Agree with everything you say.
It's a tragedy that we've lost Tevez and last night I realised that it's just as much of a tragedy that Mancini and Bellamy couldn't see eye to eye.
We definately need another striker.
I think we should sign the rapist from Arsenal. Can you imagine the stick we'd get from those bitter gooners
There was disbelief when Bobby brought Aguero off last night until we realised that if he'd been injured we could have been without an in-form striker for the upcoming cup games.
I hope we persevere with Dzeko, the lack of protection from the ref last night did nothing to boost his confidence and I hope we give Guidetti a chance.
Is RVP contract up in the Summer? Only a handful of clubs could afford him, City being one of course. The problem we are faced with, and it's something Macini alluded to last night, is that we need to off load 3 or 4 before we can buy. So I guess that'll be Tevez, Bridge (can you belive we pay him £90K a week to do nothing), Onuoha and one other. Out of those 3 I can only see one happening and that'll be Onuoha. If you were one of the bean counters in the club, and this is something that may well have happened, would you not be saying to Mancini that the club should try and bring Tevez back in to the fold?
"the chance at WBA would have been put away by Tevez.". Supposition. Tevez is not infallible - he's missed pens before now.
If we are to play Dzeko then we have to have our wingers and midfield to put passes and crosses into the box every now and again instead of, in the case of wingers, always cutting in to shoot across the face of goal. Sometimes it's good for Johnno to do that but not all the time. Dzeko is a finisher, not someone to hold up and provide the final pass.
IMHO, what we really need is a CB and a back up for Clichy.
What we need is Gareth Bale but it ain't gonna happen.
comment by Damo69 I'm in phase 2 (U1004)
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Money talks. Especially when they are transacted in brown paper bags at Oxford Services.
Supposition, I agree, however, I used Tevez as an example to highlight Aguero's lack of compusure and to reaffirm my point that perhaps City do need another striker. I agree that cover at LB is essential as Kolorov isn't by any stretch of the imagination a full back. If a CB was on Mancini's list then surely Cahill should be considered. Not saying he hasn't been considered, and it might just be a case of City taking a watching brief over the proceedings at Chelsea, but he would seem ideal; young, England international, last year of his contract and already settled in the area. Agree with Damo69 on both counts re: Bale.
RM has always stated that he wants 4 strikers in his squad. So with Carlos being absent in Argentina we do need another striker. Who that is I don't know, but hopefully we can get rid of carlos long before the transfer window closes.
Dzeko is a finisher, not someone to hold up and provide the final pass.
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This is soooooooooooooooo true.
Our 3 strikers have scored 31 of the 56 goals so far this season. If we are to buy a new striker then who will drop down to 4th choice? As you said, Dzeko is short on confidence so will dropping him there be a morale booster? I do believe our current direct play does not suit his game - how about utilising real wing play and get behind the defence to put quality crosses in when our opposition parks the bus?
Bringing in a 4th striker should surely mean that he would be 4th choice. As Boris said: promoting Guidetti couldn't do any harm.
manWooHoo, of course you are right. But two things shouldn't be forgotten. First the possibility of injuries and second the number of games we will have to play if we are as successful as we hope.
I don't think it's a matter of dropping anyone down a place but just having another world class striker available for every possible game.
I don't think we need a world class striker, either someone who is up and coming or nearing the end of their career so would be happy to get the odd game here and there (bellamy would have been perfect). Another world class striker would just mean more competition for places when all four are fit that we just don't need, and would have the wrong effect on the team.
Regarding Dzeko, his situation for me is becoming increasingly more like Carrolls at Liverpool. He is being asked to perform a role that is not his best position, due to the way the rest of the team is set up. With Dzeko on, I would be looking to get it wide and get more crosses in, however we assume that he needs service in the exact same way as Aguero, or last year, Tevez did. He is one player that we really aren't getting the best out of and I feel sorry for him to be honest, he is a much much better player than people give him credit for.
"the chance at WBA would have been put away by Tevez"
On the form he showed against Wigan, no he wouldn't. He squandered chance after chance in that game.
