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Thank the Lord we don't have to read it - well played Talks!

I don't think the matter would float away quietly. If anything it might escalate since the FA did find him initially guilty.

Personally i don't think the FA will reduce the ban or overturn the decision. They've decided to take a stance and on matters of racial discrimination they're not going to be lenient.

TB

Stay on topic. If you want to discuss the ramifications of any unrelated charges feel free to create a thread on it

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You just couldn't help yourself, could you, Beeb?

If Suarez is, on appeal, found innocent of racial abuse, then I will think the same of him as I did before the incident.

So, in my eye's, he will go back to being a horse faced diver who bit someone, like a petulant child

Fair points serial WUM

Just posing the question

TB your comment was off topic. As usual


NewWAYNE

Fair enough

Can't argue with that

To answer your question, given the way that are large proportion of your fans have reacted to his 'guilty' verdict. i.e. attempting to justify his actions & refusing to decry what has seemingly been proven to be racial abuse - then if this decision is reversed, I doubt there'll be many who will flock to 'apologise' if that's what you're getting at.

Oh & I agree with Wayne

TB

That's better

So what you are saying is that despite Condeming many Liverpool fans for their reaction you would feel it is justified to react in exactly the same way for the reverse decision? Or are you just saying that's what you'd expect to happen

Two wrongs don't make a right

Would it be better for Liverpool to accept the ban now while they have replacements and other teams will be inconvenienced with the african nations or take a chance on an extended ban which would impact more than likely through feb and march when the push for top 4 places will be really on when you would arguably need Suarez more than ever?

Paulpowers

Theoretically yes. It seems that the club have gotten a real bee in their bonnet about this and are going to take it as far as they can. I wouldn't be surprised to see this in court at some point

So what you are saying is that despite Condeming many Liverpool fans for their reaction you would feel it is justified to react in exactly the same way for the reverse decision? Or are you just saying that's what you'd expect to happen

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Given he's admitted using the word that appears to be at the centre of the whole issue - then I suppose individuals can make their own mind up as to what they think about it, irrespective of the guilty verdict or if it's reversed.

For what it's worth, I don't think the bloke is a racist, I just think he's a vile individual, who chose to use that offensive term to get a reaction from Evra.

He's undoubtedly a great fooballer, but has proven time & time again, to be a pretty obnoxious individual, his recent FA charges are just adding to his fairly ugly CV.

He needs to take this as a wake up call & change his ways, it's not too late for him. If he continues along the same path, he'll end up as a more talented version of Diouf.

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Robbo_1976 (U5972) = World Police

TB - It's been revealed that Evra got in first with the abuse by calling Suarez a filthy south american - he shouldn't have reacted to that as both were wrong in my opinion. There's plenty of Liverpool fans fed up with Suarez antics but he isn't the 1st player to handball in a big game, nor the first to bite an opponent and certainly not the worst diver the PL has ever seen. But he plays for Liverpool hence the overly aggressive, insulting personal remarks from rivals.

It strikes me as hugely ironic that on the subject matter under discussion, some have shown far worse language than Suarez allegedly used in the first place.

It strikes me as hugely ironic that on the subject matter under discussion, some have shown far worse language than Suarez allegedly used in the first place
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Not seen that tbf, aside from some disgusting twitter comments aimed at Evra.

If you verbally abuse someone and get the same back and then run to the ref to complain about what was said back, doesn't that open you up to remarks from fans? I'm not saying it's ok, it isn't ok, but I can see why those who deal in abusive remarks would like to post same on twitter. Using foul and abusive language to denigrate someone who allegedly used abusive language strikes me as ironic!

JB - there's a difference between 'foul & abusive language' & racist remarks. The comments that I was referring to on twitter were the latter. I've not seen any racist remarks aimed at Suarez.

You're trying to 'downgrade' the issue here, he didn't receive an 8 match ban for using abusive language, he got that length of sentence due to the fact that it was racial abuse.

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There's plenty of Liverpool fans fed up with Suarez antics but he isn't the 1st player to handball in a big game, nor the first to bite an opponent...
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He is a GROWN MAN who during his job, a game of football, decided to BITE someone?

Can no one get their head round that, he BIT SOMEONE for gods sake, BIT them!!!

Have you ever BITTEN ANYONE? I know I haven't, not even as a small child. But this is a man, a grown up, BITING someone?

I am amazed Liverpool signed him after that, they must have known about it, what it says about his character, or complete lack of, as a man??

<doh?

newWAYNE - No doubt we'll be told that in Uruguay the biting of an opponent is considered a 'friendly jesture'

I just think he's a vile individual, who chose to use that offensive term to get a reaction from Evra.
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Wait a minute...the latest speculation is that Evra called Suarez a 'Sudaca'...an unambiguously derogatory and racist term, equating to something like 'Sp ic'.....and Suarez replied with the term 'Negrito', which is, at worst, ambiguous (and the Uruguayan Press is saying it is never used as racial abuse).

So if the speculation is correct, the conversation went something like this:

"Don't touch me, Sp ic"
"Why not, black fella?"

So the FA has sent out a clear message, here.
1) It's OK to be racist towards south Americans. After all, they're racist themselves aren’t they?
2) Don't use your own language in our country. If you do, we may translate it, and give it a meaning you never knew it had. The onus is on you, as a foreigner, to know that we are going to do this.

The conversation took place in Spanish, for God's sake,, so what it meant in Spanish is a lot more relevant than what it might or might not mean in English, no matter whose soil they were on.

That FA Compliance Officer that SSN keep interviewing (what the hell is an FA Compliance Officer?) said last night: "There are grounds for appeal, because the fact that Suarez hasn't lied about what he said supports his case that he had no idea he was being offensive."

If the transcripts prove that was the conversation that took place, the FA, in their determination to make a stand, are holding up our culture to ridicule, and Spanish-speaking people will be outraged by it.

It says in the Independent this morning that opinion polls are running at 2-1 in favour of Suarez on this issue, so this case has the potential to rebound spectacularly, on both the FA and on Evra.

But it all depends on the transcript of the case.