Right Neon is Sachin Tendulkar of Indian fans. Solid in defense and fluent in attack. Hats off to Neon. Keep it up bro.
why do you say it is all bopara's fault?
btw i cant wait for india to lose again - which shouldn't really be too long. atleast all these new as you put it voiceofreason, 'johnny-come-latelys ' will go back in to their holes only to appear again when india win another match.
if only wishes would have been horses. Mirpur would have been....... leave it. any team can lose but mirpur just want India to lose.
I also cannot see why Bopara plays and Bell does not.
I also agree about neon being the only Indian fan with bragging rights. The rest of you can pipe down.
Its what you call typical Indian mentality. When Pakistan got battered by England and NOTW in 2010 we were still on old 606 but the Indians went into hiding.
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Some of these indian fans are crazy. I noticed yesterday a new poster mirpurmachine was posting and most indians were calling him Afridi14..... . Seriously their obbsession has no limits.... why not just celebrate your current series win vs england boys?
Ps, agree Neon has been here through thick and thin. His support cannot be questioned. He intellect, common sense, spelling and the ability to be creative can though and thats why hes on FILTER and will remain there for a while yet.
Yeah agreed. Viru has also been on the board. Both seem decent guys.
Its not really all boparas fault but he does frustrate me as a player. I think we have better batsman and that he is included because he can chip in with a few overs, problem is those overs are consitently poor in my view.
Bopara has 'flattered to deceive' so often but always ends up a big disappointment. The question is when will the selectors and Andy Flower recognize this trait. Hopefully being a team mate of Captain Cook and a pupil of Graeme Gooch, will not carry too much weight.
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So its Bopara's fault that England has lost 4-0? hunh as if others are oplaying great cricket ATM. What about cook himself. The guy is good for nothing captain and a failed bat in this seriese. rings some bell?
Bopara has averaged 13 in this series which is as bad as it gets. Even when he scores runs he lacks fluency and many of his runs are off the edge of his bat.
can't defend 300 runs with best seam bowlers and now blaming bopra..
straws and clutching..
I think this was inevitable for a couple of reasons.
First its important to acknowledge that India are not as poor, and England not as good as the one sided series in the summer would suggest. Neither team can aspire to true greatness (i.e Windies of 80's, Aussies of 90's) until they regularly win series away from home too.
Second England have repeated their recurring mistake of thinking of the ODI team as some kind of development team for the Test side, instead of a separate team with the need for a separate skill-set and separate mind-set too. In this incarnation of the mistake, it's the choice of captain.
Cook is a good test opener because he can maintain concentration for long periods, and has the patience to wait for the ball that gives him the opportunity to play one of his relatively limited range (in an international context) of scoring strokes. These attributes, such an asset in test cricket, are a liability in the one day game.
I think it is self-evident that Cook is only in the side because he's captain... there is no way that Cook is in the top 10 english One-Day batsmen based on his performances, much less the top-6.
The Aussies have long understood that to undermine the captain is to undermine the team. I think this is going on here too. In his heart-of-hearts Cook must know that neither his performances nor his tactics have earned him the right to lead this team.
He's there simply to get practice at captaincy so that when Strauss hangs-up his boots the selectors will feel better about handing the job to Cook. IMHO the selectors have it wrong. Failure in captaining the ODI side can only undermine Cook as a test captain.
The selectors should have the guts to pick the best person as captain for the test side without needing the figleaf of being able to say "... he has international captaincy experience with the ODI side"
As to the point about Neon - well, true, but lets not pretend this is a purely Indian trait. Plenty of English summer braggarts are also noticably absent recently - though I suspect many of them were actually football fans looking for something to do during the close season, and not really cricket lovers at all.