"I used Tevez as an example to highlight Aguero's lack of compusure "
Again I disagree. Tevez would fire wildly and hope to hit the target. Agureo is more composed and his recent performance has been driven more by frustration at his own dip in form.
" would you not be saying to Mancini that the club should try and bring Tevez back in to the fold?"
No. If he'd been a man and taken to the pitch in Munich, we may have been able to salvage the game. As it was, he left us high and dry. He jeopardised our chances of progression and for that alone he can't be taken back. He's a liability and we don't need it.
If we get another striker we just need someone happy with a bit part role, like Owen at United.
Dzeko just needs a run in the team to up his confidence, and the fact that he's struggled to get games recently shows that if we get another top striker he'll be even less likely to get the games he needs on a regular basis.
Another world class striker would just mean more competition for places when all four are fit that we just don't need, and would have the wrong effect on the team.
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Spot on Melton. If we are to have a 4th striker, let's promote from within. Or is there a chance to bring Nimely or Adebayor back? I would try to bring Ade back into the fold before Tevez. The dirty little golfing schnitzelbag.
Yes. So you can loan Aguero to Spurs.
£110 million worth of strikers and you need another one?
Yes because that's exactly how it works.
Return Adebayor back for Aguero.
Could we cadge Bale off you for the rest of the season as we need a bit more depth on the left.
Caveat emptor.
Current Bale has a gyro defect and keeps drifting into CM.
I think we should pull Ade back to help out. But I think we should leave it until February, we'll know by then whether we're definitely struggling or not. Gives Edin a bit of a chance to pick himself up.
Don't think you can recall from a peer league club mid-season.
And only in exceptional circumstances (think twas done for some club that had all its GKs injured) .
Ade is on a season long loan and both clubs would to agree to the deal being cancelled or curtailed. Come on Harry, do the right thing.
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posted on 4/1/12
Agree with everything you say.
It's a tragedy that we've lost Tevez and last night I realised that it's just as much of a tragedy that Mancini and Bellamy couldn't see eye to eye.
We definately need another striker.
posted on 4/1/12
I think we should sign the rapist from Arsenal. Can you imagine the stick we'd get from those bitter gooners
posted on 4/1/12
There was disbelief when Bobby brought Aguero off last night until we realised that if he'd been injured we could have been without an in-form striker for the upcoming cup games.
I hope we persevere with Dzeko, the lack of protection from the ref last night did nothing to boost his confidence and I hope we give Guidetti a chance.
posted on 4/1/12
Is RVP contract up in the Summer? Only a handful of clubs could afford him, City being one of course. The problem we are faced with, and it's something Macini alluded to last night, is that we need to off load 3 or 4 before we can buy. So I guess that'll be Tevez, Bridge (can you belive we pay him £90K a week to do nothing), Onuoha and one other. Out of those 3 I can only see one happening and that'll be Onuoha. If you were one of the bean counters in the club, and this is something that may well have happened, would you not be saying to Mancini that the club should try and bring Tevez back in to the fold?
posted on 4/1/12
"the chance at WBA would have been put away by Tevez.". Supposition. Tevez is not infallible - he's missed pens before now.
If we are to play Dzeko then we have to have our wingers and midfield to put passes and crosses into the box every now and again instead of, in the case of wingers, always cutting in to shoot across the face of goal. Sometimes it's good for Johnno to do that but not all the time. Dzeko is a finisher, not someone to hold up and provide the final pass.
IMHO, what we really need is a CB and a back up for Clichy.
posted on 4/1/12
What we need is Gareth Bale but it ain't gonna happen.
posted on 4/1/12
comment by Damo69 I'm in phase 2 (U1004)
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Money talks. Especially when they are transacted in brown paper bags at Oxford Services.
posted on 4/1/12
Supposition, I agree, however, I used Tevez as an example to highlight Aguero's lack of compusure and to reaffirm my point that perhaps City do need another striker. I agree that cover at LB is essential as Kolorov isn't by any stretch of the imagination a full back. If a CB was on Mancini's list then surely Cahill should be considered. Not saying he hasn't been considered, and it might just be a case of City taking a watching brief over the proceedings at Chelsea, but he would seem ideal; young, England international, last year of his contract and already settled in the area. Agree with Damo69 on both counts re: Bale.
posted on 4/1/12
RM has always stated that he wants 4 strikers in his squad. So with Carlos being absent in Argentina we do need another striker. Who that is I don't know, but hopefully we can get rid of carlos long before the transfer window closes.
posted on 4/1/12
Dzeko is a finisher, not someone to hold up and provide the final pass.
