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You got me there! tricky! you are just lucky their was no comment in the space of 30 seconds
Martin Jol is Dutch.
Martin Jol is Fulham's manager.
Fulham have a Dutch manager in Martin Jol.
Might as well send Ryo to Feyenoord then.
Fulham have a Dutch manager in the English league, Feyenoord are Dutch team with a Japanese craving. Send him to Feyenoord.
Ig he goes on loan, he should go to a team which we can/could get a player in exchange.
Send him either to dortmund or Renne and get either Martin or gozte in exchange!
Fulham every day of the week.
He will be playing in the same league that AW eventually wants him to compete in so sending him back to Holland is not an option for Arsenal - unless they are looking to move him on which i don't think we are.
How much longer are Fulham going to have a Dutch manager? Not beyond January I reckon.
Send him to Feyenoord if it's Dutchness that you want.
Send him to Feyenoord. He is not ready for the PL.
Got to be Fulham, we need him to get PL experience otherwise he will never be ready.....
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Send him to Feyenord, less chance of him breaking his leg.
Fulham, he'll like it there. There's a nice little park next-door to the ground where you can sit and watch the boats going down the river while he recovers from his injury
What is the point of sending him on loan to a poorer league with poorer players. Not going to benefit him in the long term if he is to make it at Arsenal.
"What is the point of sending him on loan to a poorer league with poorer players. Not going to benefit him in the long term if he is to make it at Arsenal."
Because he will play regularly for a start. He is struggling with the reserves, to expect him to step up to the PL and start producing the goods for a struggling team is crazy and not benefitial in the slightest, IMO.
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Rubbish. He'll be there at the end of the season. They aren't doing too badly in the league (although their recent form ain’t been great) and just because they lost a 2 goal lead last night and a few <pissed> up fans phoned in on talk sport complaining about him doesn't mean that he is about to be sacked. I know there is rumours of dressing room unrest but not sufficient for a dismissal after half a season.
Most fans I've spoken to don't have a problem with him.
^^ That comment was meant to be in response to CGG.
He played regularly for Feyenord last season making around a dozen appearances so sending him back there would only be a backwards move.
If he cannot get into the first team squad with a ‘lesser’ PL team then he doesn’t have a future at Arsenal.
send him to Holland, then when he comes back all moan that he is not playing games as he has no PL experience and therefore will only play in the league cup....
send him to Fulham, if he cant make it there or at least some impact, then what future awaits him at Arsenal?!!
i feel another Vela with this one....
Twag, they're three points above the relgation zone ... how exactly is that not doing too badly? With Schwarzer out and matches against Bolton, United and Chelsea coming up, they could well be in the bottom three before the end of the year.
Stranger things have happened in football than a manager being sacked after a few months.
"If he cannot get into the first team squad with a ‘lesser’ PL team then he doesn’t have a future at Arsenal. "
He only turned 19 yesterday. Just because Wilshere was able to play at the highest level at his age doesn't mean everybody else can. If we start fast tracking him it can end up blowing up in our faces. His form for the reserves is not good so it is hardly going to be any better in the PL. I would send him to Feyenoord again and then next season give him a season long loan to another PL team (or keep him for the CC/CL games and then send him on loan).
Twag, they're three points above the relgation zone ... how exactly is that not doing too badly?
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And likewise 3 points from solid midtable 10th. Your point? It's Fulham for crying out loud, anything more than mid table and they are punching above their weight.
And likewise 3 points from solid midtable 10th. Your point? It's Fulham for crying out loud, anything more than mid table and they are punching above their weight.
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And my point about their upcoming matches and the likelihood of them seeing in the New Year from the bottom three still stands.
I think other managers are more likely to go - Coyle and Keane for a start - but I still wouldn't bet on Jol having his job in February.
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You got me there! tricky! you are just lucky their was no comment in the space of 30 seconds
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Martin Jol is Dutch.
Martin Jol is Fulham's manager.
Fulham have a Dutch manager in Martin Jol.
Might as well send Ryo to Feyenoord then.
posted on 15/12/11
Fulham have a Dutch manager in the English league, Feyenoord are Dutch team with a Japanese craving. Send him to Feyenoord.
posted on 15/12/11
Ig he goes on loan, he should go to a team which we can/could get a player in exchange.
Send him either to dortmund or Renne and get either Martin or gozte in exchange!
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Fulham every day of the week.
He will be playing in the same league that AW eventually wants him to compete in so sending him back to Holland is not an option for Arsenal - unless they are looking to move him on which i don't think we are.
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How much longer are Fulham going to have a Dutch manager? Not beyond January I reckon.
Send him to Feyenoord if it's Dutchness that you want.
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#if and not ig
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Send him to Feyenoord. He is not ready for the PL.
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Got to be Fulham, we need him to get PL experience otherwise he will never be ready.....
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Send him to Feyenord, less chance of him breaking his leg.
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Fulham, he'll like it there. There's a nice little park next-door to the ground where you can sit and watch the boats going down the river while he recovers from his injury
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What is the point of sending him on loan to a poorer league with poorer players. Not going to benefit him in the long term if he is to make it at Arsenal.
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"What is the point of sending him on loan to a poorer league with poorer players. Not going to benefit him in the long term if he is to make it at Arsenal."
Because he will play regularly for a start. He is struggling with the reserves, to expect him to step up to the PL and start producing the goods for a struggling team is crazy and not benefitial in the slightest, IMO.
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Rubbish. He'll be there at the end of the season. They aren't doing too badly in the league (although their recent form ain’t been great) and just because they lost a 2 goal lead last night and a few <pissed> up fans phoned in on talk sport complaining about him doesn't mean that he is about to be sacked. I know there is rumours of dressing room unrest but not sufficient for a dismissal after half a season.
Most fans I've spoken to don't have a problem with him.
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^^ That comment was meant to be in response to CGG.
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He played regularly for Feyenord last season making around a dozen appearances so sending him back there would only be a backwards move.
If he cannot get into the first team squad with a ‘lesser’ PL team then he doesn’t have a future at Arsenal.
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send him to Holland, then when he comes back all moan that he is not playing games as he has no PL experience and therefore will only play in the league cup....
send him to Fulham, if he cant make it there or at least some impact, then what future awaits him at Arsenal?!!
i feel another Vela with this one....
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Twag, they're three points above the relgation zone ... how exactly is that not doing too badly? With Schwarzer out and matches against Bolton, United and Chelsea coming up, they could well be in the bottom three before the end of the year.
Stranger things have happened in football than a manager being sacked after a few months.
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"If he cannot get into the first team squad with a ‘lesser’ PL team then he doesn’t have a future at Arsenal. "
He only turned 19 yesterday. Just because Wilshere was able to play at the highest level at his age doesn't mean everybody else can. If we start fast tracking him it can end up blowing up in our faces. His form for the reserves is not good so it is hardly going to be any better in the PL. I would send him to Feyenoord again and then next season give him a season long loan to another PL team (or keep him for the CC/CL games and then send him on loan).
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Twag, they're three points above the relgation zone ... how exactly is that not doing too badly?
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And likewise 3 points from solid midtable 10th. Your point? It's Fulham for crying out loud, anything more than mid table and they are punching above their weight.
posted on 15/12/11
And likewise 3 points from solid midtable 10th. Your point? It's Fulham for crying out loud, anything more than mid table and they are punching above their weight.
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And my point about their upcoming matches and the likelihood of them seeing in the New Year from the bottom three still stands.
I think other managers are more likely to go - Coyle and Keane for a start - but I still wouldn't bet on Jol having his job in February.
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