Monday night in a high profile fixture an attempt to win the game. I see no reason at all why one or both couldn't start on Sat. Ange was pretty angry with the performance .... Why not start these two and prove there's real competition for places.... Thats how you get better
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So Bergvall for Maddison and Gray for Bentancur is that how you see it, would be interesting
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wont know till we try it !
posted on 21/8/24
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 53 minutes ago
We also have a far better chance of actually winning the Cups or Ropey league than we do the PL
Every game is important... dont see why we need to downplay cup comps as simply an opportunity to give "kids" game time
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Not under Ange we do not sadly.
Just need to hope the change comes before the Carabao Cup third round.
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Are we still going to sign KWP? You were adamant we would.
posted on 21/8/24
How much have you spent this summer
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
How much have you spent this summer
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Google it and don't be lazy
posted on 21/8/24
I like what we are doing in the market.
The signings look quality and although may be not ready to challenge now, in a season or 2 they should be.
It was always going to take us a bit of time to revamp this squad and that would not produce instant results. So as we develop and progress its exciting that these younget players will be around for quite some time and hopefully key to future successes.
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
How much have you spent this summer
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£73Million net spend according to Luka.
posted on 21/8/24
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posted on 21/8/24
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posted on 21/8/24
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
I like what we are doing in the market.
The signings look quality and although may be not ready to challenge now, in a season or 2 they should be.
It was always going to take us a bit of time to revamp this squad and that would not produce instant results. So as we develop and progress its exciting that these younget players will be around for quite some time and hopefully key to future successes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bergvall looks good and potential.
Solanke isn’t quality. He could be decent.
Odobert? Punt
Archie Gray? Not ready. Should be on a loan for this season.
There’s still two weeks left so anything can happen but you’re kidding yourself if you wanted what we’ve done this window.
We’ve basically got an average (8th-5th) squad and an average manager.
The levels of delusion are very high at the moment. Probably a coping strategy.
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Ya know what......I'm gonna trust the judgement of our transfer team over your assessment.
I mean Archie Gray "not ready" after a half hour debut. That's some rapid judgement you've dished out.
posted on 21/8/24
I'm gonna trust the judgement of our transfer team
===
posted on 21/8/24
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posted on 21/8/24
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
We’ve spent more than any other team in Ange’s tenure so far.
We’re shopping in Lidl and paying M&S prices
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Apart from Bergvall's low fee this is pretty much spot on. It's a sign of we are and what we are trying to achieve I guess.
posted on 21/8/24
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
I like what we are doing in the market.
The signings look quality and although may be not ready to challenge now, in a season or 2 they should be.
It was always going to take us a bit of time to revamp this squad and that would not produce instant results. So as we develop and progress its exciting that these younget players will be around for quite some time and hopefully key to future successes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bergvall looks good and potential.
Solanke isn’t quality. He could be decent.
Odobert? Punt
Archie Gray? Not ready. Should be on a loan for this season.
There’s still two weeks left so anything can happen but you’re kidding yourself if you wanted what we’ve done this window.
We’ve basically got an average (8th-5th) squad and an average manager.
The levels of delusion are very high at the moment. Probably a coping strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ya know what......I'm gonna trust the judgement of our transfer team over your assessment.
I mean Archie Gray "not ready" after a half hour debut. That's some rapid judgement you've dished out.
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Based on BJ, Solomon, Veliz, Werner, Solanke (he’s going to be ok but not next level) I wouldn’t trust our recruitment team.
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Ok but don't forget Sarr, Udogie, Micky, Vic and a few others.
Try to give both side of the coin instead of using just the 'flops' regarding the recruitment team.
You are good at putting on a negative spin on everything. I'll give you that.
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