posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I don't think anyone would care if Ange was sacked before the cup game. I could see why fans were when Jose was sacked before the final, but we are currently a team with so little hope facing a team that is smashing it right now and we can't even beat teams near the bottom.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think anyone would care if Ange was sacked before the cup game. I could see why fans were when Jose was sacked before the final, but we are currently a team with so little hope facing a team that is smashing it right now and we can't even beat teams near the bottom.
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The fan base is truly split and many do support Ange and truly believe he will turn it around the current problems.
Ledley King is among those who have asked Levy for clarifications of current state at the club, is the club still trusting Ange or not.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
The Reguilon situation has been a bit odd, he would have made an ok back up LB, and given that we are short of cover / rotation options at LB, it is bizarre that he has not been used more. He was almost completely ostracized from the squad.
I wouldn`t mind betting that this has something to do with the number of games he plays, whereby if he makes a certain number of appearances, the club has to pay another significant lump of transfer fee.
This would explain him being transfer listed and the clear reluctance to ever use him, except in extreme circumstances like today.
This kind of scenario would have Daniel Levy`s fingerprints all over it.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
The Reguilon situation has been a bit odd, he would have made an ok back up LB, and given that we are short of cover / rotation options at LB, it is bizarre that he has not been used more. He was almost completely ostracized from the squad.
I wouldn`t mind betting that this has something to do with the number of games he plays, whereby if he makes a certain number of appearances, the club has to pay another significant lump of transfer fee.
This would explain him being transfer listed and the clear reluctance to ever use him, except in extreme circumstances like today.
This kind of scenario would have Daniel Levy`s fingerprints all over it.
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This kind of mess with bang average players bought are remnants of the chairman interfering in footballing business and I have to say this is the daftest way to waste club money and just causes grief to any manager!
Wish Lsvy just stuck to signing cheques - and leave football to the people he’s hired for that!
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
* Levy
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
What a total mess this club is. Absolute joke on the football field and has been for years.
Daniel levy should be preparing a resignation statement. Anything else is just folly and we will be back here in 12 months.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
OP, problem is Spurs are not really playing high intensity football. Midfield all but vanished 2nd half, and Wolves pretty well bossed the game once Sours went in front.
I see next to no high intensity stuff from any of the midfield. They are incredibly weak in any 50/50 coming together. The only bit of intensity was Bentancur and his reckless challenge, which could easily have seen Red.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I hope this Terzic stuff is nonsense. If nothing else than it means the board have no idea. Posted on Reddit after after he quit Dortmund:
Well as a dortmund local, season ticket holder and previous semi-pro myself, I can tell you that the results might look okay on paper, we were struggling badly though and will suffer from transfer decisions that he wanted for quite some time financially.
He was brought in to get better results than Rose, which he didn’t. In his first season he got 2 points more than rose, despite the fact that he had the most influence on our squad from any our previous coaches since he was a squad planner before and then became coach.
Let’s look at the results. 3 out of 4 halves of the two seasons were far below average in our terms, only the second half of the first season in the Bundesliga was good. Champions league run was highly lucky, as to the xGa we should have lost PSG and Atlético. So 3/4 of the halves were terrible, why should he get more chances? On top of that, we would have missed the CL for the first time in a long long time due to only placing 5th. Any coach would have been fired for that, rose and Favre got fired for less. Terzic is the neighbor of Watzke and he pretty much didn’t want to kick out his friend. If he was held to the same standards as any other coach, he would have been gone after 6 months.
Transfers were horrific. For over 15 years we have had strikers with depth that could threaten the opponent with deep runs and without any necessity, he changed what made us strong the years before. We got Haller, Modeste and Füllkrug, who were lost up front and didn’t have enough speed to pose a threat, hence we had quite a few problems creating chances.
The transfers he was involved in mostly flopped.
He was unable to integrate any of our big talents. Moukoko, Reyna, Gittens, Adeyemi and all the others did not make a step forward. This creates an issue when we rely on sales to keep our high wages going. So we signed old players and developed no talents anymore, which will hurt us tremendously in 2-3 years.
His playing approach is passive. He wants to overplay the midfield area instead of doing what every top club does: make the opponent tired, control the center. Whoever controls midfield, controls the game. He saw it differently. We were number 1 in long passes (>30m) last season. Ahead of Heidenheim, Köln, Darmstadt. More than double the passes than Bayern and Leverkusen in that department. That’s a big issue because you’ll run into counter attacks because our strikers aren’t good enough technically to keep the ball. So instead of controlling the game, we got pure chaos. Uncountable games where we were up 2:0 and lost 2:3. no big club plays like this, yet he didn’t see anything wrong with it.
