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Classic.
I can see it now, Basher going to a Mortgage Adviser claiming he can afford a million pound house because he earns £25k per year.
because he earns £25k per year.
................
Who exactly will pay him that sought of money?????
King arry: "why should West Ham want to move into Orient's back yard?
Same question to you, same point, same answer: the stadium."
...
Yes, but more pertinently, same borough. Which again begs the question (which I initially posted): what reasonable right did Tottenham have to make them think it would be ok to move to east London?
Although the judicial review is to do with the process etc, it all stems from the original decision to want to move to a different borough.
Also, just to show it's not just West Ham fans who think the recent applications for judicial review are baseless and clutching at straws, I suggest you read the below report of the judgment in the Torygraph which gives the many grounds for dismissing the application:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/8597558/Tottenham-Hotspur-and-Leyton-Orient-warned-against-appealing-Olympic-Stadium-decision.html
chicken: "6 figure(millions)
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Classic."
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That's a bit rich coming from someone who consistently refuses to concede that 34,941 is more than 100% of 30,000.
myhammers,
I've now answered you 3 times on the other thread you .
The basic jist, which i replied to you with, then referred back to when you couldnt "see it" & now referred you to a third time is this:
As you say, your biggest gate last season was 34,941, but that wasn't the norm. You even struggled to sell, and were even advertising tickets, against Spurs & Chelsea - 2 of your biggest games of the season. If you cant sell 100% of these tickets (with or without the need for round the clock advertising on the radio, bus shelters & bill boards), how the hell do you expect to sell this amount of tickets in The Long Ball League, against teams like Peterborough, Doncaster & the like?
Its simple, its just not going to happen. Quite alot of my closest mates are (or were) season ticket holders, and have been for many years, and even they have said they will not (& i quote) go to watch that pile of BEEP BEEP, whether it be for £50 or a fiver.
So if you think you will retain, even 30,000 fans from your highest attendance of last season, now you're playing tier 2 football, you are insane. Not going to happen. If you cant do the maths on that, then maybe you should go back to using an abacus.
I think you need to go Specsavers.
As you say, your biggest gate last season was 34,941, but that wasn't the norm. You even struggled to sell, and were even advertising tickets, against Spurs & Chelsea - 2 of your biggest games of the season.
Are Spurs fill their stadium for each and every game? I have seen some empty seats on Thursday evenings few years ago.
I am sure you have returned some away tickets for Chelsea game.
We averaged apprx 35,600 , we sold out every HOME league seat and we NEVER had to resort to tacky radio adds like West Ham ..........END OFF
squid: But Tottenham are flying high. West Ham were relegated. Yet our average attendances are very close. Of course, you do have a longer waiting list for season tickets. But Tottenham fans go on like there is a massive gulf between our support.
Imagine if the tables were turned. Would you get such big attendances if you were regularly in the bottom third?
West Ham's fortunes will change with the OS. Whether due to discounted tickets or whatever, we will, before long, eclipse your highest possible attendance. At least we have the capacity to do so.
Your owners can see that, even if the fans are concerned only with short-term success.
All Tottenham fans can deride us about is our Championship status. Fair enough. But the likelihood of our returning to the Premiership is not that remote. Any football fan would acknowledge that.
But the likelihood of Tottenham ever leaving WHL for a bigger stadium is very, very remote.
The future is claret and blue.
I'm sorry but everything that needed to be said has been said ....We can all deal in speculation but in the end , that's all it is ...speculation
I'm off to watch the T20 on the telly after all it is the Cricket season
Yup. Time to go do something else. We've all stated our arguments most clearly. I'll leave you Tottenham fans with one final comment.
West Ham's league status will change and we will, sooner or later, return to the Premiership. And we'll have the OS.
Tottenham will also be in the same league as us once we get back, but they will never leave a stadium which is too small for their lofty ambitions.
myhammers,
You're almost sounding as if you'd prefer to play lower league footy, as long as there's more seats around the pitch.
The only way West Ham will get close to say, 61% capacity (using the figure you used) is if non-West Ham fans, or tourists, snap up cheap (or free) tickets.
How degrading?
Whilst it would be nice to have this size stadium sooner rather than later, i think i speak on behalf of 99.9% of fans here (with myhammers being the exception), i would much rather watch my club play at the top level, ie the Prem, surrounded by fellow fans of my club rather than watch lower league long bal, l scrappy football, with either half a stadium or with a stadium full of people on a day out cheering on both teams.
