Giles just googled his article. Looks like the IFA have a lot more work to do in order to stop Nationaists from declaring for the Republic side!
Indeed euro, as brolly made clear, these lads are not 'northern irish' they are irish, darron gibson, james mcclean, marc wilson et al hold the same citizenship as the likes of keane, dunne and given. The issue is not about catholics declaring for ireland, or protestants for that matter, if they so chose... Its about the rights of irish people playing for ireland, its that simple. Someone in the comments section below the article online said words to the effect that when nationalist look south, a border does not exist, but to the pub team they are very closed within their two counties.
I have a solution to 'our wee haters' dilemma... Let the FAI set up camp in the north... As the meerkat says... Simples.
Joe Brolly is articulating the views of many, if not most of the D.J. readership.Whether there are minor discrepancies in his dates is irrelevant, although his editor should hold off on the quarterly bonus.
Approach a fellah, if his heart lies elsewhere, shake hands and agree to disagree.
Btw, Mr. Brolly would do very well to look in the mirror when it comes to minorities not getting a fair shake from a large sporting organisation.The g.a.a. tried to prevent us, Shamrock Rovers f.c., from renting tallaght for our games.Then again, Joe, we're not really 'Irish', nor do we play 'Irish Games', now do we ?
Too bad the courts decided that, whaddayaknow ?, we are really Irish, and we do play an Irish game.
On second thoughts, unlike those defenders of Irish purity over in Croke Park, we haven't quite towed the Catholic Hierarchy party line, going all the way back to the 50s,so perhaps us 'foreign games' practicioners are just a bunch of mongrels.
But, every dog has it's day, and what a night us bowzers had in Belgrade to go into the Europa group stages.
H'up De Hoops
Hey U11421 don't get me started on the GAA, we'll be here all day. I went to a school that "forced" us to play Hurling even if we had no interest it.
One of my teachers who happened to be a prominent member of the local GAA club called the lads in the class who followed Soccer "West Brits". And this was when i was only 10 years of age!!
Talk about insecure , Euro.I had a peek at the All Ireland final to see if things had changed much.Immediately after the game 2 of the three commentators were talking not about the ins n outs of the game, but how much better than other sports it was.Pathetic.
I gotta run, you might infect me with your dangerous talk bout foreign games, you're a bad influence , Euro, n that's a fact.
Funny thing is you read up on the original rules of Football (Association) you will see that the rules (Sheffield rules) allowed outfield players to handle the ball! The GAA basically copied this rules for Gaelic Football!
Serious question to the Northern based ROI fans. Do you think the IFA are doing enough to make Windsor Park a "more inclusive" place to watch Football matches?
Didn't realise that the NI fans were chanting "trick or treat" at the game! Shocking! And they wonder why players choose to play for us.
Have a look at Roy Keane's autobiography Arsene to see what he thought of the crowds behaviour on the night. And remember Keane is not pro FAI!!!
Yeah have never got around to reading it but could be interesting! Just watched highlights of the game. The way they celebrated going ahead you would swear it was them that was qualifying! Their manager was a tool!
Very interesting indeed.
I wonder in Mr Brollys world of level journalism has he ever written an article giving off about the GAA
Holding Republican parades inside their stadia (imagine if that happened the other way at Windsor Park -the uproar)
The naming of GAA competitions /cups/grounds after convicted terrorists/murderers
Article 21 which still existed within the last 10 years (a sort of apartheid if you job was police/army etc even if you were Irish) how very 'even handed)
Anyway as everyone knows its only NI football that has issues.
I rest my case.
Woho thahr, Kingmick, comin' out swingin with both hands.You westies feeling your oats now that you've got the mighty Reds a visitin in yon Cup ?
Mick good point you make about the Gaa. But as far as i'm aware no one puts pressure on Unionists to follow Gaelic games. Contrast that to the uproar when a Northern born footballer exercises his right torepresent the ROI Team!
KingMick , and there was thinking it was just us "Northern Brits" that is sectarian , theres a turn up for the books.
To be honest i think its time to put this whole debate around Northern born players declaring for the Republic of Ireland side to bed now!!
(1). It is their right as per the Good Friday Agreement
(2). It has received the backing of the CAS
(3). It is entirely up to the IFA to make the whole idea of representing Northern Ireland a more attractive one for players who have a wish to play for the Republic.
Remember it is more than 10 years ago since the ban on policemen and Brits has been removed. Has it made a difference. No. Only a handful have lined out for any of the clubs.
