comment by Dennis. (U23086)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor50Years (U6871)
posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
I’ve got a generally dim view of Meslier, but (ignoring the two dodgy passes) I thought he had his best game for ages today. Incredible reactions and a strong hand for the save of the powerful shot early on.

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the problem is that people make assessments on saves, yes he made one save but the rest of his all round play was awful. Try to look deeper, look at his distribution, his ball to feet, look at his command of the area, look at his relationship with the rest of the defensive group, look at how his mistakes impact those around him and how they respond to him, Ampadu and Rodon were both screaming at him yesterday, Rodon makes errors because he doesn't trust him. Too many basic issues and he never irons them out.
A goalkeeper's role isn't just about making saves.
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Not gonna say you're wrong, cos those comments are clearly what YOU see.
Have to say I, personally, don't see the same.
I see that he probably saved 2 goals.
He wasn't perfect for the rest of the game, agree, but neither was the defence collectively.
But those imperfections collectively didnt look like creating a two goal risk level, nothing near it.

Thats why some comments appear to someone with my perception, as being of a negative personal bias, irrespective of performances like yesterday.

Looking at Meslier's girlfriend I suspect his mind is on other things....Lucky blighter!

And although some people don't like these Xg stats, as a general measure it's interesting that Leeds have faced just 0.94 xG in open play in the Championship in four games this season, the fewest of any EFL side so far in 2024-25.

And, Leeds have more league clean sheets than any other EFL side in 2024-25 (three in four games).

So, irrespective of what we individually think of Meslier, Rodon, Strujk, Bogle or Firpo, from a defensive perspective, they must be doing something right ....



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.....so far 😬

So, irrespective of what we individually think of Meslier, Rodon, Strujk, Bogle or Firpo, from a defensive perspective, they must be doing something right ....

^^^

Yep.

However,

I think it's more about...

Rodon, Strujk, Bogle and Firpo

than it is Meslier.

So

well done

Rodon, Strujk, Bogle and Firpo

comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 4 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Dennis. (U23086)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor50Years (U6871)
posted 16 hours, 4 minutes ago
I’ve got a generally dim view of Meslier, but (ignoring the two dodgy passes) I thought he had his best game for ages today. Incredible reactions and a strong hand for the save of the powerful shot early on.

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the problem is that people make assessments on saves, yes he made one save but the rest of his all round play was awful. Try to look deeper, look at his distribution, his ball to feet, look at his command of the area, look at his relationship with the rest of the defensive group, look at how his mistakes impact those around him and how they respond to him, Ampadu and Rodon were both screaming at him yesterday, Rodon makes errors because he doesn't trust him. Too many basic issues and he never irons them out.
A goalkeeper's role isn't just about making saves.
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Not gonna say you're wrong, cos those comments are clearly what YOU see.
Have to say I, personally, don't see the same.
I see that he probably saved 2 goals.
He wasn't perfect for the rest of the game, agree, but neither was the defence collectively.
But those imperfections collectively didnt look like creating a two goal risk level, nothing near it.

Thats why some comments appear to someone with my perception, as being of a negative personal bias, irrespective of performances like yesterday.


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Not just my perspective but the stats back me up. Goals conceded are one thing and his defence bailed him out big time last season, but he rates 33rd of all keepers used last season.
I'm not sure what other people are seeing.

https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/2023-2024/keepers/2023-2024-Championship-Stats

Dennis

When you try to be clever and start using stats, to back up your view, its a good idea to actually understand stats, you absolute melt.

He’s 33 on that list because its in alphabetical order 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈😭🙈🙈🙈🙈😭😭😭🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

Ooops.

Maybe this might help

https://everybodysoccer.com/even-the-goalkeepers-like-to/2021/1/9/the-worlds-top-24-goalkeepers-under-24

comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 21 hours, 7 minutes ago
So, irrespective of what we individually think of Meslier, Rodon, Strujk, Bogle or Firpo, from a defensive perspective, they must be doing something right ....

^^^

Yep.

However,

I think it's more about...

Rodon, Strujk, Bogle and Firpo

than it is Meslier.

So

well done

Rodon, Strujk, Bogle and Firpo



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None of those made that fabulous save first half.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 21 hours, 7 minutes ago
So, irrespective of what we individually think of Meslier, Rodon, Strujk, Bogle or Firpo, from a defensive perspective, they must be doing something right ....

^^^

Yep.

However,

I think it's more about...

Rodon, Strujk, Bogle and Firpo

than it is Meslier.

So

well done

Rodon, Strujk, Bogle and Firpo



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None of those made that fabulous save first half.
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Was a nice save…but what about the no call by the ref for the foul on Rodon. Decisions like that can change the course of the game, so even more important Meslier saves it.