Lets hope they start building in the next two yrs, last thing we need now is a ten yr wait ?
SWEEEEEET
Lets get building boys!
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Fred.. where are you
Told you last week we have everything in place for new stadium you muppet
Enjoy ground share with Everton
Maf's petition hasn't stopped it then.
Here's his article:
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/56255
6,714 signatures.
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<quote>
- £0.2m: Access improvements to Northumberland Park Station
£3.5m Public Transport Capacity Improvements
- £3.5m: Tottenham Hale Station – funding towards gateline and escalator passenger capacity improvements
<quote>
WTF .
Given some RDBD recce was done on this a couple of months ago, this smacks of politnik poncing.
Tottenham Hale is a MAJOR hub for the Olympics.
If it cannot handle a similar passenger increase to that projected for the new WHL, NOW, IT NEVER WILL.
From what I saw on my trip, Northumberland Park needs a third platform to enable shuttle trains from Liverpool St - Tottenham Hale - Northumberland Park. If the increased demographic includes E London / Essex, then tis already covered courtesy of Stratford.
The Edmonton train line cannot really cope.
Seven Sisters tube cannot be expanded to take an increase in passengers, regardless of the scope to double the width of the train platforms at Seven Sisters and WHL.
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yeah the edmonton train line does need to be expanded. whl station is not big enough and needs more regular service on matchdays. the problem is that the silver street edmonton green whl etc line is actually quite quiet when its not match day.... so maybe the council dont feel its worth their while
Tottenham Hale is a MAJOR hub for the Olympics.
If it cannot handle a similar passenger increase to that projected for the new WHL, NOW, IT NEVER WILL.
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RDBD - London transport will go into meltdown in the Olympics, they have vastly underestimated how much traffic there will be on ALL forms of transport
I said
we had planning permission and the money for the stadium and that we owned the land where the new staduim will be built
Go back and read it
Chronic :
That line is only busy doing commute and school times.
But Seven Sisters tube is the problem (or more specifically : Spurs attendees get off there and trying to then use the rail line) .
If the Northumberland Park side is made much more better, people will have no qualms walking there. Of course, this is on the assumption that the demographics don't show a large % of attendees actually get on between Enfield and Edmonton stations (the club has this info) .
RRP :
Not really interested in the Olympics issue.
For Spurs the issues are much more precise. When I see a spending list as quoted, I know politniks have done SFA with regard to "due diligence" .
RDBD - Fair do's...just not looking forward to the Olympic traffic
Chronic :
That line is only busy doing commute and school times.
But Seven Sisters tube is the problem (or more specifically : Spurs attendees get off there and trying to then use the rail line) .
If the Northumberland Park side is made much more better, people will have no qualms walking there. Of course, this is on the assumption that the demographics don't show a large % of attendees actually get on between Enfield and Edmonton stations (the club has this info) .
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there are only three or four stations from enfield twon to whl so logic says that not a large number would get on at this limited number of stops... despite the area being a tottenham stronghold... i know several people in enfield who drive down to the games or take bus. the train is an expensive unreliable pain in the backside i suppose.
northumberland park station isnt even a long walk as it is so i am not sure why the walk would deter anyone? its probably about the same distance away as whl station depending on which part of the ground you are coming from.
I don't have the current + mythical waiting list demographics, but I would be looking at Liverpool St and Tottenham Hale as the transport hubs on match day.
Seven Sisters rail as an interchange to be effectively discouraged, except for those supporters who live around that line (shuttle trains doing Liverpool St to WHL only etc) .
I'm just glad that the transport in the local area never really affects me when I come to WHL these days. I live in Oval so just get on the Victoria line at Vauxhall where it's never busy. It is a bit of a walk from Seven Sisters but when it's match day there's always a good buzz walking down to the ground so it's not exactly a big deal.
liverpool street is find is more of a big deal on night games because lots of people work down that way...
and i have done that trip a few times and its a joke and chaos and unreliable.. needs to be sorted.. a direct shuttle would do nicely.
how much action does it get on a weekend game?
On saturdays when I am on that line around KO time, the trains are already packed by the time they reach Seven Sisters.
Therefore Liverpool St is acting as a hub.
As I said, you need the demographics. A Stratford - Tottenham Hale - Northumberland Park shuttle is also an option (did exactly that journey in reverse when I went to the Lodge) .
One of Ken's proposals as Mayor was to extend the Victoria line from Seven Sisters to Northumberland Park (which already exists for empty Vic line trains going to the depot there).
This would go a long way to sorting out the bottleneck at WHL station after matches. Problem is National Rail want to use the space a passenger station would use for installing extra tracks for its own services..
When we get the NDP private funding sorted and construction under way, lobbying for the tube extension should be our next aim, as imo with the tube station at Northumberland Park we can realistically look (in the long term) to expand the capcity at the NDP into 65/70,000 odd..
More chance of getting platform 3 at Northumberland Park (minimal compulsory purchase of part of the back of an industrial unit to add to the space in between that and the current southbound line) .
I've had the misfortune of getting the train from Liverpool street once before. It was massively delayed more crammed than the tube and caused us to miss the first 15 mins of the match. I was mega peessed owf I tell thee. Never again!
So yeh I can see how this hub needs to be improved!
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posted on 31/1/12
Lets hope they start building in the next two yrs, last thing we need now is a ten yr wait ?
posted on 31/1/12
fantastic news !
posted on 31/1/12
SWEEEEEET
Lets get building boys!
posted on 31/1/12
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posted on 31/1/12
Galvin
Money Money Money
posted on 31/1/12
Fred.. where are you
Told you last week we have everything in place for new stadium you muppet
Enjoy ground share with Everton
posted on 31/1/12
Maf's petition hasn't stopped it then.
