And watching MOTD, Blackburn are playing better than we are. With a full defence, I think they would have beat us.
The point still stands who are we going to get to replace Coyle?
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Steve McClaren.
6 seasons with Boro and never took them down & won a League Cup as I'm sure you can remember.
Became unpopular due to Boro being a dull side with lots of 0-0's & 1-0's.
How I would settle for those type of results now.
Hopeful, fair enough. I can't tell the future - I ain't a folk singer!
Newcastle hadn't scored for 60 minutes, we were on top, we looked more like scoring.
I could've handled a 1-0 last minute loss. Everyone battling and us being unlucky, but I just can't comprehend the way that Coyle threw the game away by making that change. Muamba was almost our best player. Whilst he doesn't attack much, he won the ball and kept it, which means that Newcastle can't score.
It seemed strange to make that decision given the way the game was going.
Petrovino you have said that before and we talked about his on one of your articles, you have to stop misquoting or ignoring parts of a post.
If Coyle is sacked It will be based on results but the simple act of sacking Coyle is in itself pointless if we have no replacement to come in who is GOING to improve the team. As of right now I have yet too see a name mentioned who is both willing to come here and more likely than not improve things. If we are going down under Coyle we need to be sure that sacking him is the correct decision and we can not afford to take a risk as if it does not pay off we go down anyway but with added cost's and if it goes spectacularly wrong we end up with a new Megson but with added relegation.
And watching MOTD, Blackburn are playing better than we are. With a full defence, I think they would have beat us.
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What do you think we would have done with a full defence? a full midfield?
We actually had our strongest defence on against Blackburn.
Steino - Knight - Cahill - Alonso.
In midfield we missed Chungy and Holden, but we've known about this since August.
Bricks McClaren was good with Boro I admit but that was a long time ago his spell with England was hardly reassuring and since England he has been patchy at best with some good and bad results. Also given that we are due a few players back in the next month or so could we be certain that it was all down to McClaren or the squad improving and presenting more options.
Rowbot I admit it was a strange decision but I can understand the Logic of or defence is shaky and while we were on top we weren't comfortable. Also on another day the change pays off and we score first and win. Again not the change I would have made probably but just leaving It and playing not to concede with our defence is asking for trouble. A decent Rb though and a lot changes for me.
Although it is unfair, he was reinjured in October. Apologies.
In midfield we missed Chungy and Holden, but we've known about this since August.
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Actually we didn't about Holden till October, but it doesn't matter when we knew about it, we still didn't have our strongest team out.
Also I prefer Wheater to Knight ....
See above comment.
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Too busy typing ......
Sacking Coyle for the sake of seeing him go however with no credible plan to replace Coyle is just plain stupid. We will need someone who is going to be an improvement and the options we have seen on here have been either unrealistic, unproven at the level we are currently at or have at best patchy records.
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No misquote unless your taking back what your saying. How do you know no one is waiting in the wings or on a list on gartsides desk. Because there is no one better? That's simply saying as LB we should ' stick and not twist' A new manager offers no garauntees but offers hope and maybe something different and currently anything different is better currently. Who well it's not easy no one said it would be. Watching coyles Bolton is not easy either. I think most fans on here have given him time and now want some hope that their hard earned money may actually get them to see the oddwin rather than one in half a season at home.
Sorry Moses, come along a bit arrogant there but yeah, I do feel if Dann and Givet had been available, we wouldn't have scored. A more competent defence held on and earned them a point against Liverpool today.
How I would love for us to earn a point we don't really deserve against anyone.
If their was a list on Gartsides desk then I am sure change would have occurred.
Also if you are appointing a new manager based purely on hope then tbh their is no hope left and different certainly does not mean better than what we currently have as What if we got Megson mark 2 but without the excuse of being ginger
So what you're saying in effect is ....no matter how badly a team is doing, changing things might be worse, so let's not go there.
Just how bad would we have to be before you'd expect a change? I'm strugglin' to imagine how things could BE any worse than they are now .....
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posted on 26/12/11
And watching MOTD, Blackburn are playing better than we are. With a full defence, I think they would have beat us.
posted on 26/12/11
The point still stands who are we going to get to replace Coyle?
