Thats right lets have these exciting guys in motorsport who will keep crashing and ruining their own and others races.
It's ok Wenger you don't have to see it (see what I did there) just like Wenger wants football to be non contact it seems you want F1 to be no overtaking.
IMHO Hamilton is a very exciting driver, who does pull off some fantastic overtakes.
But of late he is attempting to pass from more and more unrealistic positions (almost in desperation it can appear), where other drivers are more than allowed to close the door, but he doesn't seem to see that.
In truth I don't think that other drivers fear Hamilton like they feared Senna on the track.
Hey im all for it, Im just having a tongue in cheek moment. I was a big fan of Schumacher who loved a dodgy overtake and I have found that the couple of times I have been go karting I am a aggressive rider also and overtake undertake any take in fact!
oOgOOO
I am a aggressive rider also and overtake undertake any take in fact!
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Now we're talking
Op
As for Lewis being dangerous..
It's a dangerous sport, as we know, but there's limits and in wet conditions more so in respect to what drivers see as fair or dangerous moves. You only have to look at Allan McNish's crash at Le Mans over the weekend. Would go far enough to say Lewis is a little more eager than normal for him trying to give everything to reign back Vettel, who could blame him.
But it's pushing the limits, but more so in the eyes of the other 23 drivers as well as teams and spectators as of late, and with his recent comments and blame effect he seems to be using right now, you've got to take notice and that's what people are doing.
Just another learning curve.
He needs to learn that fast doesn't always win the race.
Head needs to rule the heart, and adapt to driving giving it all, but with a calculating smooth head and then imo, he's going to be back thrilling the hell out of us....you mark my words mate...
All the best have gone throughout it....
He would likley have won if he had just been a bit calmer yesterday.
With the amount of things tht happen 1. at Canada, 2. in a wet race if you spend an extra few laps overtaking people it will make no difference.
Its not like seasons gone by in the dry with no overtaking opportunities.
I'd rather we had drivers like Lewis and Kobyashi who are brave enough to see the smallest of gaps and make that pass. That's what makes the sport exciting it's what's always made it exciting and what will continue to make it exciting.
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OP the trouble with hamilton is that these small gaps dont exist yet he still tries to make them by pushing other cars and making contact e.g. webber and button in canada, massa and the other fella at monaco.
Interesting you use Ayrton as an example.
A man who willfully got into a williams car he allegedly knew that the welds to the steering column were rushed and not safe and ultimately cost him his life.
Very similar to yesterday you are arguing a point that is not compareable. Ayrton's day was very different, infact ironicly Ayrtons death was the catalyst for most of todays major safety improvments and the FIA's somewhat at times OTT approach to 'racing incidents'.
Problem is yesterday Hamilton attempted a dangerous move in terible conditions that ultimately cost him big time yesterday.
I do feel he needs to be reined in a little as yesterday proved he has very little self control and the move on Button could have had very serious implications on another day.
If you want F1 to be a boring sport of drivers who follow in a precesion hoping the guy in front makes a mistake then go ahead but I'd rather we had drivers like Lewis and Kobyashi who are brave enough to see the smallest of gaps and make that pass
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But Lewis never made 'that pass' as it was never there to make! He almost took out a fellow driver (again) because of trying to get through an ever decreasing gap.
Buttons line was correct. As i posted yesterday..........THE ONUS IS ON HE WHO ATTEMPTS THE MOVE TO MAKE IT A SAFE ONE!!!!
I also posted yesterday that i AM a Lewis fan, but his actions are getting worse.
Laura was similar till he almost died in a crash
Maybe it's understandable he beetches a like a puss
Hey NAF, I'd vouch for you, you know that, but that siht you just posted on Lauda
Watch this
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And take that back bud.
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Lewis hasn't made anyway near the dangerous moves Michael Schumacher has made in his career. In fact, there are very few dangerous Lewis moves and I think he is one of the fairest drivers out there. As for Michael............
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posted on 13/6/11
Thats right lets have these exciting guys in motorsport who will keep crashing and ruining their own and others races.
posted on 13/6/11
It's ok Wenger you don't have to see it (see what I did there) just like Wenger wants football to be non contact it seems you want F1 to be no overtaking.
posted on 13/6/11
IMHO Hamilton is a very exciting driver, who does pull off some fantastic overtakes.
