"The wage bill was down by £10.1m to £80.2m for the quarter."
Doesn't the lack of CL account for that?
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posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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At age of 10 there's still a chance he'll get back into football. My twin boys (now 18) alternated between being obsessed with football and uninterested throughout their childhood. But over the last few years they've been playing regularly in a team (and I've ended up - by default - as the coach). One of them watches matches with me. The other keeps an eye on results but doesn't usually watch, unless it's a big game.
It is inevitable that should you build a new stadium that prices will rise.
Firstly, it's natural where fans will have a much improved facility to watch their team - Bars, big screens, more loos, perfect views. Even things like a working mobile signal is a massive plus.
Secondly, it will be hugely expensive. While up to 20k extra seats will increase your matchday 25%, pro rata, you need to make much bigger gains to pay off financing and generate more 'disposable income'.
Some of this can be done through expanded corporate provision, which brings in top dollar and Utd probably have massive scope for this. Other will be through expanded uses of the stadium (commercial revenues) but the big jump in revenues that the likes of Spurs and Arsenal achieved with new grounds was achieved through matchday revenues. Spurs went from about £45m to about £110m. So about 250% increase despite just a 66% increase in capacity.
That was achieved through extensive corporate provision, fairly large price rises and also through hugely expanded food & drink outlets. Spurs reportedly make £800k - £1m per game on food and drink, much of which is very reasonably priced, to encourage fans to arrive early and get stuck in
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Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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At age of 10 there's still a chance he'll get back into football. My twin boys (now 18) alternated between being obsessed with football and uninterested throughout their childhood. But over the last few years they've been playing regularly in a team (and I've ended up - by default - as the coach). One of them watches matches with me. The other keeps an eye on results but doesn't usually watch, unless it's a big game.
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The formative years play an important role in creating tribalism and attachment to a club. It becomes even more profound if the club plays attractive football and enjoys relative success. Unfortunately, we've lacked both over the past decade, so it's no surprise that SE85's child dislikes football. Our struggles and setbacks could make anyone hate football. Most of us persevere because of the deep connection we formed with the club during our formative years.
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posted 18 minutes ago
"The wage bill was down by £10.1m to £80.2m for the quarter."
Doesn't the lack of CL account for that?
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Oh yeah, shiiiiit, I forgot about that. It was reductions of between 15% and 25% for most players wasn’t it?
So what I basically meant was…
Some good news: We aren’t in the CL this season.
That’s pretty depressing actually, when we got Varane, Sancho (largely) and Martial, as well as a good number of relatively low earners, off the wage bill
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
"The wage bill was down by £10.1m to £80.2m for the quarter."
Doesn't the lack of CL account for that?
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Oh yeah, shiiiiit, I forgot about that. It was reductions of between 15% and 25% for most players wasn’t it?
So what I basically meant was…
Some good news: We aren’t in the CL this season.
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Or next season most likely 😂
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posted 33 minutes ago
The formative years play an important role in creating tribalism and attachment to a club. It becomes even more profound if the club plays attractive football and enjoys relative success. Unfortunately, we've lacked both over the past decade, so it's no surprise that SE85's child dislikes football. Our struggles and setbacks could make anyone hate football. Most of us persevere because of the deep connection we formed with the club during our formative years.
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To some extent. But there are lots of counter-examples. My connection to United was forged in the Ron Atkinson years, where more often than not the emotion was disappointment. My kids were too young to take in the glory of the late-Fergie years, so they've only really known mediocrity, but they're avid United fans. One of my school friends wasn't interested in football at all back in the day. He moved to London in his 20s and next thing I knew he was a passionate Chelsea fan (pre-Abramovich boom years).
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Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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I have a daughter who is 30. She's only been to OT once ever and that was the 1999 CL Final charity game at OT. I have only ever had to buy her 2 shirts when she was young. One had Beckham on the back... the other with Ronaldo. So you can probably see her motivation for wanting those. Now she has her own kid who has to wear Spurs gear as Dad is a Tottenham fan. Ive even bought her a Spurs shirt for Xmas. I feel violated.