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posted on 23/10/11
Right Neon is Sachin Tendulkar of Indian fans. Solid in defense and fluent in attack. Hats off to Neon. Keep it up bro.
posted on 23/10/11
why do you say it is all bopara's fault?
posted on 23/10/11
btw i cant wait for india to lose again - which shouldn't really be too long. atleast all these new as you put it voiceofreason, 'johnny-come-latelys ' will go back in to their holes only to appear again when india win another match.
posted on 24/10/11
if only wishes would have been horses. Mirpur would have been....... leave it. any team can lose but mirpur just want India to lose.
posted on 24/10/11
I also cannot see why Bopara plays and Bell does not.
I also agree about neon being the only Indian fan with bragging rights. The rest of you can pipe down.
posted on 24/10/11
Its what you call typical Indian mentality. When Pakistan got battered by England and NOTW in 2010 we were still on old 606 but the Indians went into hiding.
posted on 24/10/11
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posted on 24/10/11
Some of these indian fans are crazy. I noticed yesterday a new poster mirpurmachine was posting and most indians were calling him Afridi14..... . Seriously their obbsession has no limits.... why not just celebrate your current series win vs england boys?
Ps, agree Neon has been here through thick and thin. His support cannot be questioned. He intellect, common sense, spelling and the ability to be creative can though and thats why hes on FILTER and will remain there for a while yet.
posted on 24/10/11
Yeah agreed. Viru has also been on the board. Both seem decent guys.
posted on 24/10/11
Its not really all boparas fault but he does frustrate me as a player. I think we have better batsman and that he is included because he can chip in with a few overs, problem is those overs are consitently poor in my view.
posted on 24/10/11
Bopara has 'flattered to deceive' so often but always ends up a big disappointment. The question is when will the selectors and Andy Flower recognize this trait. Hopefully being a team mate of Captain Cook and a pupil of Graeme Gooch, will not carry too much weight.
posted on 24/10/11
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posted on 24/10/11
So its Bopara's fault that England has lost 4-0? hunh as if others are oplaying great cricket ATM. What about cook himself. The guy is good for nothing captain and a failed bat in this seriese. rings some bell?
posted on 24/10/11
Bopara has averaged 13 in this series which is as bad as it gets. Even when he scores runs he lacks fluency and many of his runs are off the edge of his bat.
posted on 24/10/11
can't defend 300 runs with best seam bowlers and now blaming bopra..
straws and clutching..
posted on 29/10/11
I think this was inevitable for a couple of reasons.
First its important to acknowledge that India are not as poor, and England not as good as the one sided series in the summer would suggest. Neither team can aspire to true greatness (i.e Windies of 80's, Aussies of 90's) until they regularly win series away from home too.
Second England have repeated their recurring mistake of thinking of the ODI team as some kind of development team for the Test side, instead of a separate team with the need for a separate skill-set and separate mind-set too. In this incarnation of the mistake, it's the choice of captain.
Cook is a good test opener because he can maintain concentration for long periods, and has the patience to wait for the ball that gives him the opportunity to play one of his relatively limited range (in an international context) of scoring strokes. These attributes, such an asset in test cricket, are a liability in the one day game.
I think it is self-evident that Cook is only in the side because he's captain... there is no way that Cook is in the top 10 english One-Day batsmen based on his performances, much less the top-6.
The Aussies have long understood that to undermine the captain is to undermine the team. I think this is going on here too. In his heart-of-hearts Cook must know that neither his performances nor his tactics have earned him the right to lead this team.
He's there simply to get practice at captaincy so that when Strauss hangs-up his boots the selectors will feel better about handing the job to Cook. IMHO the selectors have it wrong. Failure in captaining the ODI side can only undermine Cook as a test captain.
The selectors should have the guts to pick the best person as captain for the test side without needing the figleaf of being able to say "... he has international captaincy experience with the ODI side"
As to the point about Neon - well, true, but lets not pretend this is a purely Indian trait. Plenty of English summer braggarts are also noticably absent recently - though I suspect many of them were actually football fans looking for something to do during the close season, and not really cricket lovers at all.
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