comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 32 minutes ago

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He’s admitted he’s not at his best. Give the guy time. His first game for us was excellent then he got injured just after.

Fully fit he will make a difference.

I dispare at our fans. We go away to a team unbeaten in six games on a day when emotions are running sky high too. We come away with an easy point and could have easily won the game but for Gnonto, Bogle and Joseph fluffing their lines.

Burnley have just drawn at home to QPR! Let that sink in.




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My recollection of Solomon's debut was that for the first half he was entirely predictable and that Lewie Coyle was able to defend against him with very few concerns. He kept shepherding him down towards the corner flag. It was only in the second half and only one assist that made him stand out, without that average at best, it certainly wasn't an all round "excellent" performance.

On the point of him admitting he is not at his best, well that's obvious isn't it, no doubt there was a good player there once, how long do we give him, he's firing blanks at the moment. If he hasn't turned it round by the next window when we could send him back and utilise that loan space with a better option, if there was one, how would that feel?

https://motleedsnews.com/matchday/joel-piroe-stinks-again-sam-byram-shines-leeds-united-player-ratings-v-bristol-city/

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Funny how people see the game differently. As you frequently point out LIW, you see things differently at the ground.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by White as Snow (U22893)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Apparently we're paying Solomon 50 grand per week because Ajax came in for him just as we were about to sign him.

Doesn't look money well spent at the moment. Hopefully he'll come good in time.
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He’s admitted he’s not at his best. Give the guy time. His first game for us was excellent then he got injured just after.

Fully fit he will make a difference.

I dispare at our fans. We go away to a team unbeaten in six games on a day when emotions are running sky high too. We come away with an easy point and could have easily won the game but for Gnonto, Bogle and Joseph fluffing their lines.

Burnley have just drawn at home to QPR! Let that sink in.




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See my above post re Burnley. Already sunk in but thanks.

comment by Dennis. (U23086)
posted 32 minutes ago
https://motleedsnews.com/matchday/joel-piroe-stinks-again-sam-byram-shines-leeds-united-player-ratings-v-bristol-city/

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Funny how people see the game differently. As you frequently point out LIW, you see things differently at the ground.
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People at the ground see things differently from each other as well

Piroe shouldn't be starting he just doesn't fit the way we play. Solomon if he doesn't improve by Jan we should end the loan.

Could use another striker. One is bang average and slows us down, one cant hit a barn door and one is barely fit ..... and can't hit a barn door.

Teams have pretty much always needed a 20+ goal striker to get out of this league and we still don't have one. Wood, Gayle, Toney, Mitrovic, Armstrong, Pukki to name a few recent ones.

comment by LeedsMRU (U22367)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
And Sunderland are doing a Leicester/Ipswich, won 2-0, 5 points ahead - we are dropping too many points. Still Bristol city are unbeaten at home, so fair enough.
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You don't need a 20 goal striker anyway. Leicester got 96 points last season. You need someone who is mobile and can bring others into play. He wasn't great when he came on today but Joseph makes us such a better team. I reckon he'll go on a good run of goals anyway. With Piroe we are playing with 10 men. He has no physical presence whatsoever.

Personally did not think it was too bad today. Performance was good enough to win and the only thing that was missing was a clinical finish or a tiny bit better cross/through ball that would have resulted in another golden chance. We gave an in-form at home Bristol City side absolutely nothing which remains very positive going forwards.
In terms of individuals I am a lot happier with Bogle these days who is contributing miles more than the first few games of the season when he looked like a league 2 player. He was solid today defensively and showed desire to get forwards and make something happen. Byram was very good when you consider its his first game in quite some time. Part of a defence that gave nothing away. Midfield is looking far more fluent with Rothwell/Tanaka. The only starting player who didnt really contribute much was Piroe but we all know why he is picked to play. Solomon was not great but needs the supporters to support him and give him time.
Every time we dont win a game there is a general ch1tting the bed form Leeds fans. Sunderland are compounding that with their excellent start but I remain confident of promotion from what I have seen so far.

Can't win every game but at times such as today i don't know why Farke never sticks Piroe & Joseph up top together. Just try summat different Daniel. We need one of that pair to start really producing or the inevitable pleading for Bamford to start will happen, which is the very last thing we need.

Controlled most of the game just weren't sharp final third.
Mes 6.5 no nervy moments
Bogle 6.5 should go through him more
Rodon 6.5
Struijk 7.5 my motm
Rothwell 7
Tanaka 7
Aaronson 5
Piroe 5 slow and ineffective
James 6
Joseph 5.5 had his chance couldn't keep it down.
Solomon 4.5 hope he can improve but really slows us down.

Solomon has looked very sluggish but that clearly suggests he’s not up to speed, he looked good in the first couple of games until the injury.

That said, when it all settles down we are the best team in this league I’m certain of it. We’ve played everyone around us and they’ve all been very average, including Sunderland

comment by gelderd82 (U6817)
posted 26 minutes ago
Solomon has looked very sluggish but that clearly suggests he’s not up to speed, he looked good in the first couple of games until the injury.

That said, when it all settles down we are the best team in this league I’m certain of it. We’ve played everyone around us and they’ve all been very average, including Sunderland
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Clearly watching a different player to me, in the early part of the season he played two games, in the first one Coyle was able to manage him and he showed no variety in what he did in the first half repeatedly going outside and didn't have the pace to go round him. It wasn't until the second half when he twigged this and he started to come inside that he got more joy and his assist. Hull are 15th and are not having a great season.
The second game was against Burnley, I can forgive the slip, he had seldom played at Elland Road and fell victim to the slickness of the pitch (nobody else did), he showed some glimpses but faded and was replaced. He had flown back from representing Israel but it makes me wonder whether he is cut out for Championship football which is hectic.