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posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
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comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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I have a daughter who is 30. She's only been to OT once ever and that was the 1999 CL Final charity game at OT. I have only ever had to buy her 2 shirts when she was young. One had Beckham on the back... the other with Ronaldo. So you can probably see her motivation for wanting those. Now she has her own kid who has to wear Spurs gear as Dad is a Tottenham fan. Ive even bought her a Spurs shirt for Xmas. I feel violated.
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Your feelings are nothing compared to the lifetime of suffering and disappointment your granddaughter will experience.
We aren’t skint , it’s just Jim wants to upgrade his yacht
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comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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I have a daughter who is 30. She's only been to OT once ever and that was the 1999 CL Final charity game at OT. I have only ever had to buy her 2 shirts when she was young. One had Beckham on the back... the other with Ronaldo. So you can probably see her motivation for wanting those. Now she has her own kid who has to wear Spurs gear as Dad is a Tottenham fan. Ive even bought her a Spurs shirt for Xmas. I feel violated.
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Your feelings are nothing compared to the lifetime of suffering and disappointment your granddaughter will experience.
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In my daughters household he gets more pleasure out of seeing Arsenal lose than seeing Spurs win. I believe this is a common trait with Spurs fans. His problem is is that Spurs dont win that often and Arsenal do. So its a double whammy of dissappointment usually. My daughter prays that Spurs win and Arsenal lose every weekend for a quiet and contented life.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
It is inevitable that should you build a new stadium that prices will rise.
Firstly, it's natural where fans will have a much improved facility to watch their team - Bars, big screens, more loos, perfect views. Even things like a working mobile signal is a massive plus.
Secondly, it will be hugely expensive. While up to 20k extra seats will increase your matchday 25%, pro rata, you need to make much bigger gains to pay off financing and generate more 'disposable income'.
Some of this can be done through expanded corporate provision, which brings in top dollar and Utd probably have massive scope for this. Other will be through expanded uses of the stadium (commercial revenues) but the big jump in revenues that the likes of Spurs and Arsenal achieved with new grounds was achieved through matchday revenues. Spurs went from about £45m to about £110m. So about 250% increase despite just a 66% increase in capacity.
That was achieved through extensive corporate provision, fairly large price rises and also through hugely expanded food & drink outlets. Spurs reportedly make £800k - £1m per game on food and drink, much of which is very reasonably priced, to encourage fans to arrive early and get stuck in
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seasoned United fans usually wait til one minute before KO to take thier seats at Old Trafford
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
It is inevitable that should you build a new stadium that prices will rise.
Firstly, it's natural where fans will have a much improved facility to watch their team - Bars, big screens, more loos, perfect views. Even things like a working mobile signal is a massive plus.
Secondly, it will be hugely expensive. While up to 20k extra seats will increase your matchday 25%, pro rata, you need to make much bigger gains to pay off financing and generate more 'disposable income'.
Some of this can be done through expanded corporate provision, which brings in top dollar and Utd probably have massive scope for this. Other will be through expanded uses of the stadium (commercial revenues) but the big jump in revenues that the likes of Spurs and Arsenal achieved with new grounds was achieved through matchday revenues. Spurs went from about £45m to about £110m. So about 250% increase despite just a 66% increase in capacity.
That was achieved through extensive corporate provision, fairly large price rises and also through hugely expanded food & drink outlets. Spurs reportedly make £800k - £1m per game on food and drink, much of which is very reasonably priced, to encourage fans to arrive early and get stuck in
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seasoned United fans usually wait til one minute before KO to take thier seats at Old Trafford
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How's Sir Jim expected to milk fans if they don't arrive before KO ?
Seriously though, if you ever se footage of Spurs stadium bars b4 and after games, they are packed full of folk drinking and singing. Beer/food prices are good, you dont fell like you're being milked and there plenty of things there to attract you b4 the game. It's a real success without feeling like exploitation of fans.
Does feel like a bit of a slap in the face given what you've had to put up with for the last 10 years or so and the cuts they've already made.
I understand that the way the club was run previously resulted in a different approach being needed this time around but I don't think they're exactly nailing it.
Plus surely there's a chance that pricing certain fans out of being able to afford tickets will result in a worse atmosphere at games, potentially having an adverse affect on what happens on the pitch and costing the club money that way?
