I don't get it. Lankshear and any other academy winger should be ahead of him

I thought we didn’t sign players because we didn’t want to block the route to the first team for the younger players

It was that more bu 115h1t from the levy minions?

Werner was atrocious yesterday

He couldn’t hold the ball or pass to a teammate then misses another 1 on 1

This against non league …..send him back today

comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
I thought we didn’t sign players because we didn’t want to block the route to the first team for the younger players

It was that more bu 115h1t from the levy minions?
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He didn't block Micky Moore yday did he?

Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

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Well Christ only knows what Ange sees.

comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

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When the club don’t sign a much needed centre back, and the managers says he is happy with that and his current squad, including dorrington, then he should play dorrington. Or stop fa cking moaning about injuries. If you don’t rotate, you get injuries. Look at Spence. If he had played more, udogie might not be out for 6 weeks.

God knows why he’s still here

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 16 minutes ago
God knows why he’s still here
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God is big on punishment

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

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Well Christ only knows what Ange sees.
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Maybe we should sign better players and not have to rely on unproven youngsters with no EPL experience.

comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

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When the club don’t sign a much needed centre back, and the managers says he is happy with that and his current squad, including dorrington, then he should play dorrington. Or stop fa cking moaning about injuries. If you don’t rotate, you get injuries. Look at Spence. If he had played more, udogie might not be out for 6 weeks.


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Doubt any manager is going to come out and claim his squad of players are not good enough. Won’t expect any different from Ange.
All fans can see our squad is lacking and no where near strong enough for comps.
Agree rotation is key but with the added pressure of winning games won’t want to be a manager!

The worry with Werner and BJ yesterday is they both looked worse than the Tamworth forward Enoru - a guy who will be working at Zara’s today whilst Timo and BJ will do about 3 hours in world class facilities in North London.

BJ for all his faults, is our top scorer - based purely on that, I am going to move on from him, because he can at least finish his dinner.

Timo - the man adds nothing, absolutely nothing to the side and more often than not is a detractor. I put my hands up, I said in the summer it seemed a sensible signing given it was cheap cover, but I was horribly wrong. You cannot convince me this guy is better than Solomon - a player Leeds fans are raving about, a player we loaned.

Werner and Spence - Ange needs his head resting with regards to the ample/lack of playing time these 2 get

Werner is awful but Son was rested and played half an hour. Solanke similar, played about 40 minutes. We won. Job done.

We all know Werner isnt the future, is a stop gap to fill that side. Sadly he has had to play too much due to injuries, and no doubt if Richi was fit then he would have been at 9, Moore & Odobert on the wings.

Relying on Werner is far from ideal but the lineup pretty much picked itself. I am sure if Dom had started and got injured you'd all be crucifying Ange for this too.

Timo Werner has to be pound for pound (including wages) the worst Spurs player I have ever seen.

The guy is literally stealing a living at Spurs.

I think Ange plays him because he has no other choice at the moment when he wants to rest our best forwards. Yes he should have played Lankshear instead yesterday. No one, I repeat no one, could be worse than Werner

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 34 minutes ago
Timo Werner has to be pound for pound (including wages) the worst Spurs player I have ever seen.

The guy is literally stealing a living at Spurs.

I think Ange plays him because he has no other choice at the moment when he wants to rest our best forwards. Yes he should have played Lankshear instead yesterday. No one, I repeat no one, could be worse than Werner
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At least on a par with Ndombele, although he also brought a $hitty attitude to go with it!

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 34 minutes ago
Timo Werner has to be pound for pound (including wages) the worst Spurs player I have ever seen.

The guy is literally stealing a living at Spurs.

I think Ange plays him because he has no other choice at the moment when he wants to rest our best forwards. Yes he should have played Lankshear instead yesterday. No one, I repeat no one, could be worse than Werner
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At least on a par with Ndombele, although he also brought a $hitty attitude to go with it!
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Ndombele was a waste of money overall I agree. But he did have some magic moments which got me off my seat.

Werner as done absolutely nothing!

comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

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When the club don’t sign a much needed centre back, and the managers says he is happy with that and his current squad, including dorrington, then he should play dorrington. Or stop fa cking moaning about injuries. If you don’t rotate, you get injuries. Look at Spence. If he had played more, udogie might not be out for 6 weeks.


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Doubt any manager is going to come out and claim his squad of players are not good enough. Won’t expect any different from Ange.
All fans can see our squad is lacking and no where near strong enough for comps.
Agree rotation is key but with the added pressure of winning games won’t want to be a manager!
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Poch, mourinho and conte all came out and said their current squad wasn’t good enough and levy fired them

comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fans moaning about Dorrington appears he is off to Aberdeen on loan.
Imo, These players need the hustle and bustle experience of lower leagues before they are dumped into the 1st team. Fans don’t see what managers and coaches see week in week out on the training pitch.