Fortunately, Spurs fans dont have to put up wit the latter scenario, where West Ham clearly do, and will.
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Topper,
If West Ham went bankrupt, which a definite possibility, i would love it.
guess I've nothing to say
As soon as WHU move into the new stadium then how long before the old ground is sold snd then how long after that will they sell up and move on????????
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I can't resist. If West Ham remain in the Championship and never leave, then yes, the OS will be a failure and a burden.
But I don't think we will never get promoted out of this league. Those who say we won't, I would argue, don't know much about football.
chicken: most of what you're saying is just conjecture and wishful thinking. Cheaper tickets will attract more people to the OS. And most will be West Ham fans who are currently unwilling to pay very high prices to watch rubbish.
For example, I go to about 1 or 2 games a season. But if I could watch Premiership football in the OS for £15, then I will go a lot more. It's basic economics. Demand and supply and equilibrium price.
Unless, of course, you are suggesting our fanbase is limited to exactly the people who fill Upton Park i.e. 30,000. Which would be yet another nonsensical statement.
Anyway, I look forward to next week when your owners fail in another appeal, and Tottenham are made to look like sour laughing stocks once again. You'll never get the Olympic Stadium. You'll be stuck at Tinpot Lane for the foreseeable future. Better hope QPR don't extend their ground, otherwise you'll then have the 5th largest ground in London.
I would like to "discuss" this with you, but firstly I wish to know which football team you support. I support Spurs ...
myhammers
chicken: most of what you're saying is just conjecture and wishful thinking.
====================================
And most of what you're saying is based on the unlikely event West Ham will get promoted again, any time soon.
West Ham Football Club are on a downwards spiral - and you know it.
chicken: Most bookies have us a favourites to go up. We have a good enough squad to do well in the Championship. We have a manager synonymous with getting results.
Of course, all the above offer no guarantee. But they are a reasonably good indication. Your saying West Ham won't go up anytime soon flies in the face of general opinion and rather exposes your appreciation of the game.
You need to distinguish the fantasy of wishing something to happen, and the reality of the actual likelihood of that thing happening.
myhammers,
We have a good enough squad to do well in the Championship
===========================
Do West Ham even know what their squad will be next season?
You seem to be so sure of how we're going to do this season and for the next few years. Maybe you can tell us.
myhammers
I dont think you're going to sail through the Championship half as much as you think you are. You lose about 4 players, make one signing & you've already got promotion sewn up in your head.
West Ham came bottom for a reason - they are not goo enough for the Prem. Both Blackpool & Birmingham are better on paper than West ham, i would also put Leeds above West Ham, so straight away the best you can hope for (in my eyes) is a play-off place.
chicken: So you know something the bookies don't. Interesting.
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posted on 25/6/11
6 figure(millions)
======================
Classic.
I can see it now, Basher going to a Mortgage Adviser claiming he can afford a million pound house because he earns £25k per year.
posted on 25/6/11
because he earns £25k per year.
................
Who exactly will pay him that sought of money?????
posted on 25/6/11
King arry: "why should West Ham want to move into Orient's back yard?
Same question to you, same point, same answer: the stadium."
...
Yes, but more pertinently, same borough. Which again begs the question (which I initially posted): what reasonable right did Tottenham have to make them think it would be ok to move to east London?
Although the judicial review is to do with the process etc, it all stems from the original decision to want to move to a different borough.
Also, just to show it's not just West Ham fans who think the recent applications for judicial review are baseless and clutching at straws, I suggest you read the below report of the judgment in the Torygraph which gives the many grounds for dismissing the application:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/8597558/Tottenham-Hotspur-and-Leyton-Orient-warned-against-appealing-Olympic-Stadium-decision.html
posted on 25/6/11
chicken: "6 figure(millions)
======================
Classic."
.....
That's a bit rich coming from someone who consistently refuses to concede that 34,941 is more than 100% of 30,000.
posted on 25/6/11
myhammers,
I've now answered you 3 times on the other thread you .
The basic jist, which i replied to you with, then referred back to when you couldnt "see it" & now referred you to a third time is this:
As you say, your biggest gate last season was 34,941, but that wasn't the norm. You even struggled to sell, and were even advertising tickets, against Spurs & Chelsea - 2 of your biggest games of the season. If you cant sell 100% of these tickets (with or without the need for round the clock advertising on the radio, bus shelters & bill boards), how the hell do you expect to sell this amount of tickets in The Long Ball League, against teams like Peterborough, Doncaster & the like?