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Does feel like a bit of a slap in the face given what you've had to put up with for the last 10 years or so and the cuts they've already made.
I understand that the way the club was run previously resulted in a different approach being needed this time around but I don't think they're exactly nailing it.
Plus surely there's a chance that pricing certain fans out of being able to afford tickets will result in a worse atmosphere at games, potentially having an adverse affect on what happens on the pitch and costing the club money that way?
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the Glazers did price the more local, working class, and lets face it often 'beered up' traditional fans who had been going for years before when they took over who actually collectively protested wearing Green & Gold scarves and some boycotted games, some even set their own replacement football club and never returned, and to be fair the atmospehere ever since at OT has never been quite the same. But as I mentioned United/Glazers and now INEOS regard the vast Red Army as Cannon Fodder and they believe rightly or wrongly that other more wealthier, obedient fans will always fill the gaps in the ranks as the oiks fall away. And then they make even more money. United are brilliant at using our name and history to make sheds load of money.
and good luck to Ruud at Leicester City
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgw6y6p19eo
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posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
and good luck to Ruud at Leicester City
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Yes, I second that!
Utd have always taken the pi55 when it comes to ticket prices.
As an away fan for a League Cup game a few years ago, Utd purposely ignored the "£30" away ticket price used in the Prem and charged us £45 ....... I didn't go.
Fast forward a few years and we get drawn away at Liverpool at the same stage of the competition and its £13 a ticket.............. we sold 6,000.
Utd can burn in hell.
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posted on 27/11/24
"The wage bill was down by £10.1m to £80.2m for the quarter."
Doesn't the lack of CL account for that?
posted on 27/11/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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At age of 10 there's still a chance he'll get back into football. My twin boys (now 18) alternated between being obsessed with football and uninterested throughout their childhood. But over the last few years they've been playing regularly in a team (and I've ended up - by default - as the coach). One of them watches matches with me. The other keeps an eye on results but doesn't usually watch, unless it's a big game.
posted on 27/11/24
It is inevitable that should you build a new stadium that prices will rise.
Firstly, it's natural where fans will have a much improved facility to watch their team - Bars, big screens, more loos, perfect views. Even things like a working mobile signal is a massive plus.
Secondly, it will be hugely expensive. While up to 20k extra seats will increase your matchday 25%, pro rata, you need to make much bigger gains to pay off financing and generate more 'disposable income'.
Some of this can be done through expanded corporate provision, which brings in top dollar and Utd probably have massive scope for this. Other will be through expanded uses of the stadium (commercial revenues) but the big jump in revenues that the likes of Spurs and Arsenal achieved with new grounds was achieved through matchday revenues. Spurs went from about £45m to about £110m. So about 250% increase despite just a 66% increase in capacity.
That was achieved through extensive corporate provision, fairly large price rises and also through hugely expanded food & drink outlets. Spurs reportedly make £800k - £1m per game on food and drink, much of which is very reasonably priced, to encourage fans to arrive early and get stuck in
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Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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At age of 10 there's still a chance he'll get back into football. My twin boys (now 18) alternated between being obsessed with football and uninterested throughout their childhood. But over the last few years they've been playing regularly in a team (and I've ended up - by default - as the coach). One of them watches matches with me. The other keeps an eye on results but doesn't usually watch, unless it's a big game.
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The formative years play an important role in creating tribalism and attachment to a club. It becomes even more profound if the club plays attractive football and enjoys relative success. Unfortunately, we've lacked both over the past decade, so it's no surprise that SE85's child dislikes football. Our struggles and setbacks could make anyone hate football. Most of us persevere because of the deep connection we formed with the club during our formative years.
posted on 27/11/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
"The wage bill was down by £10.1m to £80.2m for the quarter."
Doesn't the lack of CL account for that?
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Oh yeah, shiiiiit, I forgot about that. It was reductions of between 15% and 25% for most players wasn’t it?
So what I basically meant was…
Some good news: We aren’t in the CL this season.
posted on 27/11/24
That’s pretty depressing actually, when we got Varane, Sancho (largely) and Martial, as well as a good number of relatively low earners, off the wage bill
posted on 27/11/24
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
"The wage bill was down by £10.1m to £80.2m for the quarter."
