I am automatically beginning to discriminate against you due to your decision to spell "through" stupidly, having spelt the rest of the article perfectly nicely.
That's a fine point you make supergoon.. please accept my humble applogy.
True.
A Man Utd supporter yesterday said on here that this verdict just made them hate scousers more
I accept. Because I'm all about the love
What example of other forms of 'discrimination' are you referring to?
If I shout Racist abuse at a football ground I will be banned from all for life, and yet players are not
Taggart - I presume he means discrimination based on the way people look, coulour of hair and weight. All of which we know goes on. Im afraid the FA have now opened the door to all types of complaints with this decision.
Ginger (Scholes), Fat (Lampard), Gay (Campbell), Jipsey (Carroll), Rat (Neville)...
Yeah I know what other examples might be, but we need an actual example of a player facing a lesser punishment for another form of descrimination.
Moot point:
Andy Gray & Richard Keys done for sexism = sacked
Suarez done for racism = suspended
Your not going to find an example Taggart because i presume the players who get discriminated like the above examples, have to just get on with it. Sticks and stones and all that, but i fear now though anybody could come up with legitimate claim.
LenDog
Are you putting racial discrimintation on a par with insulting somebody about their hair/weight?
Well, to be honest i cant realy see a difference? Surely if somebody is being discriminated for something that they cannot change/help, then yes it is as serious in my opinion.
The difference between them isn't what you or I think; it’s all about how society treats people.
For example, the main categories of discrimination are race, religion, age, gender, gender orientation and disability.
The reason so much focus is placed on these is because of how people, for example, of a certain race have been treated historically.
For hundreds and hundreds of years black people were taken into slavery, crusades were fought based on religion; homosexuals where used as firewood (hence the term f4gg0t) and people with disabilities were often abandoned, left in the street and branded as being some sort of devil in a previous life. Although we have come a long way since, this mentality, though diluted, is still passed down generations as people fail to educate themselves and therefore their dependants.
Social experiments show you are less likely to get a white collar job if you have a foreign sounding name - no matter what’s on your CV. Older people are patronised whilst younger people aren't taken seriously; some women are still not on equal pay as a male in the same role. These are all examples of discrimination in the workplace, and a form of this will happen in (almost) every workplace in the UK everyday – obviously with varying degrees of subtlety.
Furthermore, discrimination against the aforementioned core 6 happens on a global scale. This is not a western problem, but is widespread from the most high tech metropolis to the most basic jungle tribe.
Now, take that and compare it to, say, someone who has ginger hair. Granted, it provides an easy target for bullies as a child, but this is rarely continued into adult life. Yes, it might be by one or two buffoons who think its funny to insult based on appearance, however society as a whole does not conform to this view, and as such someone with ginger hair is treated much differently to, for example, a woman when entering a working mans pub; a practicing Muslim when boarding an aircraft; or even a none-white person passing the police in the street, who are 75% more likely to be stopped and searched.
You see, it isn’t all about how it makes people feel, it is about how society treats and disadvantages people – the more disadvantaged a criteria the more protection it needs in order to create a level playing field; or equality. This, coupled with media coverage and how they believe a person/collective should be portrayed conceives a discriminatory hierarchy based on merit.
Now I am not saying that I necessarily agree with this, however I do think we should be more sensitive to some characteristics than others to create a truly compassionate, accepting and understanding society as we strive towards reaching civilisation - where the emphasis is placed on ‘civil’
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posted on 21/12/11
Spot on.
posted on 21/12/11
I am automatically beginning to discriminate against you due to your decision to spell "through" stupidly, having spelt the rest of the article perfectly nicely.
posted on 21/12/11
That's a fine point you make supergoon.. please accept my humble applogy.
posted on 21/12/11
True.
A Man Utd supporter yesterday said on here that this verdict just made them hate scousers more
posted on 21/12/11
I accept. Because I'm all about the love
posted on 21/12/11
What example of other forms of 'discrimination' are you referring to?
posted on 21/12/11
kick racism out
posted on 21/12/11
If I shout Racist abuse at a football ground I will be banned from all for life, and yet players are not
posted on 21/12/11
Taggart - I presume he means discrimination based on the way people look, coulour of hair and weight. All of which we know goes on. Im afraid the FA have now opened the door to all types of complaints with this decision.
posted on 21/12/11
Ginger (Scholes), Fat (Lampard), Gay (Campbell), Jipsey (Carroll), Rat (Neville)...
posted on 21/12/11
Yeah I know what other examples might be, but we need an actual example of a player facing a lesser punishment for another form of descrimination.
posted on 21/12/11
Moot point:
Andy Gray & Richard Keys done for sexism = sacked
Suarez done for racism = suspended
posted on 21/12/11
Your not going to find an example Taggart because i presume the players who get discriminated like the above examples, have to just get on with it. Sticks and stones and all that, but i fear now though anybody could come up with legitimate claim.
posted on 21/12/11
LenDog
Are you putting racial discrimintation on a par with insulting somebody about their hair/weight?
posted on 21/12/11
Well, to be honest i cant realy see a difference? Surely if somebody is being discriminated for something that they cannot change/help, then yes it is as serious in my opinion.
posted on 21/12/11
The difference between them isn't what you or I think; it’s all about how society treats people.
For example, the main categories of discrimination are race, religion, age, gender, gender orientation and disability.
The reason so much focus is placed on these is because of how people, for example, of a certain race have been treated historically.
For hundreds and hundreds of years black people were taken into slavery, crusades were fought based on religion; homosexuals where used as firewood (hence the term f4gg0t) and people with disabilities were often abandoned, left in the street and branded as being some sort of devil in a previous life. Although we have come a long way since, this mentality, though diluted, is still passed down generations as people fail to educate themselves and therefore their dependants.
Social experiments show you are less likely to get a white collar job if you have a foreign sounding name - no matter what’s on your CV. Older people are patronised whilst younger people aren't taken seriously; some women are still not on equal pay as a male in the same role. These are all examples of discrimination in the workplace, and a form of this will happen in (almost) every workplace in the UK everyday – obviously with varying degrees of subtlety.
Furthermore, discrimination against the aforementioned core 6 happens on a global scale. This is not a western problem, but is widespread from the most high tech metropolis to the most basic jungle tribe.
Now, take that and compare it to, say, someone who has ginger hair. Granted, it provides an easy target for bullies as a child, but this is rarely continued into adult life. Yes, it might be by one or two buffoons who think its funny to insult based on appearance, however society as a whole does not conform to this view, and as such someone with ginger hair is treated much differently to, for example, a woman when entering a working mans pub; a practicing Muslim when boarding an aircraft; or even a none-white person passing the police in the street, who are 75% more likely to be stopped and searched.
You see, it isn’t all about how it makes people feel, it is about how society treats and disadvantages people – the more disadvantaged a criteria the more protection it needs in order to create a level playing field; or equality. This, coupled with media coverage and how they believe a person/collective should be portrayed conceives a discriminatory hierarchy based on merit.
Now I am not saying that I necessarily agree with this, however I do think we should be more sensitive to some characteristics than others to create a truly compassionate, accepting and understanding society as we strive towards reaching civilisation - where the emphasis is placed on ‘civil’
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