Dennis

Your view is certainly clouded by your views on Israel.

Been poor last few games but not fully fit

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 16 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Dennis. (U23086)
posted 32 minutes ago
https://motleedsnews.com/matchday/joel-piroe-stinks-again-sam-byram-shines-leeds-united-player-ratings-v-bristol-city/

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Funny how people see the game differently. As you frequently point out LIW, you see things differently at the ground.
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People at the ground see things differently from each other as well
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True - we had a guy behind us last week who wouldn’t know a football if it hit him in the face! Constantly berating players when they passed sideways or backwards. Not every pass can be a forward one.

Not only berating them but swearing loudly with kids close by! Fortunately he doesn’t often get his dads ticket.

I know it’s football and it was once a working man’s game. However some behaviour is not acceptable these days. I swear with the best but never in company I don’t know.

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 37 seconds ago
Dennis

Your view is certainly clouded by your views on Israel.

Been poor last few games but not fully fit
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He’s even said he’s not fully fit and that there is more to come.

Personally I couldn’t give a monkey’s where he comes from or what his political views are. If I went through life like that I’d probably have no friends and have to eliminate half our street 😏

Get him match fit and see what he can do. He proved he is direct and sometimes we need that.

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 35 minutes ago
Dennis

Your view is certainly clouded by your views on Israel.

Been poor last few games but not fully fit
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This is probably true, I make no bones about this and have never hidden the fact that I didn't want the guy at the club in the first place, I will try to be a little bit more objective, like him or loathe him, he's a Leeds player and whilst most of us would rather have Largie starting that option isn't available.
At the moment he isn't fully match fit and the last couple of games without that match sharpness has looked well short of what we need.
I have never blamed him for the Burnley goal, that I have always felt was an unfortunate slip that could have happened to anyone, if anything I blame a combination of the policy of overwatering and the fact he had had little opportunity to practice at Elland Road, he was a victim of Farke's style of play if anything.
I do think some player's are less suited to the demands of the championship and if he doesn't improve, maybe it isn't the right league for him.
The bits where he has turned it on, he has looked good but watch the Hull game again, against Coyle you will see I am right, for a lot of that game he was predictable and easily dealt with, unfortunately the Burnley game was so overshadowed by the slip I cannot remember how he played.

comment by Dennis. (U23086)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 35 minutes ago
Dennis

Your view is certainly clouded by your views on Israel.

Been poor last few games but not fully fit
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This is probably true, I make no bones about this and have never hidden the fact that I didn't want the guy at the club in the first place, I will try to be a little bit more objective, like him or loathe him, he's a Leeds player and whilst most of us would rather have Largie starting that option isn't available.
At the moment he isn't fully match fit and the last couple of games without that match sharpness has looked well short of what we need.
I have never blamed him for the Burnley goal, that I have always felt was an unfortunate slip that could have happened to anyone, if anything I blame a combination of the policy of overwatering and the fact he had had little opportunity to practice at Elland Road, he was a victim of Farke's style of play if anything.
I do think some player's are less suited to the demands of the championship and if he doesn't improve, maybe it isn't the right league for him.
The bits where he has turned it on, he has looked good but watch the Hull game again, against Coyle you will see I am right, for a lot of that game he was predictable and easily dealt with, unfortunately the Burnley game was so overshadowed by the slip I cannot remember how he played.
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Out of interest what did Solomon say or do that you wouldn't want him playing for our club

comment by White as Snow (U22893)
posted 13 hours, 17 minutes ago
Can't win every game but at times such as today i don't know why Farke never sticks Piroe & Joseph up top together. Just try summat different Daniel. We need one of that pair to start really producing or the inevitable pleading for Bamford to start will happen, which is the very last thing we need.
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I really don’t know what goes through Daniel Farke’s mind. As the second half progressed we were pushing for a winner and he decided on 85 minutes to replace Willie Gnonto with a player who hasn’t scored - or even looked like scoring - for one and a half seasons. Someone please explain that…

comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by White as Snow (U22893)
posted 13 hours, 17 minutes ago
Can't win every game but at times such as today i don't know why Farke never sticks Piroe & Joseph up top together. Just try summat different Daniel. We need one of that pair to start really producing or the inevitable pleading for Bamford to start will happen, which is the very last thing we need.
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I really don’t know what goes through Daniel Farke’s mind. As the second half progressed we were pushing for a winner and he decided on 85 minutes to replace Willie Gnonto with a player who hasn’t scored - or even looked like scoring - for one and a half seasons. Someone please explain that…
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I certainly can't 🤣

Was a bit chaotic at the end. Sadly not for the first time.

Solomon has barely kicked a ball for us. Far too early to write him off.

I reckon against Plymouth Farke will stick with Piroe and usually after a volley of criticism he shuts us up which I'll be delighted if he does and then it's Millwall where he had a memorable game there last season so fingers crossed he repeats that but I think he should shoot more
from outside the box and his team mates too because
we seem to FA nny about too much for my liking when a Peter Lorimer special is needed.

surprised me actually - thought it would be more like end to end but actually, pretty flat, cr 8p, game and some very flat performances.

not the end of the world of course! - 3 points next game and its all forgotten