We need a new front 3 entirely to be anywhere near as good as Barca’s attack
There always seems to be this desire from supporters to build an exciting young frontline but I’ve always been a fan of mixing it up with experience helping the younger ones in there
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Yeah, agree with this. A lot of our fans seem to have this aversion to signing 30-something year-olds because we've been burnt a few times. But Cavani and Zlatan for example were solid, low-risk signings who contributed a lot when they were fit. As long as it's decent value for money I see no issue with it.
As for who of that ilk is available now though - don't know.
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris Wood.
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I was amazed to hear the other day that Chris Wood has scored 77 Premier League goals. Be quite amazing if he makes the 100 club.
Read in The Athletic the other day that Ten Hag wanted to bring Welbeck back.
I know there would have been uproar from our fans but i wouldnt have been against it. Not sure about his injury record, but he is better than both our CF options.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
Read in The Athletic the other day that Ten Hag wanted to bring Welbeck back.
I know there would have been uproar from our fans but i wouldnt have been against it. Not sure about his injury record, but he is better than both our CF options.
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In the real world, Welbeck has a shot conversion rate of 1 in 8 in the PL. Hojlund's is 1 in 4. Hojlund also scores more goals per minutes.
Wait until Hojlund is playing in a team that actually creates him chances before judging him.
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
Also not judging Hojlund really, he's what I would expect a 21 y/o striker with very little experience would be. Just saying - Welbeck is a better player than him right now.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris Wood.
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I was amazed to hear the other day that Chris Wood has scored 77 Premier League goals. Be quite amazing if he makes the 100 club.
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I think since Nuno went to Forest Haaland is the only striker that has outscored him in the prem.
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 55 minutes ago
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
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No it doesn't. It has a lot do with our wide players ignoring his runs and preferring to shoot themselves. Which is why both Rahsford and Garnacho took more shots than our striker last season. A decent coach will hopefully put a stop to this.
It depends who scores in the next game I watch
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 56 minutes ago
Also not judging Hojlund really, he's what I would expect a 21 y/o striker with very little experience would be. Just saying - Welbeck is a better player than him right now.
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Oh come on. He is having a purple patch at the start of this season, but Welbeck has never achieved double figures in the PL.
Hojlund achieved it is his first season at 20 years of age, playing in a system that doesn't suit his game under our worst manager in decades.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
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His conversion rate in the PL is a goal every 3.8 shots. It is only a small sample size for now, but that is better than all the other top PL scorers last season, with the exception of Isak. And he doesn't take penalties either (like some of the other top scorers).
If you stuck Hojlund in the City team he would score loads. I honestly don't think he'd be far behind Haaland.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
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His conversion rate in the PL is a goal every 3.8 shots. It is only a small sample size for now, but that is better than all the other top PL scorers last season, with the exception of Isak. And he doesn't take penalties either (like some of the other top scorers).
If you stuck Hojlund in the City team he would score loads. I honestly don't think he'd be far behind Haaland.
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Yes, he has shown he's a capable finisher. I meant more around getting hold of the ball when he gets it. However, with Amorim, he may well get more passes to run onto down the channels so he should get more opportunities to score hopefully.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 55 minutes ago
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
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No it doesn't. It has a lot do with our wide players ignoring his runs and preferring to shoot themselves. Which is why both Rahsford and Garnacho took more shots than our striker last season. A decent coach will hopefully put a stop to this.
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Interestingly, Zirkzee hasn't seem to have had a massive problem with getting chances in the same team, despite the fact he facks most of them up (nor has Garnacho, although they play different roles so fine).
I like Hojlund and I'm not having a go at all, but I find it a bit absurd to suggest that the only reason he doesn't get chances is because no one passes to him. You see this sort of thing quite often with inexperienced strikers, precisely because they are inexperienced. I think he'll come good, but its OK to admit he's very raw at the moment.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 55 minutes ago
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
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No it doesn't. It has a lot do with our wide players ignoring his runs and preferring to shoot themselves. Which is why both Rahsford and Garnacho took more shots than our striker last season. A decent coach will hopefully put a stop to this.