Here's his article:
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/56255
6,714 signatures.
posted on 31/1/12
Mafiaboy
posted on 31/1/12
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posted on 31/1/12
<quote>
- £0.2m: Access improvements to Northumberland Park Station
£3.5m Public Transport Capacity Improvements
- £3.5m: Tottenham Hale Station – funding towards gateline and escalator passenger capacity improvements
<quote>
WTF .
Given some RDBD recce was done on this a couple of months ago, this smacks of politnik poncing.
Tottenham Hale is a MAJOR hub for the Olympics.
If it cannot handle a similar passenger increase to that projected for the new WHL, NOW, IT NEVER WILL.
From what I saw on my trip, Northumberland Park needs a third platform to enable shuttle trains from Liverpool St - Tottenham Hale - Northumberland Park. If the increased demographic includes E London / Essex, then tis already covered courtesy of Stratford.
The Edmonton train line cannot really cope.
Seven Sisters tube cannot be expanded to take an increase in passengers, regardless of the scope to double the width of the train platforms at Seven Sisters and WHL.
posted on 31/1/12
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posted on 31/1/12
yeah the edmonton train line does need to be expanded. whl station is not big enough and needs more regular service on matchdays. the problem is that the silver street edmonton green whl etc line is actually quite quiet when its not match day.... so maybe the council dont feel its worth their while
posted on 31/1/12
Tottenham Hale is a MAJOR hub for the Olympics.
If it cannot handle a similar passenger increase to that projected for the new WHL, NOW, IT NEVER WILL.
---------------------------------------------------------
RDBD - London transport will go into meltdown in the Olympics, they have vastly underestimated how much traffic there will be on ALL forms of transport
posted on 31/1/12
I said
we had planning permission and the money for the stadium and that we owned the land where the new staduim will be built
Go back and read it
posted on 31/1/12
Chronic :
That line is only busy doing commute and school times.
But Seven Sisters tube is the problem (or more specifically : Spurs attendees get off there and trying to then use the rail line) .
If the Northumberland Park side is made much more better, people will have no qualms walking there. Of course, this is on the assumption that the demographics don't show a large % of attendees actually get on between Enfield and Edmonton stations (the club has this info) .
posted on 31/1/12
RRP :
Not really interested in the Olympics issue.
For Spurs the issues are much more precise. When I see a spending list as quoted, I know politniks have done SFA with regard to "due diligence" .
posted on 31/1/12
RDBD - Fair do's...just not looking forward to the Olympic traffic
posted on 31/1/12
Chronic :
That line is only busy doing commute and school times.
But Seven Sisters tube is the problem (or more specifically : Spurs attendees get off there and trying to then use the rail line) .
If the Northumberland Park side is made much more better, people will have no qualms walking there. Of course, this is on the assumption that the demographics don't show a large % of attendees actually get on between Enfield and Edmonton stations (the club has this info) .
-----
there are only three or four stations from enfield twon to whl so logic says that not a large number would get on at this limited number of stops... despite the area being a tottenham stronghold... i know several people in enfield who drive down to the games or take bus. the train is an expensive unreliable pain in the backside i suppose.
northumberland park station isnt even a long walk as it is so i am not sure why the walk would deter anyone? its probably about the same distance away as whl station depending on which part of the ground you are coming from.
posted on 31/1/12
I don't have the current + mythical waiting list demographics, but I would be looking at Liverpool St and Tottenham Hale as the transport hubs on match day.
Seven Sisters rail as an interchange to be effectively discouraged, except for those supporters who live around that line (shuttle trains doing Liverpool St to WHL only etc) .
posted on 31/1/12
I'm just glad that the transport in the local area never really affects me when I come to WHL these days. I live in Oval so just get on the Victoria line at Vauxhall where it's never busy. It is a bit of a walk from Seven Sisters but when it's match day there's always a good buzz walking down to the ground so it's not exactly a big deal.
posted on 31/1/12
liverpool street is find is more of a big deal on night games because lots of people work down that way...
and i have done that trip a few times and its a joke and chaos and unreliable.. needs to be sorted.. a direct shuttle would do nicely.
how much action does it get on a weekend game?
posted on 31/1/12
On saturdays when I am on that line around KO time, the trains are already packed by the time they reach Seven Sisters.
Therefore Liverpool St is acting as a hub.
As I said, you need the demographics. A Stratford - Tottenham Hale - Northumberland Park shuttle is also an option (did exactly that journey in reverse when I went to the Lodge) .
posted on 31/1/12
One of Ken's proposals as Mayor was to extend the Victoria line from Seven Sisters to Northumberland Park (which already exists for empty Vic line trains going to the depot there).
This would go a long way to sorting out the bottleneck at WHL station after matches. Problem is National Rail want to use the space a passenger station would use for installing extra tracks for its own services..
When we get the NDP private funding sorted and construction under way, lobbying for the tube extension should be our next aim, as imo with the tube station at Northumberland Park we can realistically look (in the long term) to expand the capcity at the NDP into 65/70,000 odd..
posted on 31/1/12
More chance of getting platform 3 at Northumberland Park (minimal compulsory purchase of part of the back of an industrial unit to add to the space in between that and the current southbound line) .
posted on 31/1/12
I've had the misfortune of getting the train from Liverpool street once before. It was massively delayed more crammed than the tube and caused us to miss the first 15 mins of the match. I was mega peessed owf I tell thee. Never again!
So yeh I can see how this hub needs to be improved!
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