I’m afraid Leicester will be going down with or without a points deduction this year

In which case, it might be better to take the hit anyway 👍🏼

comment by HEY, WE'RE BACK (U22866)
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I’m afraid Leicester will be going down with or without a points deduction this year

In which case, it might be better to take the hit anyway 👍🏼
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Well thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious 😂 Yeah I think we’ve all figured out we’re going down regardless.

We go straight under an embargo with the EFL in any case for the 22/23 breach which we got away with but is now firmly under their jurisdiction

Whichever way you look at it we’re snookered. That’s why we need these owners out

Update from Rob Tanner - it looks like the KDH sale is included in the 23/24 figures. There still seems to be some uncertainty on this as it was very very close to the deadline. Adrian Silva anyone??

I had been wondering when we might find out about any potential points deduction, I'd seen somewhere that it could be relatively early in the year. Any idea how much it might be? Given that the club's reaction on past performance will be to reach for the lawyers and try and embarrass the EPL again, I'm expecting zero mitigation if they reckon we're caught bang to rights this time.

Also the EFL will be positively slavering at the prospect of us dropping into the Championship where we'll get charges a'plenty for previous breaches.

One of the reasons why I couldn't get too excited last year with us heading the Championship, the prospect of having another dire season in the Premier League. Still, we're not out of it yet, with some quality additions in the transfer window Ruud might just pull us out of the fire. (Rudders)

Expected breach is about £12m apparently - even with the KDH sale. Not huge but enough to be charged and if we are then they will attempt to throw the book at us.

The club are an embarrassment as are the fans that have defended them to the hilt only to then sheepishly disappear from these boards when it becomes impossible to continue defending them

We'll see shortly by the sounds of it what they may have in mind. At least we'll know what's facing us then, I suspect it will make a very difficult task almost impossible. There are calls for Rudkin out from time to time, he may be on last chance saloon with this transfer window. We can but hope.

Punishing fans for the owners misdeeds is just a ridiculous thing to do but hey ho.

I know I keep asking the question but where are TB and Mersey?

Why don’t they show a bit of backbone and either stand by their conviction that Top and the board are learning from their mistakes or do the decent thing and admit they got it wrong?

Instead what they’ve both done is crawl away from the forum the moment it all started to unravel when we hired Cooper. Of course I hope genuinely they’re in good health and nothing except perhaps embarrassment is preventing them contributing

The club has properly snookered themselves over this. A points deduction this season means we are 100% relegated (let's face it, we are most likely going down anyway, this would just be the final nail in the coffin), and then face the prospect of the EFL hitting us with a points deduction for our previous breach, likely followed by a transfer ban and possibly an enforced business plan (which, TBH, might not be the worst thing in the world, seeing as how the club seems incapable of producing one). Which likely means at least 2 seasons in the EFL, assuming we somehow get our act together. Which means we are back to being the yo-yo club that Vichai moved us away from being.

I am seeing a few fans already either defending the club, or saying that it is PL/EFL spite moreso than incompetence from the owners. To be clear, two things can simultaneously be true:

1) The PL implemented financial rules that have either unwittingly or deliberately curtailed the prospects of clubs like Leicester from challenging the elite ("we don't want too many Leicester Citys" ) and both they and the EFL are deliberately coming after us to make a statement;

2) The ownership have known about these rules for a very long time and have done a disastrously bad job in ensuring the club complies with them, and have allowed incompetence and negligence from the 2021 summer transfer window onwards to ruin almost a decade of progress, putting us at the mercy of the vultures.

I will also add that the legitimacy of argument #1 is also currently being challenged, as clubs who have been promoted long after us and have had even less time to build their status to comply with the rules, are currently challenging for the very European places we were in pre-2021 (see: Forest, Bournemouth, Brighton).

Overall, it is just a very bleak situation for supporters of the club as they watch a club that achieved so much be just torn apart, mostly due to our own incompetence and negligence. This has, so far, been the worst season supporting the club IMO. Even the 2007-08 season wasn't quite as bleak as this. I have a ticket for the Fulham gave but I am not even sure if I will bother going or not, as I am not sure it's worth getting cold and miserable for 90 minutes of dross as we get closer to relegation and all that will entail over the next few years.

Happy New Year!

Foxello, I find little to disagree with in your comments. Even point 1 has some foundation from our own actions, we've legally made both the EFL and EPL look like mugs over the last couple of years - if I were them I'd be absolutely apoplectic. They can of course bide their time to get their revenge (a dish best served cold), although the EPL are likely to be able to start wreaking havoc at us soon. We've certainly 'poked the bear' or 'pulled the tiger's tail' (insert favourite metaphor here) and I await the outcome of that with some trepidation.

I put the blame for the situation we are in squarely on the management rather than the owners. That it has been allowed to continue without any changes is however down to Top, who has thus far proved himself singularly inadequate for the role he was unfortunately thrust into on the sad demise of Khun Vichai. I keep hoping he'll learn but that fades with every day that Rudders remains in position. I just can't see how Vichai would have presided over such a mess without taking action to adjust the DoF role which has had such a deleterious impact on us over the last 3-4 years with generally poor transfer dealings and oversight of managers.

To end on a slightly brighter note, we're not relegated yet, there have been some good signs from the team recently although performances will need to translate into results. Strengthening is obviously essential so we'll see what happens over the next few weeks.

That's a good point Nuneaton RE making ourselves an even bigger target for the PL and EFL. Whilst humiliating them both by riding roughshod through a set of rules that aren't worth the paper they are written on was entertaining, it has left us in a situation now where any punishments we do get will be at the upper range of the scale, with no chance of mitigation.

I hope the club has some sort of contingency plan in place for what happens if we do get a transfer ban next season. If we are going to be punished anyway, you would hope the club would act accordingly, use this transfer window to bring in 4 or 5 players who will be useful for the Championship next season, and then be in a slightly better position to deal with any such ban. That is what Chelsea did a few years ago. Sadly I don't think the powers that be have any such foresight and we will end up stumbling into more penalties, leaving us with not just a points deduction but a ban on transfers as well. The one good thing might be that youngsters like Will Alves, Brandon Cover and Jeremy Monga actually get a good run in the team next season.

Just seen Dyche has been sacked - surely with an incoming points deduction and rumours of Ruud leaving if Leicester don’t back him this window (and we won’t) - he’s the only candidate left isn’t he??

Just been listening to Ruud on the Boot Room, he doesn't sound too happy about the transfer situation.

When he leaves, Moyes is still available isn't he? Dyche wouldn't be the worst appointment for where we are.

Nuneaton, Moyes has stated that he won’t be interested in joining a club in a relegation fight.
They apparently had promised to back Ruud in January, so I won’t be surprised if he walks if they don’t.
I don’t think anyone can keep this club up without signing a decent quality RB and a winger, as a minimum.