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Interestingly, Zirkzee hasn't seem to have had a massive problem with getting chances in the same team, despite the fact he facks most of them up (nor has Garnacho, although they play different roles so fine).
I like Hojlund and I'm not having a go at all, but I find it a bit absurd to suggest that the only reason he doesn't get chances is because no one passes to him. You see this sort of thing quite often with inexperienced strikers, precisely because they are inexperienced. I think he'll come good, but its OK to admit he's very raw at the moment.
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It was similar with Greenwood. He was lethal but rarely go into the right areas for the team to create for him.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
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His conversion rate in the PL is a goal every 3.8 shots. It is only a small sample size for now, but that is better than all the other top PL scorers last season, with the exception of Isak. And he doesn't take penalties either (like some of the other top scorers).
If you stuck Hojlund in the City team he would score loads. I honestly don't think he'd be far behind Haaland.
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Yes, he has shown he's a capable finisher. I meant more around getting hold of the ball when he gets it. However, with Amorim, he may well get more passes to run onto down the channels so he should get more opportunities to score hopefully.
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Yeh his all round game certainly needs some work.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/08/ruud-van-nistelrooy-admits-future-desire-to-manage-manchester-united
He will get his chance when the Amorim experiment inevitably fails
The curse of Robb strikes:
- Barcelona 'three goals a game' lose 1-0 at Sociedad
- Sporting score four goals; zero goal involvements from Gyökeres
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
The curse of Robb strikes:
- Barcelona 'three goals a game' lose 1-0 at Sociedad
- Sporting score four goals; zero goal involvements from Gyökeres
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posted on 8/11/24
We need a new front 3 entirely to be anywhere near as good as Barca’s attack
posted on 8/11/24
There always seems to be this desire from supporters to build an exciting young frontline but I’ve always been a fan of mixing it up with experience helping the younger ones in there
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Yeah, agree with this. A lot of our fans seem to have this aversion to signing 30-something year-olds because we've been burnt a few times. But Cavani and Zlatan for example were solid, low-risk signings who contributed a lot when they were fit. As long as it's decent value for money I see no issue with it.
As for who of that ilk is available now though - don't know.
posted on 8/11/24
Chris Wood.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris Wood.
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I was amazed to hear the other day that Chris Wood has scored 77 Premier League goals. Be quite amazing if he makes the 100 club.
posted on 8/11/24
Read in The Athletic the other day that Ten Hag wanted to bring Welbeck back.
I know there would have been uproar from our fans but i wouldnt have been against it. Not sure about his injury record, but he is better than both our CF options.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
Read in The Athletic the other day that Ten Hag wanted to bring Welbeck back.
I know there would have been uproar from our fans but i wouldnt have been against it. Not sure about his injury record, but he is better than both our CF options.
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In the real world, Welbeck has a shot conversion rate of 1 in 8 in the PL. Hojlund's is 1 in 4. Hojlund also scores more goals per minutes.
Wait until Hojlund is playing in a team that actually creates him chances before judging him.
posted on 8/11/24
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
posted on 8/11/24
Also not judging Hojlund really, he's what I would expect a 21 y/o striker with very little experience would be. Just saying - Welbeck is a better player than him right now.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris Wood.
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I was amazed to hear the other day that Chris Wood has scored 77 Premier League goals. Be quite amazing if he makes the 100 club.
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I think since Nuno went to Forest Haaland is the only striker that has outscored him in the prem.
posted on 8/11/24
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 55 minutes ago
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
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No it doesn't. It has a lot do with our wide players ignoring his runs and preferring to shoot themselves. Which is why both Rahsford and Garnacho took more shots than our striker last season. A decent coach will hopefully put a stop to this.
posted on 8/11/24
It depends who scores in the next game I watch
posted on 8/11/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 56 minutes ago
Also not judging Hojlund really, he's what I would expect a 21 y/o striker with very little experience would be. Just saying - Welbeck is a better player than him right now.