Only a year since two Celtic players received bullets in the post. two players came from 6 counties, as did the bullets.
^^^^
You would think that there was only loyalists living in the 6 counties.Any chance this could have been an angry nationalist causing mischief and not being very happy with 'his sort' turning out for the 'occupied counties'?
Ah here Mick clutching at straws now!
Ha ha Mick that comment made me laugh . If it was angry Nationalists they don't know their Football anyway.
Its not the two targeted players Mc Court and Mc Ginn are a loss to the ROI side .Last time i checked Mc Court was playing for Celtic reserves and Mc Ginn for South Londons finest Brentford
Your personal feelings on Joe Brolly and the GAA aside Mick, rather than 'resting your case', how about you debate the points of his article and point out where he is wrong?
Ha ha I notice on the NIreland board which cough cough .which I am "banned" from posting on nobody is prepared to dissect Brollys comments and point out whnre they believe he is wrong! Its Elephant in the room time with the focus deflected to the GAA!
OK ,I will tell you how the Brollsters article is flawed ( I cant believe you guys think its suitable journalism in any way)
Its meant to be an article about how Michael O'Neill is going to stop players defecting to the Eire team.
The first 2 paragraphs talk about the following
The 12th July
FDP Bands
The Shankill Road
NI unofficial anthem (is it really)
The Greysteels Murders
What in da hell is that to do with the NI team guys really?
Its really about pinning any ole sho'ite unto NI to make them look as bad as possible.
Not balanced ,no mention of how much the NI fans have adored Jennings,Rice,Armstrong,O'Neill ,McCourt etc over the years.
Its all no negative and unbalanced its just a bitter hatred of all things Northern Irish.
Its like saying I saw Sean Kelly in a ROI shirt therefore all ROI fans are bombers.
Well answer this Mick, you claim to be a ROI supporter, how come you don't support NI?
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posted on 22/1/12
Giles just googled his article. Looks like the IFA have a lot more work to do in order to stop Nationaists from declaring for the Republic side!
posted on 22/1/12
Indeed euro, as brolly made clear, these lads are not 'northern irish' they are irish, darron gibson, james mcclean, marc wilson et al hold the same citizenship as the likes of keane, dunne and given. The issue is not about catholics declaring for ireland, or protestants for that matter, if they so chose... Its about the rights of irish people playing for ireland, its that simple. Someone in the comments section below the article online said words to the effect that when nationalist look south, a border does not exist, but to the pub team they are very closed within their two counties.
I have a solution to 'our wee haters' dilemma... Let the FAI set up camp in the north... As the meerkat says... Simples.
posted on 23/1/12
Joe Brolly is articulating the views of many, if not most of the D.J. readership.Whether there are minor discrepancies in his dates is irrelevant, although his editor should hold off on the quarterly bonus.
Approach a fellah, if his heart lies elsewhere, shake hands and agree to disagree.
Btw, Mr. Brolly would do very well to look in the mirror when it comes to minorities not getting a fair shake from a large sporting organisation.The g.a.a. tried to prevent us, Shamrock Rovers f.c., from renting tallaght for our games.Then again, Joe, we're not really 'Irish', nor do we play 'Irish Games', now do we ?
Too bad the courts decided that, whaddayaknow ?, we are really Irish, and we do play an Irish game.
On second thoughts, unlike those defenders of Irish purity over in Croke Park, we haven't quite towed the Catholic Hierarchy party line, going all the way back to the 50s,so perhaps us 'foreign games' practicioners are just a bunch of mongrels.
But, every dog has it's day, and what a night us bowzers had in Belgrade to go into the Europa group stages.
H'up De Hoops
posted on 23/1/12
Hey U11421 don't get me started on the GAA, we'll be here all day. I went to a school that "forced" us to play Hurling even if we had no interest it.
One of my teachers who happened to be a prominent member of the local GAA club called the lads in the class who followed Soccer "West Brits". And this was when i was only 10 years of age!!
posted on 23/1/12
Talk about insecure , Euro.I had a peek at the All Ireland final to see if things had changed much.Immediately after the game 2 of the three commentators were talking not about the ins n outs of the game, but how much better than other sports it was.Pathetic.
