Why should NATO defend Ukraine's sovereignty? And not Sudan's or Yemen's or any other non members?

We should be looking for peace first options the world doesnt need more war.

big corporations need moar war

comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 22 minutes ago
Why should NATO defend Ukraine's sovereignty? And not Sudan's or Yemen's or any other non members?

We should be looking for peace first options the world doesnt need more war.
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We rely on them for food?

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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this

comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 32 minutes ago
Why should NATO defend Ukraine's sovereignty? And not Sudan's or Yemen's or any other non members?

We should be looking for peace first options the world doesnt need more war.
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Zelenskys a billionaire right?

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 32 minutes ago
Why should NATO defend Ukraine's sovereignty? And not Sudan's or Yemen's or any other non members?

We should be looking for peace first options the world doesnt need more war.
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Zelenskys a billionaire right?
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Yes in Ukraine sure, which is over £1m in the UK. What is your point? Are you saying if he isn't a billionaire then NATO and the rest of the world needs to continue to blindly support him even if it means WW3?

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
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Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
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Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.
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Not if he drops a tactical nuke - which he might if he thinks the US won’t respond

All bets are off now

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
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Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.
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Not if he drops a tactical nuke - which he might if he thinks the US won’t respond

All bets are off now
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Christ!!!! Yeah, you got me, Putin will drop tactical nukes on mainstream Europe with no backlash.

one minute they're saying Russia is weak, a paper tiger, next they're gonna invade & conquer Europe

make your mind up ffs

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
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Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.
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Not if he drops a tactical nuke - which he might if he thinks the US won’t respond

All bets are off now
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Christ!!!! Yeah, you got me, Putin will drop tactical nukes on mainstream Europe with no backlash.
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Eastern Europe and no backlash from the US or China - absolutely.

I doubt we would step in and no chance the French would. If it’s a tactical nuke they will downplay it - not a real nuke etc.

But as other have said, I don’t know how high Poland is on Putins list - Moldova and Georgia seem like far more likely targets after Ukraine.

comment by Peks - Aliens are amongst us 👽 (U6618)
posted 23 seconds ago
one minute they're saying Russia is weak, a paper tiger, next they're gonna invade & conquer Europe

make your mind up ffs
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It’s weak compared to the US and it’s weak compared to a United force.

But if it knows the US won’t intervene and others are less likely to do so ………

All bets are off

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
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Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.
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Not if he drops a tactical nuke - which he might if he thinks the US won’t respond

All bets are off now
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Christ!!!! Yeah, you got me, Putin will drop tactical nukes on mainstream Europe with no backlash.
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Eastern Europe and no backlash from the US or China - absolutely.

I doubt we would step in and no chance the French would. If it’s a tactical nuke they will downplay it - not a real nuke etc.

But as other have said, I don’t know how high Poland is on Putins list - Moldova and Georgia seem like far more likely targets after Ukraine.
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I think you'll find the Ukraine war hinged on the American backed Coup that ovethrew Yanukovych

My guess is Russia will want Donbass & Crimea (as they are majority pro -Russian) & for Ukraine to not join NATO

Western Ukraine around Lviv...well the Poles may well want that back...as that is historic Polish land

Certain nations like Georgia, Russia will keep them away from Nato...but invade them , nah won't happen

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
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Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.
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Not if he drops a tactical nuke - which he might if he thinks the US won’t respond

All bets are off now
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Christ!!!! Yeah, you got me, Putin will drop tactical nukes on mainstream Europe with no backlash.
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Eastern Europe and no backlash from the US or China - absolutely.

I doubt we would step in and no chance the French would. If it’s a tactical nuke they will downplay it - not a real nuke etc.

But as other have said, I don’t know how high Poland is on Putins list - Moldova and Georgia seem like far more likely targets after Ukraine.
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Absolutely no chance Russia tries to take on Poland.

Russia have been humiliated the last few years in their struggle to overcome backwater Ukraine, they wouldn't risk being humiliated on a wider scale.

I think you'll find the Ukraine war hinged on the American backed Coup that ovethrew Yanukovych

__________

Wasn't that the Russian puppet Yanukovych

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think you'll find the Ukraine war hinged on the American backed Coup that ovethrew Yanukovych

__________

Wasn't that the Russian puppet Yanukovych
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he was democratically elected

you could call the every leader in Western Europe an American puppet🤷🏻‍♂️

comment by Peks - Aliens are amongst us 👽 (U6618)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think you'll find the Ukraine war hinged on the American backed Coup that ovethrew Yanukovych

__________

Wasn't that the Russian puppet Yanukovych
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he was democratically elected

you could call the every leader in Western Europe an American puppet🤷🏻‍♂️
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No you couldn't

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why would Russia invade Poland

You sheep are ridiculous
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Hello,1939 calling.

