I'm glad it's not just me.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
We also finished 5th that year.
Tbf Im likely wide of the mark a bit with Klopp I guess, but then we weren’t letting in over 60 league goals a season either.
There’s high lines, and there’s high lines.
If you don’t feel that’s a quite obvious system error, then fair enough.
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As per my response to sizzle below....that high line became a problem when Romero didnt get the basics right. We've let in 3 goals, all very different. In the build up to Isaks, we had NUFC pinned back, camped on the edge of their area had a lot of successful turnovers in their half from a high press. That is only really possible from a high line. We should have made more of those opportunities. We were 1-1 and pushing for a win and i have no issue with that.
May be if we take the lead then things become more circumspect, the press eases off and we hold what we have a bit more.
But the high line had allowed us to take almost full control and while that comes with a risk, it demands that the basics are done well, and they were not.
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Thing is, he’s quite handy at the other end of the pitch, often pops up with a goal!
Also think he’s one of our few battlers who likes to get stuck in.
Basically I don’t want him dropped because he’s my favourite player!
I think a lot of the analysis of the goals have been wrong this season in my opinion:
1. Vardy goal, the fault was with Udogie for letting a man get an uncontested cross in within the penalty box without any real challenge.
Romero after making the effort to cover Porro for the first cross, makes the effort to get into the traditional shape for the cross. He probably should have stayed with Vardy but that scenario should have never occured in the first place.
2. Pressuring high for the throwin, he does that a lot and its the same thing that led to him scoring vs Arsenal or Villa etc.
If we can't compensate for a player being out of position from a throw-in which then costs us a from the halfway line then something is seriously wrong with the team.
3. You could similarly argue that Dragusin played Isak on and if he had followed Romero with playing the offside trap then the goal wouldn't have occured. Its just a lack of reps between both CB partners meaning they were trying different things.
The bigger issue was the fact that we had committed to such an aggressive press that Maddison HAD to make the challenge on Joelinton and couldn't tactically foul in that situation.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 minutes ago
Basically I don’t want him dropped because he’s my favourite player!
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Oh me too. He should and could be awesome and between him and VDV that should be a beautiful partnership with complementary skill sets . Cut out the simple errors and we've let in 1 in 3 and have 7 points from 9.
The high line also isn't an issue, its about how we adapt to the system. We played a higher line under Poch successfully, our team was better set up to stop any counters & teams are better suited at exploiting high lines.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 34 minutes ago
I think a lot of the analysis of the goals have been wrong this season in my opinion:
1. Vardy goal, the fault was with Udogie for letting a man get an uncontested cross in within the penalty box without any real challenge.
Romero after making the effort to cover Porro for the first cross, makes the effort to get into the traditional shape for the cross. He probably should have stayed with Vardy but that scenario should have never occured in the first place.
2. Pressuring high for the throwin, he does that a lot and its the same thing that led to him scoring vs Arsenal or Villa etc.
If we can't compensate for a player being out of position from a throw-in which then costs us a from the halfway line then something is seriously wrong with the team.
3. You could similarly argue that Dragusin played Isak on and if he had followed Romero with playing the offside trap then the goal wouldn't have occured. Its just a lack of reps between both CB partners meaning they were trying different things.
The bigger issue was the fact that we had committed to such an aggressive press that Maddison HAD to make the challenge on Joelinton and couldn't tactically foul in that situation.
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Basically the best analysis I’ve seen for a long time on here
I blame Aussieglue for the second goal.
Everybody was on the halfway line.
And VDV was not playing.
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posted on 4/9/24
I'm glad it's not just me.
posted on 4/9/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
We also finished 5th that year.
Tbf Im likely wide of the mark a bit with Klopp I guess, but then we weren’t letting in over 60 league goals a season either.
There’s high lines, and there’s high lines.
If you don’t feel that’s a quite obvious system error, then fair enough.
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As per my response to sizzle below....that high line became a problem when Romero didnt get the basics right. We've let in 3 goals, all very different. In the build up to Isaks, we had NUFC pinned back, camped on the edge of their area had a lot of successful turnovers in their half from a high press. That is only really possible from a high line. We should have made more of those opportunities. We were 1-1 and pushing for a win and i have no issue with that.
May be if we take the lead then things become more circumspect, the press eases off and we hold what we have a bit more.
But the high line had allowed us to take almost full control and while that comes with a risk, it demands that the basics are done well, and they were not.
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Thing is, he’s quite handy at the other end of the pitch, often pops up with a goal!
Also think he’s one of our few battlers who likes to get stuck in.
posted on 4/9/24
Basically I don’t want him dropped because he’s my favourite player!
posted on 4/9/24
I think a lot of the analysis of the goals have been wrong this season in my opinion:
1. Vardy goal, the fault was with Udogie for letting a man get an uncontested cross in within the penalty box without any real challenge.
Romero after making the effort to cover Porro for the first cross, makes the effort to get into the traditional shape for the cross. He probably should have stayed with Vardy but that scenario should have never occured in the first place.
2. Pressuring high for the throwin, he does that a lot and its the same thing that led to him scoring vs Arsenal or Villa etc.
If we can't compensate for a player being out of position from a throw-in which then costs us a from the halfway line then something is seriously wrong with the team.
3. You could similarly argue that Dragusin played Isak on and if he had followed Romero with playing the offside trap then the goal wouldn't have occured. Its just a lack of reps between both CB partners meaning they were trying different things.
The bigger issue was the fact that we had committed to such an aggressive press that Maddison HAD to make the challenge on Joelinton and couldn't tactically foul in that situation.
posted on 4/9/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 minutes ago
Basically I don’t want him dropped because he’s my favourite player!
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Oh me too. He should and could be awesome and between him and VDV that should be a beautiful partnership with complementary skill sets . Cut out the simple errors and we've let in 1 in 3 and have 7 points from 9.
posted on 4/9/24
The high line also isn't an issue, its about how we adapt to the system. We played a higher line under Poch successfully, our team was better set up to stop any counters & teams are better suited at exploiting high lines.
posted on 4/9/24
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 34 minutes ago
I think a lot of the analysis of the goals have been wrong this season in my opinion:
1. Vardy goal, the fault was with Udogie for letting a man get an uncontested cross in within the penalty box without any real challenge.
Romero after making the effort to cover Porro for the first cross, makes the effort to get into the traditional shape for the cross. He probably should have stayed with Vardy but that scenario should have never occured in the first place.
2. Pressuring high for the throwin, he does that a lot and its the same thing that led to him scoring vs Arsenal or Villa etc.
If we can't compensate for a player being out of position from a throw-in which then costs us a from the halfway line then something is seriously wrong with the team.
3. You could similarly argue that Dragusin played Isak on and if he had followed Romero with playing the offside trap then the goal wouldn't have occured. Its just a lack of reps between both CB partners meaning they were trying different things.
The bigger issue was the fact that we had committed to such an aggressive press that Maddison HAD to make the challenge on Joelinton and couldn't tactically foul in that situation.
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Basically the best analysis I’ve seen for a long time on here
posted on 4/9/24
I blame Aussieglue for the second goal.
Everybody was on the halfway line.
And VDV was not playing.
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