Lastly, he lost the team with his decisions. Our players wanted to play good football and some spilled the beans in interviews. Füllkrug, Brandt, Kobel, Hummels and others. There were issues with terzic when he started giving excuses and blaming losses on the team not following his plan.
This is the short version, I could go on longer. It was the most unattractive football I’ve seen from a coach that was there longer than a few months.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Of course the board have no idea ffs. What more evidence do you need than the last six f a cking years?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Yeah fair enough. I guess I was optimistic that with Ange and Lange and Munn and everything we actually had a direction though. Even if they were bound to fack it up. If we hire Terzic it's another 180 on style and he's not even good. Just praying this is his agent trying to make him relevant
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 43 minutes ago
Of course the board have no idea ffs. What more evidence do you need than the last six f a cking years?
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Why have you highlighted just the last six....
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 43 minutes ago
Of course the board have no idea ffs. What more evidence do you need than the last six f a cking years?
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Fair point. I think it’s been particularly disastrous in the last six as we have gone from champions league runners up to relegation form. All because of the hapless incompetence of herr leader
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Total mess from top to bottom.
I want Ange out but have no faith Levy would appoint the right man and then back them sufficiently.
Only positive I would say is there is some talent to work with in the squad. The keeper and first choice back 4 are quality. Kulu and Madders high class players. Solanke an excellent striker. Gray will be a star and I'm sure Son still has something left in the tank under a better manager.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Men with Ven (U7905)
posted 18 minutes ago
Total mess from top to bottom.
I want Ange out but have no faith Levy would appoint the right man and then back them sufficiently.
Only positive I would say is there is some talent to work with in the squad. The keeper and first choice back 4 are quality. Kulu and Madders high class players. Solanke an excellent striker. Gray will be a star and I'm sure Son still has something left in the tank under a better manager.
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I agree about Kulu, Gray and Solanke. Madders though is not good enough, came on yesterday, had a chance to take the game by the scruff of the neck, and failed woefully. Son is gone now, no room for sentiment. This has to be his last season at Spurs.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I actually think Bergvall could end up an very good player to be honest. I like him. Always shows for the ball and seems positive. Yea, he's raw but at his age I have no issue with some of the mistakes he makes of he is trying to do the right thing
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Men with Ven (U7905)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Total mess from top to bottom.
I want Ange out but have no faith Levy would appoint the right man and then back them sufficiently.
Only positive I would say is there is some talent to work with in the squad. The keeper and first choice back 4 are quality. Kulu and Madders high class players. Solanke an excellent striker. Gray will be a star and I'm sure Son still has something left in the tank under a better manager.
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You're right we do have talent in the squad. I think people underestimate the quality sometimes when players can look poorer than they are when things aren't going well and the system isn't working. This is a team that should be somewhere in the top half, even with the injuries.
You saw one example of where the coaching could be better yesterday. The way Wolves scored with their free kick shows a level of detail in training that is absent at Spurs. Our players make up what they do with free kicks on the spot, other teams work on them in training. Their coach even said they did their homework on us to score that. Ange doesn't do this.
It's pretty much time for a new manager now. It's not going to get much better from here. That was our most winnable game of the next set of fixtures and we had a fit first 11 apart from the 2 CBs and keeper. Should have still been enough to beat the 17th placed team at home.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Levy has to just pay Iraola whatever is needed, give him the necessary budget and then faaaack off on a 10 year holiday - preferably somewhere with no internet or mobile phone connection. Every few months Levy’s versions of speckled Jim will turn up with a little note attached - which we will promptly shoot and eat.
in 10 years time he can come back and complain about how much those trophies have cost us
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 38 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He is improving at each club, plays good football, adapts to situations well and would seemingly be happy working with our budget.
I get Poch vibes from him and I think he is the manager we need for the rebuild - whether he can win a trophy is another story, but I think 3 seasons with him in charge and we will be in a much better shape as a club
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 38 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He is improving at each club, plays good football, adapts to situations well and would seemingly be happy working with our budget.
I get Poch vibes from him and I think he is the manager we need for the rebuild - whether he can win a trophy is another story, but I think 3 seasons with him in charge and we will be in a much better shape as a club
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You can't say 3 seasons because if he doesn't have a good start we can clearly see with spurs fans that they will turn very quickly.
Rebuild or not, injuries or not, fans will turn.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 38 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He is improving at each club, plays good football, adapts to situations well and would seemingly be happy working with our budget.