Doesn't the lack of CL account for that?
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Oh yeah, shiiiiit, I forgot about that. It was reductions of between 15% and 25% for most players wasn’t it?
So what I basically meant was…
Some good news: We aren’t in the CL this season.
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Or next season most likely 😂
posted on 27/11/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 33 minutes ago
The formative years play an important role in creating tribalism and attachment to a club. It becomes even more profound if the club plays attractive football and enjoys relative success. Unfortunately, we've lacked both over the past decade, so it's no surprise that SE85's child dislikes football. Our struggles and setbacks could make anyone hate football. Most of us persevere because of the deep connection we formed with the club during our formative years.
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To some extent. But there are lots of counter-examples. My connection to United was forged in the Ron Atkinson years, where more often than not the emotion was disappointment. My kids were too young to take in the glory of the late-Fergie years, so they've only really known mediocrity, but they're avid United fans. One of my school friends wasn't interested in football at all back in the day. He moved to London in his 20s and next thing I knew he was a passionate Chelsea fan (pre-Abramovich boom years).
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Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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I have a daughter who is 30. She's only been to OT once ever and that was the 1999 CL Final charity game at OT. I have only ever had to buy her 2 shirts when she was young. One had Beckham on the back... the other with Ronaldo. So you can probably see her motivation for wanting those. Now she has her own kid who has to wear Spurs gear as Dad is a Tottenham fan. Ive even bought her a Spurs shirt for Xmas. I feel violated.
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posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
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comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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I have a daughter who is 30. She's only been to OT once ever and that was the 1999 CL Final charity game at OT. I have only ever had to buy her 2 shirts when she was young. One had Beckham on the back... the other with Ronaldo. So you can probably see her motivation for wanting those. Now she has her own kid who has to wear Spurs gear as Dad is a Tottenham fan. Ive even bought her a Spurs shirt for Xmas. I feel violated.
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Your feelings are nothing compared to the lifetime of suffering and disappointment your granddaughter will experience.
posted on 27/11/24
We aren’t skint , it’s just Jim wants to upgrade his yacht
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comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Fully anticipating another hike in ST prices again next year too. It was frozen for a good long time until recently so the bump was justified tbf. Wouldn't shock me if it goes up again.
Football is in big danger of imploding. These players don't deserve what they are earning now and that's across all the PL clubs not just United.
I have a 10 year old son who isn't into football so he doesn't come with me. My god I have tried to get him into it but he's just not interested at all. Saving me a fortune in long run though. 😂
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We are in agreement here. Same thing with my lad. Now 25 and totally uninterested in football.
There was a four- or five-year period where he played in goal and had all the DDG memorabilia, though.
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He's into music and plays guitar so that will do for me. That's my other big passion.
Feels like I failed as a Dad because he doesn't really like Sport and I'm obsessed with it but we decided to just let him choose his own path.
In some ways it might be a good thing though as most of his mates are City fans as they are 10 so will obviously all choose the successful team of the moment. Can you imagine if he asked me for a City shirt for Christmas? I'd disown him. 😂
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I have a daughter who is 30. She's only been to OT once ever and that was the 1999 CL Final charity game at OT. I have only ever had to buy her 2 shirts when she was young. One had Beckham on the back... the other with Ronaldo. So you can probably see her motivation for wanting those. Now she has her own kid who has to wear Spurs gear as Dad is a Tottenham fan. Ive even bought her a Spurs shirt for Xmas. I feel violated.
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Your feelings are nothing compared to the lifetime of suffering and disappointment your granddaughter will experience.
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In my daughters household he gets more pleasure out of seeing Arsenal lose than seeing Spurs win. I believe this is a common trait with Spurs fans. His problem is is that Spurs dont win that often and Arsenal do. So its a double whammy of dissappointment usually. My daughter prays that Spurs win and Arsenal lose every weekend for a quiet and contented life.
posted on 27/11/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
It is inevitable that should you build a new stadium that prices will rise.
Firstly, it's natural where fans will have a much improved facility to watch their team - Bars, big screens, more loos, perfect views. Even things like a working mobile signal is a massive plus.
Secondly, it will be hugely expensive. While up to 20k extra seats will increase your matchday 25%, pro rata, you need to make much bigger gains to pay off financing and generate more 'disposable income'.
