comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted about 4 hours ago
FWIW, I also think the SPFL might be at it with the fixtures to create swings at the top. They did the same last year and arguably it worked for them though injuries and other team dynamics play as big a part but first round Rangers have Hearts, Aberdeen & Killie away, Celtic have them at home - 3x banana skins, it seems too contrived?
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Agreed, then add TV scheduling. Last weekend Rangers get the earliest possible time to play after a Thursday game and Celtic get the latest time with a game on the Tuesday. Upsets sell TV subscriptions.
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Just saw this story about Diarra. SILVER, will this affect the player trading model Celtic has? Any effect?
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I've been busy and only seen the headlines and not dug deeper into the ramifications. At a high level, I think it is unreasonable from an employer perspective for an employee to force a dismissal via deliberate misconduct. Of course, for the vast majority of 'regular' employees on 1,2,3,6 month notice periods this isn't a major issue but for players who tend to be the highest earners and most key employees at a club / company still with 1,2,3,4 years to run it becomes more morally complex.
Of MUCH more interest to me is the case of FC Swift Hesperange (Lux) v UEFA. I've searched but cannot see update since 2 years - if anyone is smarter on Google please enlighten me! They were / are arguing that not allowing teams to play under any jurisdiction FA is a violation of competition law.
Their argument is supported by both historical and geographical anomalies like Monaco, Wales, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Berwick but also a tiny country like theirs (pop. 650k) struggle to fulfil homegrown quotas from such a small catchment so is unfair. We all know it is.
So HUGE ramifications for countries like ours. I know this site is divided on keeping the SPFL or being able to play in England but I have long been a supporter of the latter. I see it as inevitable assuming no major changes in the world order.. Let's be honest, if you were starting from scratch now, would you organise soccer along country lines? No, you would go down the US franchise model to maximise financial return.
Now, obviously I am close to how thing work over there - good and bad - but it's no surprise the failed ESL bid was driven by US money analysts that can see that UEFA are failing to achieve the earnings multiples that US sports do.
Now the controversial bit - I can see the MLS become a force! We all know by and large performance correlates with money. See revenue below - all €
EPL 10bn
La Liga 4.4bn
Bundesliga 3.6bn
Serie A 2.9bn
Ligue 1 2.4bn
MLS 1.9bn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue
Actually, look at the list and thanks to two Glasgow clubs the SPFL is punching!
Anyhow, MLS is not gonna dominate anything in my lifetime. But most of us have witnessed a few false dawns over there but they are firmly established now with mass participation and growing supporter base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance
Majority of clubs at capacity - I consider anything >90% virtually at capacity. Added, every review there are cities up and down the country bidding to enter a franchise with the whole thing growing.
I digress - my point is whether it is legal arguments or competition from the US, eventually Europe will have to change structures. Why not sooner rather than later? A 75-80k CP, ditto Ibrox, playing in a BPL!
Bring it on!
Rangers v Lyon
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200, buugger, skied it
posted on 4/10/24
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted about 4 hours ago
FWIW, I also think the SPFL might be at it with the fixtures to create swings at the top. They did the same last year and arguably it worked for them though injuries and other team dynamics play as big a part but first round Rangers have Hearts, Aberdeen & Killie away, Celtic have them at home - 3x banana skins, it seems too contrived?
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Agreed, then add TV scheduling. Last weekend Rangers get the earliest possible time to play after a Thursday game and Celtic get the latest time with a game on the Tuesday. Upsets sell TV subscriptions.
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Just saw this story about Diarra. SILVER, will this affect the player trading model Celtic has? Any effect?
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I've been busy and only seen the headlines and not dug deeper into the ramifications. At a high level, I think it is unreasonable from an employer perspective for an employee to force a dismissal via deliberate misconduct. Of course, for the vast majority of 'regular' employees on 1,2,3,6 month notice periods this isn't a major issue but for players who tend to be the highest earners and most key employees at a club / company still with 1,2,3,4 years to run it becomes more morally complex.
Of MUCH more interest to me is the case of FC Swift Hesperange (Lux) v UEFA. I've searched but cannot see update since 2 years - if anyone is smarter on Google please enlighten me! They were / are arguing that not allowing teams to play under any jurisdiction FA is a violation of competition law.
Their argument is supported by both historical and geographical anomalies like Monaco, Wales, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Berwick but also a tiny country like theirs (pop. 650k) struggle to fulfil homegrown quotas from such a small catchment so is unfair. We all know it is.
So HUGE ramifications for countries like ours. I know this site is divided on keeping the SPFL or being able to play in England but I have long been a supporter of the latter. I see it as inevitable assuming no major changes in the world order.. Let's be honest, if you were starting from scratch now, would you organise soccer along country lines? No, you would go down the US franchise model to maximise financial return.
Now, obviously I am close to how thing work over there - good and bad - but it's no surprise the failed ESL bid was driven by US money analysts that can see that UEFA are failing to achieve the earnings multiples that US sports do.
Now the controversial bit - I can see the MLS become a force! We all know by and large performance correlates with money. See revenue below - all €
EPL 10bn
La Liga 4.4bn
Bundesliga 3.6bn
Serie A 2.9bn
Ligue 1 2.4bn
MLS 1.9bn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue
Actually, look at the list and thanks to two Glasgow clubs the SPFL is punching!
Anyhow, MLS is not gonna dominate anything in my lifetime. But most of us have witnessed a few false dawns over there but they are firmly established now with mass participation and growing supporter base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance
Majority of clubs at capacity - I consider anything >90% virtually at capacity. Added, every review there are cities up and down the country bidding to enter a franchise with the whole thing growing.
I digress - my point is whether it is legal arguments or competition from the US, eventually Europe will have to change structures. Why not sooner rather than later? A 75-80k CP, ditto Ibrox, playing in a BPL!
Bring it on!
posted on 4/10/24
I actually posted on here years ago that I expected football to take the franchise route. And still expect that. And managers becoming head coaches with a GM doing all the player trading which is becoming more and more of a thing in football.
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