They hate Poland, not sure they are in any fit state to invade Poland anytime in the next couple of decades though.

Do you think Ukraine will satisfy them?

I can't see it being Poland but the land grab will continue after Ukraine imo, Georgia probably next or one of the easier targets.

If the US leave NATO, i'd be worried being a baltic state.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Absolutely zero chance of going after Poland. Not least the fact the Polish army is well prepared these days and would stop them with ease.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not if he drops a tactical nuke - which he might if he thinks the US won’t respond

All bets are off now
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Christ!!!! Yeah, you got me, Putin will drop tactical nukes on mainstream Europe with no backlash.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eastern Europe and no backlash from the US or China - absolutely.

I doubt we would step in and no chance the French would. If it’s a tactical nuke they will downplay it - not a real nuke etc.

But as other have said, I don’t know how high Poland is on Putins list - Moldova and Georgia seem like far more likely targets after Ukraine.
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Absolutely no chance Russia tries to take on Poland.

Russia have been humiliated the last few years in their struggle to overcome backwater Ukraine, they wouldn't risk being humiliated on a wider scale.
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I hope not

The peace deal will entail ukraine conceding the loss (for now) of the territorys occupied by Russia and in return Russia will have to suck up Ukraine joining the EU.

Why is everyone talking about other countries? Ukraine are a very specific case. They had an agreement to stay neutral and never try to become a NATO state.

Russia doesn’t care about expanding, have you seen their land mass? They care about defending themselves from the Western creep towards them and keeping America in particular off its borders.

Putin’s not going to jump from the misery of this war for minute areas of land, relatively speaking, to a big war with Poland / mainland Europe / NATO.

comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is everyone talking about other countries? Ukraine are a very specific case. They had an agreement to stay neutral and never try to become a NATO state.

Russia doesn’t care about expanding, have you seen their land mass? They care about defending themselves from the Western creep towards them and keeping America in particular off its borders.

Putin’s not going to jump from the misery of this war for minute areas of land, relatively speaking, to a big war with Poland / mainland Europe / NATO.
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this

comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 18 minutes ago
Why is everyone talking about other countries? Ukraine are a very specific case. They had an agreement to stay neutral and never try to become a NATO state.

Russia doesn’t care about expanding, have you seen their land mass? They care about defending themselves from the Western creep towards them and keeping America in particular off its borders.

Putin’s not going to jump from the misery of this war for minute areas of land, relatively speaking, to a big war with Poland / mainland Europe / NATO.
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Of course Russia wants to expand its influence and sphere, just like the USA, don't be ridiculous and naive.

It's not just Ukraine that had an agreement to stay neutral. NATO wasn't supposed to move east and Russia could attack a number of countries on that excuse.

Finally, in this respect, who cares if Putin can jump from one war to another. Doesn't matter if it's immediately or after 20 years. Russia would do it in their own time, just like they did with Ukraine. You're interpreting things with stoicism.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573923/Estonian-Foreign-Ministry-confirms-authenticity-leaked-phone-call-discussing-Kiev-snipers-shot-protesters-possibly-hired-Ukraines-new-leaders.html

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 18 minutes ago
Why is everyone talking about other countries? Ukraine are a very specific case. They had an agreement to stay neutral and never try to become a NATO state.

Russia doesn’t care about expanding, have you seen their land mass? They care about defending themselves from the Western creep towards them and keeping America in particular off its borders.

Putin’s not going to jump from the misery of this war for minute areas of land, relatively speaking, to a big war with Poland / mainland Europe / NATO.
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Of course Russia wants to expand its influence and sphere, just like the USA, don't be ridiculous and naive.

It's not just Ukraine that had an agreement to stay neutral. NATO wasn't supposed to move east and Russia could attack a number of countries on that excuse.

Finally, in this respect, who cares if Putin can jump from one war to another. Doesn't matter if it's immediately or after 20 years. Russia would do it in their own time, just like they did with Ukraine. You're interpreting things with stoicism.
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Can you show these other nations equivalent of Ukraine’s ‘Declaration of State Sovereignty’? Maybe I am naive.

IMO though Russia want the hassle of war less than most whereas the US invite & often incite it at every opportunity. I went to school in the US and travel back multiple times a year so I’d love to pretend they’re not the protagonists in most of these fights for global positioning.

Can you show these other nations equivalent of Ukraine’s ‘Declaration of State Sovereignty’? Maybe I am naive.
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For what purpose, or to prove what?