Some of this can be done through expanded corporate provision, which brings in top dollar and Utd probably have massive scope for this. Other will be through expanded uses of the stadium (commercial revenues) but the big jump in revenues that the likes of Spurs and Arsenal achieved with new grounds was achieved through matchday revenues. Spurs went from about £45m to about £110m. So about 250% increase despite just a 66% increase in capacity.
That was achieved through extensive corporate provision, fairly large price rises and also through hugely expanded food & drink outlets. Spurs reportedly make £800k - £1m per game on food and drink, much of which is very reasonably priced, to encourage fans to arrive early and get stuck in
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seasoned United fans usually wait til one minute before KO to take thier seats at Old Trafford
posted on 27/11/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
It is inevitable that should you build a new stadium that prices will rise.
Firstly, it's natural where fans will have a much improved facility to watch their team - Bars, big screens, more loos, perfect views. Even things like a working mobile signal is a massive plus.
Secondly, it will be hugely expensive. While up to 20k extra seats will increase your matchday 25%, pro rata, you need to make much bigger gains to pay off financing and generate more 'disposable income'.
Some of this can be done through expanded corporate provision, which brings in top dollar and Utd probably have massive scope for this. Other will be through expanded uses of the stadium (commercial revenues) but the big jump in revenues that the likes of Spurs and Arsenal achieved with new grounds was achieved through matchday revenues. Spurs went from about £45m to about £110m. So about 250% increase despite just a 66% increase in capacity.
That was achieved through extensive corporate provision, fairly large price rises and also through hugely expanded food & drink outlets. Spurs reportedly make £800k - £1m per game on food and drink, much of which is very reasonably priced, to encourage fans to arrive early and get stuck in
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seasoned United fans usually wait til one minute before KO to take thier seats at Old Trafford
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How's Sir Jim expected to milk fans if they don't arrive before KO ?
Seriously though, if you ever se footage of Spurs stadium bars b4 and after games, they are packed full of folk drinking and singing. Beer/food prices are good, you dont fell like you're being milked and there plenty of things there to attract you b4 the game. It's a real success without feeling like exploitation of fans.
posted on 27/11/24
Does feel like a bit of a slap in the face given what you've had to put up with for the last 10 years or so and the cuts they've already made.
I understand that the way the club was run previously resulted in a different approach being needed this time around but I don't think they're exactly nailing it.
Plus surely there's a chance that pricing certain fans out of being able to afford tickets will result in a worse atmosphere at games, potentially having an adverse affect on what happens on the pitch and costing the club money that way?
posted on 27/11/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Does feel like a bit of a slap in the face given what you've had to put up with for the last 10 years or so and the cuts they've already made.
I understand that the way the club was run previously resulted in a different approach being needed this time around but I don't think they're exactly nailing it.
Plus surely there's a chance that pricing certain fans out of being able to afford tickets will result in a worse atmosphere at games, potentially having an adverse affect on what happens on the pitch and costing the club money that way?
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the Glazers did price the more local, working class, and lets face it often 'beered up' traditional fans who had been going for years before when they took over who actually collectively protested wearing Green & Gold scarves and some boycotted games, some even set their own replacement football club and never returned, and to be fair the atmospehere ever since at OT has never been quite the same. But as I mentioned United/Glazers and now INEOS regard the vast Red Army as Cannon Fodder and they believe rightly or wrongly that other more wealthier, obedient fans will always fill the gaps in the ranks as the oiks fall away. And then they make even more money. United are brilliant at using our name and history to make sheds load of money.
posted on 27/11/24
and good luck to Ruud at Leicester City
posted on 27/11/24
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgw6y6p19eo
posted on 27/11/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
and good luck to Ruud at Leicester City
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Yes, I second that!
posted on 28/11/24
Utd have always taken the pi55 when it comes to ticket prices.
As an away fan for a League Cup game a few years ago, Utd purposely ignored the "£30" away ticket price used in the Prem and charged us £45 ....... I didn't go.
Fast forward a few years and we get drawn away at Liverpool at the same stage of the competition and its £13 a ticket.............. we sold 6,000.
Utd can burn in hell.
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