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Steve McClaren.
6 seasons with Boro and never took them down & won a League Cup as I'm sure you can remember.
Became unpopular due to Boro being a dull side with lots of 0-0's & 1-0's.
How I would settle for those type of results now.
posted on 26/12/11
Hopeful, fair enough. I can't tell the future - I ain't a folk singer!
Newcastle hadn't scored for 60 minutes, we were on top, we looked more like scoring.
I could've handled a 1-0 last minute loss. Everyone battling and us being unlucky, but I just can't comprehend the way that Coyle threw the game away by making that change. Muamba was almost our best player. Whilst he doesn't attack much, he won the ball and kept it, which means that Newcastle can't score.
It seemed strange to make that decision given the way the game was going.
posted on 26/12/11
Petrovino you have said that before and we talked about his on one of your articles, you have to stop misquoting or ignoring parts of a post.
If Coyle is sacked It will be based on results but the simple act of sacking Coyle is in itself pointless if we have no replacement to come in who is GOING to improve the team. As of right now I have yet too see a name mentioned who is both willing to come here and more likely than not improve things. If we are going down under Coyle we need to be sure that sacking him is the correct decision and we can not afford to take a risk as if it does not pay off we go down anyway but with added cost's and if it goes spectacularly wrong we end up with a new Megson but with added relegation.
posted on 26/12/11
And watching MOTD, Blackburn are playing better than we are. With a full defence, I think they would have beat us.
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What do you think we would have done with a full defence? a full midfield?
posted on 26/12/11
We actually had our strongest defence on against Blackburn.
Steino - Knight - Cahill - Alonso.
In midfield we missed Chungy and Holden, but we've known about this since August.
posted on 26/12/11
Bricks McClaren was good with Boro I admit but that was a long time ago his spell with England was hardly reassuring and since England he has been patchy at best with some good and bad results. Also given that we are due a few players back in the next month or so could we be certain that it was all down to McClaren or the squad improving and presenting more options.
Rowbot I admit it was a strange decision but I can understand the Logic of or defence is shaky and while we were on top we weren't comfortable. Also on another day the change pays off and we score first and win. Again not the change I would have made probably but just leaving It and playing not to concede with our defence is asking for trouble. A decent Rb though and a lot changes for me.
posted on 26/12/11
Although it is unfair, he was reinjured in October. Apologies.
posted on 26/12/11
In midfield we missed Chungy and Holden, but we've known about this since August.
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Actually we didn't about Holden till October, but it doesn't matter when we knew about it, we still didn't have our strongest team out.
Also I prefer Wheater to Knight ....
posted on 26/12/11
See above comment.
posted on 26/12/11
See above comment.
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Too busy typing ......
posted on 26/12/11
Sacking Coyle for the sake of seeing him go however with no credible plan to replace Coyle is just plain stupid. We will need someone who is going to be an improvement and the options we have seen on here have been either unrealistic, unproven at the level we are currently at or have at best patchy records.
.........
No misquote unless your taking back what your saying. How do you know no one is waiting in the wings or on a list on gartsides desk. Because there is no one better? That's simply saying as LB we should ' stick and not twist' A new manager offers no garauntees but offers hope and maybe something different and currently anything different is better currently. Who well it's not easy no one said it would be. Watching coyles Bolton is not easy either. I think most fans on here have given him time and now want some hope that their hard earned money may actually get them to see the oddwin rather than one in half a season at home.
posted on 27/12/11
Sorry Moses, come along a bit arrogant there but yeah, I do feel if Dann and Givet had been available, we wouldn't have scored. A more competent defence held on and earned them a point against Liverpool today.
How I would love for us to earn a point we don't really deserve against anyone.
posted on 27/12/11
If their was a list on Gartsides desk then I am sure change would have occurred.
Also if you are appointing a new manager based purely on hope then tbh their is no hope left and different certainly does not mean better than what we currently have as What if we got Megson mark 2 but without the excuse of being ginger
posted on 27/12/11
So what you're saying in effect is ....no matter how badly a team is doing, changing things might be worse, so let's not go there.
Just how bad would we have to be before you'd expect a change? I'm strugglin' to imagine how things could BE any worse than they are now .....
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