Problem is Dunge - is this really the situation?
Can we confirdently say Tunchev will go through the rest of the season un-injured and fully fit?
Can we be certain Matt Mills isnt going to get sent off again.....
....thats a joke, but truth is if one goes down we are still covered even for the bench, sell one in Jan then it could bite back. Keeping all for coveres us to even drop someone out of form (Bamba?).
We need to keep focused on the "big club" persona - looking to move up a league, surely tough competition between positions is a luxury we can afford.
But to answer your question fully - the positions are for Mills and Bambas to lose at the moment - are they dont seem invincible or unmoveable, do they?
But if you do have to let one go.......It'd have to be St'Ledge - on the condition that Tunch will stay fit.
Try this one Then Dung you have four strikers Nug/Becky + two new you let Howard go and send the youngser out on loan.
You need have two and two up front and the same from centre halfs.
We need full force to get near promotion the youngsters can wait Shlupp will not score 10 goals this season in the championship and thats what we need from a striker for the second half of the season.
So no time to blood youngsters in the back for not knowing how judge-mental ! our fans are of any defender even the stick that Konchelsea got early doors let alone Mills and Bamba
Nev, if you did send Schlupp out on loan, who do you lend him to? Do you lend him to a League 1 side (been there, done that) or a Championship side, where people might start eyeing him up as a potential signing? Personally I'd keep Schlupp and look for a long-term replacement for Steve Howard.
Quite where Waghorn fits into all that, I don't know.
People will disagree with me here (I wont mind if anyone does) but I would have Mills up for sale, and would be willing to sell to anybody offering around the 4mill + mark.
In my opinion it took him at least 5 games to play a reasonable standard of football. When he has, he has never blown me away and looks poor alongside bamba. Hes already been sent off twice and mounted numerous yellow cards, not only costing us a potential 6 points in those games, but making himself unavailable whilst suspended. I just see him as a complete liability and waste of time and money. Probably one of the worst Leicester City captains to live up to the 'captains role' in years.
Meanwhile we have 2 decent defenders who aren't getting the same crack of the whip as Mills did / does. I'd be happy with bamba + either Tunch / Ledge (depending on fitness etc).
Mills and Tunchev
Push Bamba into midfield where he is not the last line of defence so when he makes those bombscare moments at least there is cover behind him.
^ Blackpool fox your not the only one here. Biggest problem is his price tag and captain tag means you can't justify dropping for any reason time length. Which is what needs doing.
Good points Dung/Nev.
The first question has got to be Tunch?
.
He has to be given a go NOW!, to keep him as a 3rd or 4th choice CB and then let us down, when called upon to play, would be crazy.
So if he fails we only have 3 CB's, one of which will be left out and I trust NP to be the best man to make that decision.
It's so interesting with our centre backs.
I think Bamba is a liability, others thing he is our star defender
I think Mills is our star defender, others think he's a liability!!!
The reality is, I'd go with the two above with Tunchev (if fit) on the bench as back up. St Ledger is an almost player for me. Not a ba player in the championship but won't set the world alight.
Whislt I accept Mills has had a rocky start, I've seen enough to think he's Prem quality an think he'll thrive under Pearson. He is the one definite in my back 4.
I don't really want to get in to a debate about Mills, but IMO he has shown plenty after his unsteady start and for me personally, has been more consistent that Bamba. There have been several, if not umpteen, times when Bamba bacon has been saved by Mills (In fact, if Matt had been playing against P'boro he may well have cleared up after Bamba's contribution to their goal), and I see him very much as a young John Terry, I have high hopes for him, especially if we get promoted (and to be fair, this would be in to a league which I think would suit and excel Bamba as well).
However, Bamba is the best footballing centre back I have probably ever seen at Leicester, which makes his self-indulgence at times, so much more frustrating.
Mills and Bamba for me, with St. Ledger on the bench.
I personally think you should have four centre backs at your club, but do agree one should usually be a youngster coming through. However, the situation is slightly different because of Tunchev's return from a legnthy injury.
I think St Ledger is probably one of the better back up CBs to have in the division, but if he felt he needed to leave I wouldn't be opposed to it.
Keep_the_faith1
We agree again it seems. To the tune of the great football chant:
"are you Mersey in disguise? Are you Mersey in disguise"!
