Well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

I've just seen the PW comments and although not worded in the best way there are certain matches ( Leeds, Burnley etc ) whilst we're down to a threadbare squad you have to write off.

After that the next three games have to be generating 7 points otherwise the situation at PP unfortunately will be rather hostile for a manager that's not well suited to our more pernickety and vocal fan base.

I hope he survives this and does the job required

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Well said, all.

I have no complaints about our approach to the Leeds game given the gulf in class and resources. As PW said, a more expansive approach could have led to a multi-goal hammering and what good would that have done?!

But I think we can ask why we seem so timid against lesser opposition because we could and should have gleaned more points with a more aggressive approach in some other games.

I agree we frequently look panicky on the ball, but I think the fundamental issue is a lack of technical quality which means that when they are put under pressure they give the ball away. Only one or two such as Kenzo are comfortable to receive the ball when pressed and that's not enough to get some play going. Against lesser teams this season we have been able to engage in a scrappy game where we might come out on top by resolute defending and doing well at set-pieces. Against better teams like Leeds we have little to no chance because they are good enough to keep the ball and we are not.

Warne knows this of course. His comments yesterday were taken out of context by those who want to find a stick to beat him with. What he said made sense to me - at half time we were looking like getting a thrashing but by staying in the game there was a small chance we might nick one in the final quarter and that Leeds would get nervous. A small chance but to me our best one.

A centre forward who can hold the ball up would be a great help as would midfielders who can receive the ball and move it to others quickly. Ozoh and perhaps Chirewa might help and of course we need Adams back for strength even though he is not a great passer.

We knew it would be a tough old season and as Van The Man said my mama told me there'd be days like this.

>>>>if we can get a CM to help us unleash him we can get back to picking up more.

Now you are talking, but there is only one Chris Martin.

I just won a bet with myself that you would pop up and mention His Wardrobeness, VC.

comment by VC10Ram (U18980)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
>>>>if we can get a CM to help us unleash him we can get back to picking up more.

Now you are talking, but there is only one Chris Martin.
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He must be getting-on for 40 odd now. 🤔

VC? Closer to 400.

We are where we are as a club. Elsewhere I've seen posters calling for Warne to be sacked. Crazy talk. The club is still losing money and we're struggling somewhat atm. To sack him and his management team would cost Clowes a fortune...and still with no guarantee that whoever took over eould

Sigh... to continue :
We are where we are as a club. Elsewhere I've seen posters calling for Warne to be sacked. Crazy talk. The club is still losing money and we're struggling somewhat atm. To sack him and his management team would cost Clowes a fortune...and still with no guarantee that whoever took over would do any better.
To put things into context, our entire squad cost £5m to assemble. Rodon who scored Leeds 1st cost a reported £10m...their whole squad £140m...OK, not every Champ club has spent that, but many have spent huge amounts compared to us. We just have to stick together as a group. Let's avoid relegation and build from there...

Until the discrepancy of wealth created by parachute payments is ditched all clubs without such payments will struggle. As we are one of the better supported sides in the championship we should eventually be able to compete as Sunderland are doing this season but usually at least two promotion places are taken by clubs relegated the previous season.

Warne is in tune with modern ideas about pace and quick transitions but clubs like ours are unlikely to be able to sign or develop players with the pace and control to make this system work.

I think we could have given Leeds a game if we'd tried to go forward occasionally. I thought they were a bit nervous just before they scored.

We had 3 centre halves and then put Wilson against their tallest player, even when he had a rehearsal a few minutes before. This is the manager's fault, he sets up the team.

We can't afford to sack PW, but I would rather have kept Liam Rosenior as manager.

I just hope we can manage 4th bottom, if we get relegated the club will be in a right old mess.

Will Hughes had a good game yesterday, nice to see a good passer, made 2 goals. If only Wally had brought on Bamford instead of Dawkins.....

An inordinate amount of airtime has been given to PW's post-match comments - "league one team with a bit of sugar on top." "Sack him" has been a typical response; even "I'm not going again until he is gone".

I have to say that when I heard his words I did not respond either positively or negatively, possibly because I heard it and heard the rest of it all in context. If you just read those words then they may seem a bit off but verbal inflexion is everything. I find it hard to think any of the players would have been upset by it.

I remember Nigel Clough giving Thomas Cewka (?) a verbal hammering for an inconsidered pass down the flank which yielded possession but nothing more. "If he does that again he can go back to Poland or wherever he's from". Fans were up in arms about it but the lad himself said he fully deserved it.

There is no fun in being a public figure now. Every single word spoken is scrutinised and the slightest possibility of misconstruction is seized on. So many people are far too sensitive and willing to find the worst in public pronouncements. If nought but the truth is being said, swallow it and get on with life, I say.

PS The footie under LR may have been better but I'm not convinced he would have got us promotion.

Sound stuff Chicago

comment by Chicagoram (U22653)
posted 13 hours, 13 minutes ago
PS The footie under LR may have been better but I'm not convinced he would have got us promotion.
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We'll never really know. Liam is now managing a club in France's top division pitting his wits against PSG, Marseille, Monaco etc...

I have wondered if we'd ever see PW playing his trade in a European league with Warneball.