I get Poch vibes from him and I think he is the manager we need for the rebuild - whether he can win a trophy is another story, but I think 3 seasons with him in charge and we will be in a much better shape as a club
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You can't say 3 seasons because if he doesn't have a good start we can clearly see with spurs fans that they will turn very quickly.
Rebuild or not, injuries or not, fans will turn.
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Give him at least the same amount of time and then see how much progress there is between the first month and the 16th month, or however far along we are with Ange.
A lot of fans seem to be afraid of making another change of manager, but that's the whole idea isn't it? If a manager has had a good amount of time in charge and the form isn't good enough, you get rid and then see if the next manager is any better.
It's really not like the form could be any worse with a replacement is it? If we lose to Newcastle this will be the worst spell of form we've had over 8 games since the 2 points from 8 Ramos spell...and we've had various sackings since then on account of poor form. Redknapp had 1 win in 9 in his last season towards the end, but guess what? He lost his job after that season and still finished top 4 (for a 2nd time).
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He's just another flavour of the manager month. If he came to Spyrs, he probably wouldn't last six months.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
The word is that no manager could succeed at Spurs because our fans apparently turn quicker than milk once things turn south!
Looks like Ange may get a reprieve from Levy until the end of season.
The knives have been put back in the drawer for now!
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 13 minutes ago
The word is that no manager could succeed at Spurs because our fans apparently turn quicker than milk once things turn south!
Looks like Ange may get a reprieve from Levy until the end of season.
The knives have been put back in the drawer for now!
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It's gone south ever since April and we're now just about to enter into January. That's 14 losses and 10 wins. I don't think you can say fans have turned quickly.
On current form Newcastle should beat us at home and then it's Liverpool. The knives are on standby and next week he will most likely get the chop.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Newcastle have recently resurrected their good form and have been looking really good. They would in all probability put us through a sword!! I sure hope not but in this contest, we are the ones who need all the prayers we can muster!
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posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I don't think anyone would care if Ange was sacked before the cup game. I could see why fans were when Jose was sacked before the final, but we are currently a team with so little hope facing a team that is smashing it right now and we can't even beat teams near the bottom.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think anyone would care if Ange was sacked before the cup game. I could see why fans were when Jose was sacked before the final, but we are currently a team with so little hope facing a team that is smashing it right now and we can't even beat teams near the bottom.
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The fan base is truly split and many do support Ange and truly believe he will turn it around the current problems.
Ledley King is among those who have asked Levy for clarifications of current state at the club, is the club still trusting Ange or not.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
The Reguilon situation has been a bit odd, he would have made an ok back up LB, and given that we are short of cover / rotation options at LB, it is bizarre that he has not been used more. He was almost completely ostracized from the squad.
I wouldn`t mind betting that this has something to do with the number of games he plays, whereby if he makes a certain number of appearances, the club has to pay another significant lump of transfer fee.
This would explain him being transfer listed and the clear reluctance to ever use him, except in extreme circumstances like today.
This kind of scenario would have Daniel Levy`s fingerprints all over it.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
The Reguilon situation has been a bit odd, he would have made an ok back up LB, and given that we are short of cover / rotation options at LB, it is bizarre that he has not been used more. He was almost completely ostracized from the squad.
I wouldn`t mind betting that this has something to do with the number of games he plays, whereby if he makes a certain number of appearances, the club has to pay another significant lump of transfer fee.
This would explain him being transfer listed and the clear reluctance to ever use him, except in extreme circumstances like today.
This kind of scenario would have Daniel Levy`s fingerprints all over it.
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This kind of mess with bang average players bought are remnants of the chairman interfering in footballing business and I have to say this is the daftest way to waste club money and just causes grief to any manager!
Wish Lsvy just stuck to signing cheques - and leave football to the people he’s hired for that!
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
* Levy
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
What a total mess this club is. Absolute joke on the football field and has been for years.
Daniel levy should be preparing a resignation statement. Anything else is just folly and we will be back here in 12 months.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
OP, problem is Spurs are not really playing high intensity football. Midfield all but vanished 2nd half, and Wolves pretty well bossed the game once Sours went in front.
I see next to no high intensity stuff from any of the midfield. They are incredibly weak in any 50/50 coming together. The only bit of intensity was Bentancur and his reckless challenge, which could easily have seen Red.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I hope this Terzic stuff is nonsense. If nothing else than it means the board have no idea. Posted on Reddit after after he quit Dortmund:
Well as a dortmund local, season ticket holder and previous semi-pro myself, I can tell you that the results might look okay on paper, we were struggling badly though and will suffer from transfer decisions that he wanted for quite some time financially.
