1987 Mark Walters came to Rangers, spawned a fair bit of racial hatred from Celtic fans. A lot was made of their fans throwing loads of bananas onto the pitch in protest of him. That was the first memory of racial hatred I had seen in football, it was never something that seemed to be that big a problem with outwith the celtic fans and racial prejudice seems to be have affected the Scottish game a lot less than others.
We still saw inflatable banana's in the crowds and a lot of abuse aimed at black players.
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Good article, but a bit sad that in 2024 we still have to encounter rogue apostrophes like the one above.
Where did you grow up, DJ? I grew up in the 1970s North London, and that was already pretty ethnically diverse in those days.
Brendon Batson was the 1st black player to play for Arsenal and he was a right back
Where did you grow up, DJ? I grew up in the 1970s North London, and that was already pretty ethnically diverse in those days.
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Kent. Even mid-late 90s the Grammar school I went to was ~95% white.
Very different now, probably about 10% white.
I remember Batson from WBA. Didn't know he'd played for Arsenal too.
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
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what percentage of those black players in the france squad were born in france however ...
this guy is such a wum
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comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted on 18/5/24
Think it is more poor black families where the mum adds her name to her kids cos the father has long left.
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comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted on 18/5/24
Don't know which one of our comments is more racist.
Not sure your point. That is true of many Arsenal academy players, such as Ainsley Maitland, who had "Niles" added on as it was his mothers surname and Brooke Norton-Cuffy pka Brooke Norton.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Not sure your point. That is true of many Arsenal academy players, such as Ainsley Maitland, who had "Niles" added on as it was his mothers surname and Brooke Norton-Cuffy pka Brooke Norton.
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Wright-Phillips?
Brilliant piece DJ
Now, as you know, I’m no Arsenal fan. But one of my best mates from childhood was a massive Arsenal fan, and in the 90’s would invite me along to some games at Highbury on his ‘Junior Gunner’ membership.
Think it was aboot £3 for a ticket!!
Got to see UTD play, and I think we lost that game. But what struck me, was how friendly the fans were, great atmosphere.You had a great team then, but the love yer fans had, for the Black players was amazing.
I only went to aboot 5 games, but enjoyable experiences the lot of them. Now my mate did everything he could to sway me from my love of Man Utd, but it was never gonna happen, maybe that’s why he stopped inviting me..
but as much as we have banter on here, I will always have those memories, and respect for Arsenal, cos seeing the love and the way Arsenal football club treated those black players, was a pretty defining moment for little old me..
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 7 hours, 19 minutes ago
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
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They just pick the best French players. If none of them are white, so be it.
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 20 hours, 36 minutes ago
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're basically calling for DEI in football for white players, if they are not good enough, they are not good enough. We complain when ethnic minorities are doing it in other arenas, but yet you're calling for it in football. You can't have it both ways, it's either a meritocracy or not
I really can't see a situation in football where a player is better and you pick the black person just because they are black.
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posted on 9/10/24
1987 Mark Walters came to Rangers, spawned a fair bit of racial hatred from Celtic fans. A lot was made of their fans throwing loads of bananas onto the pitch in protest of him. That was the first memory of racial hatred I had seen in football, it was never something that seemed to be that big a problem with outwith the celtic fans and racial prejudice seems to be have affected the Scottish game a lot less than others.
posted on 9/10/24
Good article OP
posted on 9/10/24
We still saw inflatable banana's in the crowds and a lot of abuse aimed at black players.
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Good article, but a bit sad that in 2024 we still have to encounter rogue apostrophes like the one above.
Where did you grow up, DJ? I grew up in the 1970s North London, and that was already pretty ethnically diverse in those days.
posted on 9/10/24
Brendon Batson was the 1st black player to play for Arsenal and he was a right back
posted on 9/10/24
Where did you grow up, DJ? I grew up in the 1970s North London, and that was already pretty ethnically diverse in those days.
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Kent. Even mid-late 90s the Grammar school I went to was ~95% white.
Very different now, probably about 10% white.
posted on 9/10/24
I remember Batson from WBA. Didn't know he'd played for Arsenal too.
posted on 9/10/24
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
posted on 9/10/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
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what percentage of those black players in the france squad were born in france however ...
posted on 9/10/24
this guy is such a wum
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comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted on 18/5/24
Think it is more poor black families where the mum adds her name to her kids cos the father has long left.
Reply | Add Comment | Complain | Share
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted on 18/5/24
Don't know which one of our comments is more racist.
posted on 9/10/24
Not sure your point. That is true of many Arsenal academy players, such as Ainsley Maitland, who had "Niles" added on as it was his mothers surname and Brooke Norton-Cuffy pka Brooke Norton.
posted on 9/10/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Not sure your point. That is true of many Arsenal academy players, such as Ainsley Maitland, who had "Niles" added on as it was his mothers surname and Brooke Norton-Cuffy pka Brooke Norton.
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Wright-Phillips?
posted on 9/10/24
Hope it goes well DJ
posted on 9/10/24
Brilliant piece DJ
Now, as you know, I’m no Arsenal fan. But one of my best mates from childhood was a massive Arsenal fan, and in the 90’s would invite me along to some games at Highbury on his ‘Junior Gunner’ membership.
Think it was aboot £3 for a ticket!!
Got to see UTD play, and I think we lost that game. But what struck me, was how friendly the fans were, great atmosphere.You had a great team then, but the love yer fans had, for the Black players was amazing.
I only went to aboot 5 games, but enjoyable experiences the lot of them. Now my mate did everything he could to sway me from my love of Man Utd, but it was never gonna happen, maybe that’s why he stopped inviting me..
but as much as we have banter on here, I will always have those memories, and respect for Arsenal, cos seeing the love and the way Arsenal football club treated those black players, was a pretty defining moment for little old me..
posted on 9/10/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 7 hours, 19 minutes ago
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
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They just pick the best French players. If none of them are white, so be it.
posted on 10/10/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 20 hours, 36 minutes ago
Good article DJ.
However, there needs to be major differentiation made between abusing footballers because of their race & the degree of diversity in football teams.
In my experience of academy football I would say in this country there is positive discrimination in favour of black players for various reasons.
Look at France. Which despite the insane immigration into that country, is for now still majority white.
How can it be that the majority population is virtually absent from their national team ?
Why is there not a push to include more white players in their team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're basically calling for DEI in football for white players, if they are not good enough, they are not good enough. We complain when ethnic minorities are doing it in other arenas, but yet you're calling for it in football. You can't have it both ways, it's either a meritocracy or not
I really can't see a situation in football where a player is better and you pick the black person just because they are black.
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