I have absolutely no doubt who I would pick. I'm a big Bamba fan. To me he has all the attributes you need for a centre back: pace, power, height etc. and has great football ability as well. Ok, he may need to become more disciplined, but it's far easier to teach a footballer with ability some discipline than a disciplined footballer some ability.
My 2nd choice would be Mills. He looked very rocky when he first arrived and looked like he had no ability at all, but I have high hopes for him. People as old as me will remember a young Steve Walsh who looked pretty awful when he first came to Leicester. I think Mills has something of Walsh about him and I've an incline he will get better and better - just as Walsh did when he stopped getting sent off.
My 3rd choice would be Tunchev on the proviso he can stay fit. He's probably our best defender in terms of reading the game.
As Mersey has stated St. Ledger is a nearly player. Solid Championship pro, but will never be anything more. Not the worst back up to the other 3, but still 4th choice for me - again providing that Tunchev can stay fit.
Here's an alternative situation:
You are Nigel Pearson. It's late January. Matt Mills is suspended after last night's red card, Alex Tunchev ended the game with fluid beginning to develop on his knee, Sol Bamba still has flu, and last week you sold Sean St. Ledger to Birmingham.
Who do you play on Saturday?
Who do you put on the bench?
Who do you make a panic end-of-window offer for?
In the unlikely event of it happening, I would imagine Pearson would play something like:
Abe Peltier Berner Konchesky
With Pantsil on the bench, along with the usual suspects.
I'd make enquiries about any half decent Premiership CBs that we could get in on a month's loan.
How much more unlikely do you reckon it is than DM's scenario of all four of Mills, Bamba, St Ledger and Tunchev being match fit and unsuspended, KTF? Mid-January, and not one of them with a virus or pulled muscle?
And perhaps more to the point, why exactly are people suddenly so keen on losing one of the four? Are the Raksriaksorns down to their last 100 million or something?
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posted on 16/12/11
Problem is Dunge - is this really the situation?
Can we confirdently say Tunchev will go through the rest of the season un-injured and fully fit?
Can we be certain Matt Mills isnt going to get sent off again.....
....thats a joke, but truth is if one goes down we are still covered even for the bench, sell one in Jan then it could bite back. Keeping all for coveres us to even drop someone out of form (Bamba?).
We need to keep focused on the "big club" persona - looking to move up a league, surely tough competition between positions is a luxury we can afford.
But to answer your question fully - the positions are for Mills and Bambas to lose at the moment - are they dont seem invincible or unmoveable, do they?
But if you do have to let one go.......It'd have to be St'Ledge - on the condition that Tunch will stay fit.
posted on 16/12/11
Try this one Then Dung you have four strikers Nug/Becky + two new you let Howard go and send the youngser out on loan.
You need have two and two up front and the same from centre halfs.
We need full force to get near promotion the youngsters can wait Shlupp will not score 10 goals this season in the championship and thats what we need from a striker for the second half of the season.
So no time to blood youngsters in the back for not knowing how judge-mental ! our fans are of any defender even the stick that Konchelsea got early doors let alone Mills and Bamba
posted on 16/12/11
Nev, if you did send Schlupp out on loan, who do you lend him to? Do you lend him to a League 1 side (been there, done that) or a Championship side, where people might start eyeing him up as a potential signing? Personally I'd keep Schlupp and look for a long-term replacement for Steve Howard.
Quite where Waghorn fits into all that, I don't know.
posted on 16/12/11
People will disagree with me here (I wont mind if anyone does) but I would have Mills up for sale, and would be willing to sell to anybody offering around the 4mill + mark.
In my opinion it took him at least 5 games to play a reasonable standard of football. When he has, he has never blown me away and looks poor alongside bamba. Hes already been sent off twice and mounted numerous yellow cards, not only costing us a potential 6 points in those games, but making himself unavailable whilst suspended. I just see him as a complete liability and waste of time and money. Probably one of the worst Leicester City captains to live up to the 'captains role' in years.