He was brought in to get better results than Rose, which he didn’t. In his first season he got 2 points more than rose, despite the fact that he had the most influence on our squad from any our previous coaches since he was a squad planner before and then became coach.
Let’s look at the results. 3 out of 4 halves of the two seasons were far below average in our terms, only the second half of the first season in the Bundesliga was good. Champions league run was highly lucky, as to the xGa we should have lost PSG and Atlético. So 3/4 of the halves were terrible, why should he get more chances? On top of that, we would have missed the CL for the first time in a long long time due to only placing 5th. Any coach would have been fired for that, rose and Favre got fired for less. Terzic is the neighbor of Watzke and he pretty much didn’t want to kick out his friend. If he was held to the same standards as any other coach, he would have been gone after 6 months.
Transfers were horrific. For over 15 years we have had strikers with depth that could threaten the opponent with deep runs and without any necessity, he changed what made us strong the years before. We got Haller, Modeste and Füllkrug, who were lost up front and didn’t have enough speed to pose a threat, hence we had quite a few problems creating chances.
The transfers he was involved in mostly flopped.
He was unable to integrate any of our big talents. Moukoko, Reyna, Gittens, Adeyemi and all the others did not make a step forward. This creates an issue when we rely on sales to keep our high wages going. So we signed old players and developed no talents anymore, which will hurt us tremendously in 2-3 years.
His playing approach is passive. He wants to overplay the midfield area instead of doing what every top club does: make the opponent tired, control the center. Whoever controls midfield, controls the game. He saw it differently. We were number 1 in long passes (>30m) last season. Ahead of Heidenheim, Köln, Darmstadt. More than double the passes than Bayern and Leverkusen in that department. That’s a big issue because you’ll run into counter attacks because our strikers aren’t good enough technically to keep the ball. So instead of controlling the game, we got pure chaos. Uncountable games where we were up 2:0 and lost 2:3. no big club plays like this, yet he didn’t see anything wrong with it.
Lastly, he lost the team with his decisions. Our players wanted to play good football and some spilled the beans in interviews. Füllkrug, Brandt, Kobel, Hummels and others. There were issues with terzic when he started giving excuses and blaming losses on the team not following his plan.
This is the short version, I could go on longer. It was the most unattractive football I’ve seen from a coach that was there longer than a few months.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Of course the board have no idea ffs. What more evidence do you need than the last six f a cking years?
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Yeah fair enough. I guess I was optimistic that with Ange and Lange and Munn and everything we actually had a direction though. Even if they were bound to fack it up. If we hire Terzic it's another 180 on style and he's not even good. Just praying this is his agent trying to make him relevant
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 43 minutes ago
Of course the board have no idea ffs. What more evidence do you need than the last six f a cking years?
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Why have you highlighted just the last six....
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 43 minutes ago
Of course the board have no idea ffs. What more evidence do you need than the last six f a cking years?
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Fair point. I think it’s been particularly disastrous in the last six as we have gone from champions league runners up to relegation form. All because of the hapless incompetence of herr leader
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Total mess from top to bottom.
I want Ange out but have no faith Levy would appoint the right man and then back them sufficiently.
Only positive I would say is there is some talent to work with in the squad. The keeper and first choice back 4 are quality. Kulu and Madders high class players. Solanke an excellent striker. Gray will be a star and I'm sure Son still has something left in the tank under a better manager.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Men with Ven (U7905)
posted 18 minutes ago
Total mess from top to bottom.
I want Ange out but have no faith Levy would appoint the right man and then back them sufficiently.
Only positive I would say is there is some talent to work with in the squad. The keeper and first choice back 4 are quality. Kulu and Madders high class players. Solanke an excellent striker. Gray will be a star and I'm sure Son still has something left in the tank under a better manager.
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I agree about Kulu, Gray and Solanke. Madders though is not good enough, came on yesterday, had a chance to take the game by the scruff of the neck, and failed woefully. Son is gone now, no room for sentiment. This has to be his last season at Spurs.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I actually think Bergvall could end up an very good player to be honest. I like him. Always shows for the ball and seems positive. Yea, he's raw but at his age I have no issue with some of the mistakes he makes of he is trying to do the right thing
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Men with Ven (U7905)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Total mess from top to bottom.
I want Ange out but have no faith Levy would appoint the right man and then back them sufficiently.
Only positive I would say is there is some talent to work with in the squad. The keeper and first choice back 4 are quality. Kulu and Madders high class players. Solanke an excellent striker. Gray will be a star and I'm sure Son still has something left in the tank under a better manager.