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Oh come on. He is having a purple patch at the start of this season, but Welbeck has never achieved double figures in the PL.
Hojlund achieved it is his first season at 20 years of age, playing in a system that doesn't suit his game under our worst manager in decades.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
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His conversion rate in the PL is a goal every 3.8 shots. It is only a small sample size for now, but that is better than all the other top PL scorers last season, with the exception of Isak. And he doesn't take penalties either (like some of the other top scorers).
If you stuck Hojlund in the City team he would score loads. I honestly don't think he'd be far behind Haaland.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His conversion rate in the PL is a goal every 3.8 shots. It is only a small sample size for now, but that is better than all the other top PL scorers last season, with the exception of Isak. And he doesn't take penalties either (like some of the other top scorers).
If you stuck Hojlund in the City team he would score loads. I honestly don't think he'd be far behind Haaland.
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Yes, he has shown he's a capable finisher. I meant more around getting hold of the ball when he gets it. However, with Amorim, he may well get more passes to run onto down the channels so he should get more opportunities to score hopefully.
posted on 8/11/24
Joselu
posted on 8/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 55 minutes ago
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
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No it doesn't. It has a lot do with our wide players ignoring his runs and preferring to shoot themselves. Which is why both Rahsford and Garnacho took more shots than our striker last season. A decent coach will hopefully put a stop to this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interestingly, Zirkzee hasn't seem to have had a massive problem with getting chances in the same team, despite the fact he facks most of them up (nor has Garnacho, although they play different roles so fine).
I like Hojlund and I'm not having a go at all, but I find it a bit absurd to suggest that the only reason he doesn't get chances is because no one passes to him. You see this sort of thing quite often with inexperienced strikers, precisely because they are inexperienced. I think he'll come good, but its OK to admit he's very raw at the moment.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 55 minutes ago
Hojlund's lack of involvement in games has a lot to do with Hojlund himself.
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No it doesn't. It has a lot do with our wide players ignoring his runs and preferring to shoot themselves. Which is why both Rahsford and Garnacho took more shots than our striker last season. A decent coach will hopefully put a stop to this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interestingly, Zirkzee hasn't seem to have had a massive problem with getting chances in the same team, despite the fact he facks most of them up (nor has Garnacho, although they play different roles so fine).
I like Hojlund and I'm not having a go at all, but I find it a bit absurd to suggest that the only reason he doesn't get chances is because no one passes to him. You see this sort of thing quite often with inexperienced strikers, precisely because they are inexperienced. I think he'll come good, but its OK to admit he's very raw at the moment.
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It was similar with Greenwood. He was lethal but rarely go into the right areas for the team to create for him.
posted on 8/11/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
Hojlund could do with better service but he could also do with being better when he gets it.
Hopefully, under the new boss, he'll get more opportunities on the ball in dangerous areas so the odd error isn't as important.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His conversion rate in the PL is a goal every 3.8 shots. It is only a small sample size for now, but that is better than all the other top PL scorers last season, with the exception of Isak. And he doesn't take penalties either (like some of the other top scorers).
If you stuck Hojlund in the City team he would score loads. I honestly don't think he'd be far behind Haaland.
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Yes, he has shown he's a capable finisher. I meant more around getting hold of the ball when he gets it. However, with Amorim, he may well get more passes to run onto down the channels so he should get more opportunities to score hopefully.
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Yeh his all round game certainly needs some work.
posted on 8/11/24
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/08/ruud-van-nistelrooy-admits-future-desire-to-manage-manchester-united
He will get his chance when the Amorim experiment inevitably fails
posted on 10/11/24
The curse of Robb strikes:
- Barcelona 'three goals a game' lose 1-0 at Sociedad
- Sporting score four goals; zero goal involvements from Gyökeres
posted on 10/11/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 27 minutes ago
The curse of Robb strikes:
- Barcelona 'three goals a game' lose 1-0 at Sociedad
- Sporting score four goals; zero goal involvements from Gyökeres
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