I gotta run, you might infect me with your dangerous talk bout foreign games, you're a bad influence , Euro, n that's a fact.
posted on 23/1/12
Funny thing is you read up on the original rules of Football (Association) you will see that the rules (Sheffield rules) allowed outfield players to handle the ball! The GAA basically copied this rules for Gaelic Football!
posted on 24/1/12
Great article by Brolly!
posted on 24/1/12
Serious question to the Northern based ROI fans. Do you think the IFA are doing enough to make Windsor Park a "more inclusive" place to watch Football matches?
posted on 24/1/12
Didn't realise that the NI fans were chanting "trick or treat" at the game! Shocking! And they wonder why players choose to play for us.
posted on 24/1/12
Have a look at Roy Keane's autobiography Arsene to see what he thought of the crowds behaviour on the night. And remember Keane is not pro FAI!!!
posted on 24/1/12
Yeah have never got around to reading it but could be interesting! Just watched highlights of the game. The way they celebrated going ahead you would swear it was them that was qualifying! Their manager was a tool!
posted on 24/1/12
Very interesting indeed.
I wonder in Mr Brollys world of level journalism has he ever written an article giving off about the GAA
Holding Republican parades inside their stadia (imagine if that happened the other way at Windsor Park -the uproar)
The naming of GAA competitions /cups/grounds after convicted terrorists/murderers
Article 21 which still existed within the last 10 years (a sort of apartheid if you job was police/army etc even if you were Irish) how very 'even handed)
Anyway as everyone knows its only NI football that has issues.
I rest my case.
posted on 24/1/12
Woho thahr, Kingmick, comin' out swingin with both hands.You westies feeling your oats now that you've got the mighty Reds a visitin in yon Cup ?
posted on 25/1/12
Mick good point you make about the Gaa. But as far as i'm aware no one puts pressure on Unionists to follow Gaelic games. Contrast that to the uproar when a Northern born footballer exercises his right torepresent the ROI Team!
posted on 25/1/12
KingMick , and there was thinking it was just us "Northern Brits" that is sectarian , theres a turn up for the books.
posted on 26/1/12
To be honest i think its time to put this whole debate around Northern born players declaring for the Republic of Ireland side to bed now!!
(1). It is their right as per the Good Friday Agreement
(2). It has received the backing of the CAS
(3). It is entirely up to the IFA to make the whole idea of representing Northern Ireland a more attractive one for players who have a wish to play for the Republic.
posted on 26/1/12
Remember it is more than 10 years ago since the ban on policemen and Brits has been removed. Has it made a difference. No. Only a handful have lined out for any of the clubs.
Only a year since two Celtic players received bullets in the post. two players came from 6 counties, as did the bullets.
posted on 26/1/12
^^^^
You would think that there was only loyalists living in the 6 counties.Any chance this could have been an angry nationalist causing mischief and not being very happy with 'his sort' turning out for the 'occupied counties'?
posted on 26/1/12
Ah here Mick clutching at straws now!
posted on 27/1/12
Ha ha Mick that comment made me laugh . If it was angry Nationalists they don't know their Football anyway.
Its not the two targeted players Mc Court and Mc Ginn are a loss to the ROI side .Last time i checked Mc Court was playing for Celtic reserves and Mc Ginn for South Londons finest Brentford
posted on 27/1/12
Your personal feelings on Joe Brolly and the GAA aside Mick, rather than 'resting your case', how about you debate the points of his article and point out where he is wrong?
posted on 27/1/12
Ha ha I notice on the NIreland board which cough cough .which I am "banned" from posting on nobody is prepared to dissect Brollys comments and point out whnre they believe he is wrong! Its Elephant in the room time with the focus deflected to the GAA!
posted on 27/1/12
OK ,I will tell you how the Brollsters article is flawed ( I cant believe you guys think its suitable journalism in any way)
Its meant to be an article about how Michael O'Neill is going to stop players defecting to the Eire team.
The first 2 paragraphs talk about the following
The 12th July
FDP Bands
The Shankill Road
NI unofficial anthem (is it really)
The Greysteels Murders
What in da hell is that to do with the NI team guys really?
Its really about pinning any ole sho'ite unto NI to make them look as bad as possible.
Not balanced ,no mention of how much the NI fans have adored Jennings,Rice,Armstrong,O'Neill ,McCourt etc over the years.
Its all no negative and unbalanced its just a bitter hatred of all things Northern Irish.
Its like saying I saw Sean Kelly in a ROI shirt therefore all ROI fans are bombers.
posted on 27/1/12
Well answer this Mick, you claim to be a ROI supporter, how come you don't support NI?
posted on 27/1/12
Why would I ?
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