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You're right we do have talent in the squad. I think people underestimate the quality sometimes when players can look poorer than they are when things aren't going well and the system isn't working. This is a team that should be somewhere in the top half, even with the injuries.
You saw one example of where the coaching could be better yesterday. The way Wolves scored with their free kick shows a level of detail in training that is absent at Spurs. Our players make up what they do with free kicks on the spot, other teams work on them in training. Their coach even said they did their homework on us to score that. Ange doesn't do this.
It's pretty much time for a new manager now. It's not going to get much better from here. That was our most winnable game of the next set of fixtures and we had a fit first 11 apart from the 2 CBs and keeper. Should have still been enough to beat the 17th placed team at home.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Levy has to just pay Iraola whatever is needed, give him the necessary budget and then faaaack off on a 10 year holiday - preferably somewhere with no internet or mobile phone connection. Every few months Levy’s versions of speckled Jim will turn up with a little note attached - which we will promptly shoot and eat.
in 10 years time he can come back and complain about how much those trophies have cost us
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 38 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He is improving at each club, plays good football, adapts to situations well and would seemingly be happy working with our budget.
I get Poch vibes from him and I think he is the manager we need for the rebuild - whether he can win a trophy is another story, but I think 3 seasons with him in charge and we will be in a much better shape as a club
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 38 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He is improving at each club, plays good football, adapts to situations well and would seemingly be happy working with our budget.
I get Poch vibes from him and I think he is the manager we need for the rebuild - whether he can win a trophy is another story, but I think 3 seasons with him in charge and we will be in a much better shape as a club
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You can't say 3 seasons because if he doesn't have a good start we can clearly see with spurs fans that they will turn very quickly.
Rebuild or not, injuries or not, fans will turn.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 38 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He is improving at each club, plays good football, adapts to situations well and would seemingly be happy working with our budget.
I get Poch vibes from him and I think he is the manager we need for the rebuild - whether he can win a trophy is another story, but I think 3 seasons with him in charge and we will be in a much better shape as a club
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You can't say 3 seasons because if he doesn't have a good start we can clearly see with spurs fans that they will turn very quickly.
Rebuild or not, injuries or not, fans will turn.
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Give him at least the same amount of time and then see how much progress there is between the first month and the 16th month, or however far along we are with Ange.
A lot of fans seem to be afraid of making another change of manager, but that's the whole idea isn't it? If a manager has had a good amount of time in charge and the form isn't good enough, you get rid and then see if the next manager is any better.
It's really not like the form could be any worse with a replacement is it? If we lose to Newcastle this will be the worst spell of form we've had over 8 games since the 2 points from 8 Ramos spell...and we've had various sackings since then on account of poor form. Redknapp had 1 win in 9 in his last season towards the end, but guess what? He lost his job after that season and still finished top 4 (for a 2nd time).
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
Not sure what the clamour is for Iraola.
Yes, he is currently doing well with Bournemouth.
They are 6th at the moment but could drop down to 8th when the other teams play their game in hand.
He got them to 12th last season.
We are at the half way mark now so where do you think they will end up? Probably between 6th-12th at a guess.
It is very good for a team like Bournemouth but nothing special. They lost to West Ham in the first round of the league cup.
He has never won anything as a manager and was sacked from his first job.
He lasted a year in his first job and he left after one year in his second job. He did last 3 years in his third job where he got a spanish team promoted from div 2.
As I say he is doing well but not exactly pulling up trees.
He plays good football which I think is something we have to have rather than a conservative coach but I think it would be a massive risk.
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He's just another flavour of the manager month. If he came to Spyrs, he probably wouldn't last six months.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
The word is that no manager could succeed at Spurs because our fans apparently turn quicker than milk once things turn south!
Looks like Ange may get a reprieve from Levy until the end of season.
The knives have been put back in the drawer for now!
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 13 minutes ago
The word is that no manager could succeed at Spurs because our fans apparently turn quicker than milk once things turn south!
Looks like Ange may get a reprieve from Levy until the end of season.
The knives have been put back in the drawer for now!
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It's gone south ever since April and we're now just about to enter into January. That's 14 losses and 10 wins. I don't think you can say fans have turned quickly.
On current form Newcastle should beat us at home and then it's Liverpool. The knives are on standby and next week he will most likely get the chop.
posted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
Newcastle have recently resurrected their good form and have been looking really good. They would in all probability put us through a sword!! I sure hope not but in this contest, we are the ones who need all the prayers we can muster!
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