Meanwhile we have 2 decent defenders who aren't getting the same crack of the whip as Mills did / does. I'd be happy with bamba + either Tunch / Ledge (depending on fitness etc).
posted on 16/12/11
Mills and Tunchev
Push Bamba into midfield where he is not the last line of defence so when he makes those bombscare moments at least there is cover behind him.
posted on 16/12/11
^ Blackpool fox your not the only one here. Biggest problem is his price tag and captain tag means you can't justify dropping for any reason time length. Which is what needs doing.
posted on 16/12/11
Good points Dung/Nev.
The first question has got to be Tunch?
.
He has to be given a go NOW!, to keep him as a 3rd or 4th choice CB and then let us down, when called upon to play, would be crazy.
So if he fails we only have 3 CB's, one of which will be left out and I trust NP to be the best man to make that decision.
posted on 16/12/11
It's so interesting with our centre backs.
I think Bamba is a liability, others thing he is our star defender
I think Mills is our star defender, others think he's a liability!!!
The reality is, I'd go with the two above with Tunchev (if fit) on the bench as back up. St Ledger is an almost player for me. Not a ba player in the championship but won't set the world alight.
Whislt I accept Mills has had a rocky start, I've seen enough to think he's Prem quality an think he'll thrive under Pearson. He is the one definite in my back 4.
posted on 16/12/11
I don't really want to get in to a debate about Mills, but IMO he has shown plenty after his unsteady start and for me personally, has been more consistent that Bamba. There have been several, if not umpteen, times when Bamba bacon has been saved by Mills (In fact, if Matt had been playing against P'boro he may well have cleared up after Bamba's contribution to their goal), and I see him very much as a young John Terry, I have high hopes for him, especially if we get promoted (and to be fair, this would be in to a league which I think would suit and excel Bamba as well).
However, Bamba is the best footballing centre back I have probably ever seen at Leicester, which makes his self-indulgence at times, so much more frustrating.
Mills and Bamba for me, with St. Ledger on the bench.
I personally think you should have four centre backs at your club, but do agree one should usually be a youngster coming through. However, the situation is slightly different because of Tunchev's return from a legnthy injury.
I think St Ledger is probably one of the better back up CBs to have in the division, but if he felt he needed to leave I wouldn't be opposed to it.
posted on 16/12/11
Keep_the_faith1
We agree again it seems. To the tune of the great football chant:
"are you Mersey in disguise? Are you Mersey in disguise"!
posted on 17/12/11
I have absolutely no doubt who I would pick. I'm a big Bamba fan. To me he has all the attributes you need for a centre back: pace, power, height etc. and has great football ability as well. Ok, he may need to become more disciplined, but it's far easier to teach a footballer with ability some discipline than a disciplined footballer some ability.
My 2nd choice would be Mills. He looked very rocky when he first arrived and looked like he had no ability at all, but I have high hopes for him. People as old as me will remember a young Steve Walsh who looked pretty awful when he first came to Leicester. I think Mills has something of Walsh about him and I've an incline he will get better and better - just as Walsh did when he stopped getting sent off.
My 3rd choice would be Tunchev on the proviso he can stay fit. He's probably our best defender in terms of reading the game.
As Mersey has stated St. Ledger is a nearly player. Solid Championship pro, but will never be anything more. Not the worst back up to the other 3, but still 4th choice for me - again providing that Tunchev can stay fit.
posted on 17/12/11
Here's an alternative situation:
You are Nigel Pearson. It's late January. Matt Mills is suspended after last night's red card, Alex Tunchev ended the game with fluid beginning to develop on his knee, Sol Bamba still has flu, and last week you sold Sean St. Ledger to Birmingham.
Who do you play on Saturday?
Who do you put on the bench?
Who do you make a panic end-of-window offer for?
posted on 17/12/11
In the unlikely event of it happening, I would imagine Pearson would play something like:
Abe Peltier Berner Konchesky
With Pantsil on the bench, along with the usual suspects.
I'd make enquiries about any half decent Premiership CBs that we could get in on a month's loan.
posted on 17/12/11
How much more unlikely do you reckon it is than DM's scenario of all four of Mills, Bamba, St Ledger and Tunchev being match fit and unsuspended, KTF? Mid-January, and not one of them with a virus or pulled muscle?
And perhaps more to the point, why exactly are people suddenly so keen on losing one of the four? Are the Raksriaksorns down to their last 100 million or something?
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