But of late he is attempting to pass from more and more unrealistic positions (almost in desperation it can appear), where other drivers are more than allowed to close the door, but he doesn't seem to see that.
In truth I don't think that other drivers fear Hamilton like they feared Senna on the track.
posted on 13/6/11
Hey im all for it, Im just having a tongue in cheek moment. I was a big fan of Schumacher who loved a dodgy overtake and I have found that the couple of times I have been go karting I am a aggressive rider also and overtake undertake any take in fact!
posted on 13/6/11
oOgOOO
I am a aggressive rider also and overtake undertake any take in fact!
__________________________________________
Now we're talking
Op
As for Lewis being dangerous..
It's a dangerous sport, as we know, but there's limits and in wet conditions more so in respect to what drivers see as fair or dangerous moves. You only have to look at Allan McNish's crash at Le Mans over the weekend. Would go far enough to say Lewis is a little more eager than normal for him trying to give everything to reign back Vettel, who could blame him.
But it's pushing the limits, but more so in the eyes of the other 23 drivers as well as teams and spectators as of late, and with his recent comments and blame effect he seems to be using right now, you've got to take notice and that's what people are doing.
Just another learning curve.
He needs to learn that fast doesn't always win the race.
Head needs to rule the heart, and adapt to driving giving it all, but with a calculating smooth head and then imo, he's going to be back thrilling the hell out of us....you mark my words mate...
All the best have gone throughout it....
posted on 13/6/11
He would likley have won if he had just been a bit calmer yesterday.
With the amount of things tht happen 1. at Canada, 2. in a wet race if you spend an extra few laps overtaking people it will make no difference.
Its not like seasons gone by in the dry with no overtaking opportunities.
posted on 13/6/11
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I'd go with that.
posted on 13/6/11
I'd rather we had drivers like Lewis and Kobyashi who are brave enough to see the smallest of gaps and make that pass. That's what makes the sport exciting it's what's always made it exciting and what will continue to make it exciting.
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OP the trouble with hamilton is that these small gaps dont exist yet he still tries to make them by pushing other cars and making contact e.g. webber and button in canada, massa and the other fella at monaco.
posted on 13/6/11
Interesting you use Ayrton as an example.
A man who willfully got into a williams car he allegedly knew that the welds to the steering column were rushed and not safe and ultimately cost him his life.
Very similar to yesterday you are arguing a point that is not compareable. Ayrton's day was very different, infact ironicly Ayrtons death was the catalyst for most of todays major safety improvments and the FIA's somewhat at times OTT approach to 'racing incidents'.
Problem is yesterday Hamilton attempted a dangerous move in terible conditions that ultimately cost him big time yesterday.
I do feel he needs to be reined in a little as yesterday proved he has very little self control and the move on Button could have had very serious implications on another day.
posted on 13/6/11
If you want F1 to be a boring sport of drivers who follow in a precesion hoping the guy in front makes a mistake then go ahead but I'd rather we had drivers like Lewis and Kobyashi who are brave enough to see the smallest of gaps and make that pass
-------------------------------------------------------
But Lewis never made 'that pass' as it was never there to make! He almost took out a fellow driver (again) because of trying to get through an ever decreasing gap.
Buttons line was correct. As i posted yesterday..........THE ONUS IS ON HE WHO ATTEMPTS THE MOVE TO MAKE IT A SAFE ONE!!!!
I also posted yesterday that i AM a Lewis fan, but his actions are getting worse.
posted on 14/6/11
Laura was similar till he almost died in a crash
Maybe it's understandable he beetches a like a puss
posted on 14/6/11
Hey NAF, I'd vouch for you, you know that, but that siht you just posted on Lauda
Watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWksORxA9l0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
And take that back bud.
posted on 14/6/11
Hey
Mods
YouTube access, please....
Old 606 enjoyed this feature and is copyright safe,
Get it on
posted on 15/6/11
Lewis hasn't made anyway near the dangerous moves Michael Schumacher has made in his career. In fact, there are very few dangerous Lewis moves and I think he is one of the fairest drivers out there. As for Michael............
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