---------------------------------------------------------------
This is soooooooooooooooo true.
posted on 4/1/12
Our 3 strikers have scored 31 of the 56 goals so far this season. If we are to buy a new striker then who will drop down to 4th choice? As you said, Dzeko is short on confidence so will dropping him there be a morale booster? I do believe our current direct play does not suit his game - how about utilising real wing play and get behind the defence to put quality crosses in when our opposition parks the bus?
Bringing in a 4th striker should surely mean that he would be 4th choice. As Boris said: promoting Guidetti couldn't do any harm.
posted on 4/1/12
manWooHoo, of course you are right. But two things shouldn't be forgotten. First the possibility of injuries and second the number of games we will have to play if we are as successful as we hope.
I don't think it's a matter of dropping anyone down a place but just having another world class striker available for every possible game.
posted on 4/1/12
I don't think we need a world class striker, either someone who is up and coming or nearing the end of their career so would be happy to get the odd game here and there (bellamy would have been perfect). Another world class striker would just mean more competition for places when all four are fit that we just don't need, and would have the wrong effect on the team.
Regarding Dzeko, his situation for me is becoming increasingly more like Carrolls at Liverpool. He is being asked to perform a role that is not his best position, due to the way the rest of the team is set up. With Dzeko on, I would be looking to get it wide and get more crosses in, however we assume that he needs service in the exact same way as Aguero, or last year, Tevez did. He is one player that we really aren't getting the best out of and I feel sorry for him to be honest, he is a much much better player than people give him credit for.
posted on 4/1/12
"the chance at WBA would have been put away by Tevez"
On the form he showed against Wigan, no he wouldn't. He squandered chance after chance in that game.
"I used Tevez as an example to highlight Aguero's lack of compusure "
Again I disagree. Tevez would fire wildly and hope to hit the target. Agureo is more composed and his recent performance has been driven more by frustration at his own dip in form.
" would you not be saying to Mancini that the club should try and bring Tevez back in to the fold?"
No. If he'd been a man and taken to the pitch in Munich, we may have been able to salvage the game. As it was, he left us high and dry. He jeopardised our chances of progression and for that alone he can't be taken back. He's a liability and we don't need it.
posted on 4/1/12
If we get another striker we just need someone happy with a bit part role, like Owen at United.
Dzeko just needs a run in the team to up his confidence, and the fact that he's struggled to get games recently shows that if we get another top striker he'll be even less likely to get the games he needs on a regular basis.
posted on 4/1/12
Another world class striker would just mean more competition for places when all four are fit that we just don't need, and would have the wrong effect on the team.
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Spot on Melton. If we are to have a 4th striker, let's promote from within. Or is there a chance to bring Nimely or Adebayor back? I would try to bring Ade back into the fold before Tevez. The dirty little golfing schnitzelbag.
posted on 5/1/12
Yes. So you can loan Aguero to Spurs.
posted on 5/1/12
£110 million worth of strikers and you need another one?
posted on 5/1/12
Yes because that's exactly how it works.
posted on 5/1/12
Return Adebayor back for Aguero.
posted on 5/1/12
Could we cadge Bale off you for the rest of the season as we need a bit more depth on the left.
posted on 5/1/12
Caveat emptor.
Current Bale has a gyro defect and keeps drifting into CM.
posted on 5/1/12
I think we should pull Ade back to help out. But I think we should leave it until February, we'll know by then whether we're definitely struggling or not. Gives Edin a bit of a chance to pick himself up.
posted on 5/1/12
Don't think you can recall from a peer league club mid-season.
And only in exceptional circumstances (think twas done for some club that had all its GKs injured) .
posted on 5/1/12
Ade is on a season long loan and both clubs would to agree to the deal being cancelled or curtailed. Come on Harry, do the right thing.
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