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When the club don’t sign a much needed centre back, and the managers says he is happy with that and his current squad, including dorrington, then he should play dorrington. Or stop fa cking moaning about injuries. If you don’t rotate, you get injuries. Look at Spence. If he had played more, udogie might not be out for 6 weeks.


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Doubt any manager is going to come out and claim his squad of players are not good enough. Won’t expect any different from Ange.
All fans can see our squad is lacking and no where near strong enough for comps.
Agree rotation is key but with the added pressure of winning games won’t want to be a manager!
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Poch, mourinho and conte all came out and said their current squad wasn’t good enough and levy fired them
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All 3 were correct. Poch though has to accept that when he was finally given money he chose Ndombele, Lo Celso and Sess - can’t remember the 4th. They all tanked.

Jose - should have kept his job 1 further week, it’s irrefutable that he should have been given the cup final. Beyond that I don’t care, we were awful to watch and were only going 1 direction.

Conte - well known he needs the best players to perform, got cheap knock offs from Del Boy down the market instead and frankly got pizzed off with it all. Told the truth in an interview and upset people. Deep down every Spurs fan knows he was bang on the money.

Ange - even if we spent big time to back him, I would still expect the same limitations. I just don’t rate him as a manager. He can’t rotate properly, he plays a system teams trains in a way that causes loads of injuries and fatigue. He picks some god awful line ups and if plan A isn’t working then we usually have faaack all else. Minor and picky point - he gives the worst interviews going, just stares at the floor, coughs a lot and says mate

I think I know why he picks him above the likes of Moore. Whilst Moore is clearly the better player, his style is a little more self-serving similar to Son. He's less likely to get his head up, take it down the and drive in low crosses. I think Ange is more concerned with output than flashes of individual brilliance. For all Werner's lack of ability in front of goal, you know he's going to face up his man, go on the outside and drive in low crosses. Ange I think likes that because there's a greater chance of scoring from it, with Dom and Brennan on the end of things. Plus he's disciplined in his positioning. He stays wide and stretches the pitch.

He won't be here next year but he does offer something our other wingers don't and I think Ange knows that. That's why he continues to play him time and time again. Problem is he's a confidence player in a league that has no confidence in him, so he's perpetually full of doubt. He needs a fresh start in a new league.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think I know why he picks him above the likes of Moore. Whilst Moore is clearly the better player, his style is a little more self-serving similar to Son. He's less likely to get his head up, take it down the and drive in low crosses. I think Ange is more concerned with output than flashes of individual brilliance. For all Werner's lack of ability in front of goal, you know he's going to face up his man, go on the outside and drive in low crosses. Ange I think likes that because there's a greater chance of scoring from it, with Dom and Brennan on the end of things. Plus he's disciplined in his positioning. He stays wide and stretches the pitch.

He won't be here next year but he does offer something our other wingers don't and I think Ange knows that. That's why he continues to play him time and time again. Problem is he's a confidence player in a league that has no confidence in him, so he's perpetually full of doubt. He needs a fresh start in a new league.
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Werner has pace which is key.

Moore is a kid who has missed the last 13 games. He would have no doubt had any more minutes this season if fit and would be eased into the team, as it was at the start of the season getting starts and subs appearances in the PL and EL.

Werner just isn’t good enough and the 8th richest club in the world can go out in January and buy a replacement - even if we’re obligated to keep him on loan until the end of the season.

I think its as a simple as with the injuries the other options probably aren't better players right now, Lankshear will likely be better than Werner but as of today he isn't.

From all accounts Werner is excellent in training, he just gets the yips worse than almost any player I've ever watched.

I actually think he gets a hard time which has made his form worse since last year. When he first came in, his output as a winger was pretty decent. Part of the problem is that he was judged on his goalscoring ability, largely because his time at Chelsea defined him as such. He's not. He's a winger and last season, if you were judging him on that alone, his numbers in terms of good chances created and assists, was actually decent. His output has diminished dramatically since but I don't think it helps when he's out for dinner with his family and some dicccckhead goes up to him and says "Werner, why are you so shiiiiit?". How the hell are supposed to ignore that? The guy has been treated so badly it's no surprise he's not putting the numbers up.

I feel sorry for him. He comes across like a really nice guy and I hope that he ends up somewhere that really appreciates him. God knows he needs it.

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think its as a simple as with the injuries the other options probably aren't better players right now, Lankshear will likely be better than Werner but as of today he isn't.

From all accounts Werner is excellent in training, he just gets the yips worse than almost any player I've ever watched.
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100%. It's the yips. There's definitely a player in there. You've only got to look at his Leipzig showreel for evidence of that. His biggest failing is his mentality. It's likely he'll never really get that back. His move to Chelsea was the worst thing he could have ever done.