Not seen Brayford linked with anyone, Ward was only rumours and Green definitely won't play IMO.

Be worrying if they didn't though!

I just don't get the animosity and artificial conflict so often created by some fans.

GSE are, of course, in it for themselves. They decided to invest at a time we needed investment to stay alive. The club gladly accepted that investment so we can hardly complain if the investors manage the club as they see fit, though always remembering the huge value of the fan base.

Tom Glick seems a sensible man and a competant business manager. PP is a good place to watch football and he has introduced some good money-saving and convenient facilities such as the automated season ticket readers.

Early on , Glick first identified the need for long term stability and team building, and then found a manager to bring such things to the club. Then he has shown extraordinary faith and confidence in him to the point we now are finding ourselves. Good team spirit, great academy and a great playing staff that did not cost the earth.

When he is interviewed he is honest even though putting on a favourable gloss which 9 out of 10 fans would do if faced with the same situation. He necessarily gives himself room for unforeseen eventualities. I believe he has not spent the money that dissident fans might have expected because of a brilliant crop of academy graduates. That's sound financial sense, rather than dishonesty at a time when such a quality will be needed more and more in the current economic climate.

He has also spent a long time living in a foreign country and away from his home territory at some personal discomfort

Glick knows he can only get a return for his owners by getting promoted to the Premiership. Like all the other clubs in the Championship he is trying his best to achieve that. We should be very happy with progress to date and stop the thoughtless whingeing and carping and mistrust.

Ramdini that is complete hogwash, we've had to watch dross on the pitch for the past 3 seasons. The mistrust is there because of what has proceeded with players being sold at the last minute with no time to replace them.

CStander, it's precisely what Ramdini is stating that we have had to endure the three years of dross. The club was in a mess due to large investments being made on carp players hoping to keep us in the Prem.

It is taking time, but we should all agree we have a solid, stable club, which seems to be going in the right direction.

Rome or the new DCFC won't be built in a day

Zig I appreciate that but surely you can see why there is the mistrust ?

Zig,

Thanks for your ability to see cause and effect. I think Cstander is determined to distrust GSE.

I have no brief for them but objectively I cannot see what they are supposed to have done, which is that wrong or dishonest.

Right from the start they said they would take the long term view. They spotted a talent in Nigel Clough to be able to build a team from the ground up. This is exactly what he has done. Where's the wrong in that? They deser5ve credit for sticking with the plan when sometimes we seemed to be making no progress.

Thanks GSE I say

I just don't get the animosity and artificial conflict so often created by some fans.
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Ramdini

Well said Sir.

I notice on your profile how long you have been supporting The Rams. I don't know you but you out of an awful lot of posters on here (some good, some bad and some just mis-guided) have had the experience and exasperation of other regimes that enveloped our beloved club.

There is always going to be mis-trust of the man in charge ("meet the new boss.....same as the old boss") - indeed I am proud to say that I come from that ilk with a proud ancestry of railway trade unionism going back to just after the war (2nd).

However there comes a time when you just have to accept for the sake of sanity that you HAVE to 'trust' what is being done and if it goes t*ts up, then it goest*ts up.

This mis-trust of the owners is becoming an obsession with some - me? I'd rather concentrate on te team and their performances whilist also keeping a close eye on the off the scenes developement without becoming obsessed.

I've also seen a lot of changes at DCFC I've been watching since the late 60's.

I appreciate that you have to cut your cloth accordingly and as zig said 'Rome wasn't built in a day'.

Having said that our home gates are up there with the best in the championship and most in the Premiership. Its okay being frugal but there comes a point where it backfires.

Where is the established forward and midfielder we were promised by slick? There's a quote in the telegraph today by Nige that Callum Ball will save a few quid by not having to bring a forward in on loan.

The empty promises by Slick are becoming tiresome and you can bet your bottom dollar there will be more spin in March when it comes to season tickets.

Cstander - Wasn't the midfielder and forward we were looking at Eustace and Waghorn - your honest opinion, have they been any better for their clubs than Ball and Hendrick have here when they've played?

I don't think either of them have hardly paid at all this season.

If we had bought them, we'd be about 3 mill in transfer fees and another million in wages down.

Seven soon to be eight and may be more players have left the club recently. That's nearly a full team. We still have no proper out n out striker or full back. We could also do with a creative midfielder. We are one of the best supported teams in the whole of Britain yet still cannot manage to rub two penny's together.
As a football club you are supposed to hang onto your best players and add to them. If Green does go to Ipswich it will be a joke just as if Ward goes to Leicester It shows a complete lack of ambition. Yes I agree you should live within your budget but this budget is Blue Square Prem and for the record I think Nigel is doing a Fantastic job with the resource he has had. GSE show some ambition or please leave.

Well Clough promised a clear out and also said he doesn't think Green will stay. I think he has a very tight budget to work to. I don't think we will be signing a new striker even after the wage has been reduced. Our only hope is if someone comes up with silly money for one of our players but that only seems to happen to Southampton.

I think clearing out the players we have has been fantastic however i'm almost certain this will have cost us a huge sum of cash.

Does anyone think that Bywater, Pearson, Riggott, Anderson and the others won't have had pay offs?

The real cost of paying off that little lot will not have been cheap have been and eaten a significant amount into any budget.

I think we'll see more invested in the summer but not in January.

I'm not sure how you can say we have 'no proper full back', White Swan Ram.

Isn't Gareth Roberts a proper full back?
Isn't John Brayford a proper full back?

Are you sure you don't mean 'cover at full back in place one of the above gets injured'?

comment by Cstander (U7775) posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago

Ramdini that is complete hogwash, we've had to watch dross on the pitch for the past 3 seasons. The mistrust is there because of what has proceeded with players being sold at the last minute with no time to replace them.
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HATE EM

Are we inventing reasons to be fed up now?

Looks like it, Kev.

As far as last minute deals are concerned, two spring to mind. Hulse out, Bueno in (same day).

All the others were conducted way in advance of deadline day. It was a trick that The Amigos used to employ, but like Iwas's rants yesterday, the line between the boards and those responsible for various activities has become blurred.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

Well said moja, its tiresome before the event.

Not trying to wind you up before a loss but I'd be amazed if Palace weren't resting a bunch of their players what with them playing Cardiff in a cup semi on Tuesday.

We are being sold short, way short. I take no issue with ball and hendrick being as good as eustace and waghorn but that is not the point. We were promised an experienced striker and midfielder!

Even little donny are more active in the transfer market than derby. We get a couple of injuries and with all due respect we are in the doo doo

Maybe if we were in trouble like donny we might be more active in the market, as things stand we are exceeding expectations.

I struggle to remember a decent signing/loan that has come in for us in January - Leon Osman but not many more.

Players and agents ask for more money due to time restraints and silly contracts are given out.

Are we better off saving the cash for a real go next season though now that the dead wood has gone and the young squad we have now have a years experience?

Igor I think we probably are but you also have to remember that ball and hendrick are still young lads and there is a danger of burnout, the championship is a tough old league.

With an experienced midfielder we could reach the dizzy heights of the play offs and I know that a fair few think it's too soon for this team and if I'm honest I probably do as well.

I'm pretty sure that some people in this thread would prefer to pull their own teeth out rather than run the risk of future toothache. You really have got pessimism down to a fine art.

Cstander, we are all in agreement as to the requirement of experience in midfield, and while yiu should want the best for your team, knowing our luck we'd win the play-offs and were would leave us.