Its simple, its just not going to happen. Quite alot of my closest mates are (or were) season ticket holders, and have been for many years, and even they have said they will not (& i quote) go to watch that pile of BEEP BEEP, whether it be for £50 or a fiver.
So if you think you will retain, even 30,000 fans from your highest attendance of last season, now you're playing tier 2 football, you are insane. Not going to happen. If you cant do the maths on that, then maybe you should go back to using an abacus.
I think you need to go Specsavers.
posted on 25/6/11
As you say, your biggest gate last season was 34,941, but that wasn't the norm. You even struggled to sell, and were even advertising tickets, against Spurs & Chelsea - 2 of your biggest games of the season.
Are Spurs fill their stadium for each and every game? I have seen some empty seats on Thursday evenings few years ago.
I am sure you have returned some away tickets for Chelsea game.
posted on 25/6/11
We averaged apprx 35,600 , we sold out every HOME league seat and we NEVER had to resort to tacky radio adds like West Ham ..........END OFF
posted on 25/6/11
squid: But Tottenham are flying high. West Ham were relegated. Yet our average attendances are very close. Of course, you do have a longer waiting list for season tickets. But Tottenham fans go on like there is a massive gulf between our support.
Imagine if the tables were turned. Would you get such big attendances if you were regularly in the bottom third?
West Ham's fortunes will change with the OS. Whether due to discounted tickets or whatever, we will, before long, eclipse your highest possible attendance. At least we have the capacity to do so.
Your owners can see that, even if the fans are concerned only with short-term success.
All Tottenham fans can deride us about is our Championship status. Fair enough. But the likelihood of our returning to the Premiership is not that remote. Any football fan would acknowledge that.
But the likelihood of Tottenham ever leaving WHL for a bigger stadium is very, very remote.
The future is claret and blue.
posted on 25/6/11
I'm sorry but everything that needed to be said has been said ....We can all deal in speculation but in the end , that's all it is ...speculation
I'm off to watch the T20 on the telly after all it is the Cricket season
posted on 25/6/11
Yup. Time to go do something else. We've all stated our arguments most clearly. I'll leave you Tottenham fans with one final comment.
West Ham's league status will change and we will, sooner or later, return to the Premiership. And we'll have the OS.
Tottenham will also be in the same league as us once we get back, but they will never leave a stadium which is too small for their lofty ambitions.
posted on 25/6/11
myhammers,
You're almost sounding as if you'd prefer to play lower league footy, as long as there's more seats around the pitch.
The only way West Ham will get close to say, 61% capacity (using the figure you used) is if non-West Ham fans, or tourists, snap up cheap (or free) tickets.
How degrading?
Whilst it would be nice to have this size stadium sooner rather than later, i think i speak on behalf of 99.9% of fans here (with myhammers being the exception), i would much rather watch my club play at the top level, ie the Prem, surrounded by fellow fans of my club rather than watch lower league long bal, l scrappy football, with either half a stadium or with a stadium full of people on a day out cheering on both teams.
Fortunately, Spurs fans dont have to put up wit the latter scenario, where West Ham clearly do, and will.
posted on 25/6/11
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posted on 25/6/11
posted on 25/6/11
Topper,
If West Ham went bankrupt, which a definite possibility, i would love it.
posted on 25/6/11
guess I've nothing to say
As soon as WHU move into the new stadium then how long before the old ground is sold snd then how long after that will they sell up and move on????????
posted on 25/6/11
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posted on 25/6/11
I can't resist. If West Ham remain in the Championship and never leave, then yes, the OS will be a failure and a burden.
But I don't think we will never get promoted out of this league. Those who say we won't, I would argue, don't know much about football.
chicken: most of what you're saying is just conjecture and wishful thinking. Cheaper tickets will attract more people to the OS. And most will be West Ham fans who are currently unwilling to pay very high prices to watch rubbish.
For example, I go to about 1 or 2 games a season. But if I could watch Premiership football in the OS for £15, then I will go a lot more. It's basic economics. Demand and supply and equilibrium price.
Unless, of course, you are suggesting our fanbase is limited to exactly the people who fill Upton Park i.e. 30,000. Which would be yet another nonsensical statement.
Anyway, I look forward to next week when your owners fail in another appeal, and Tottenham are made to look like sour laughing stocks once again. You'll never get the Olympic Stadium. You'll be stuck at Tinpot Lane for the foreseeable future. Better hope QPR don't extend their ground, otherwise you'll then have the 5th largest ground in London.
posted on 26/6/11
I would like to "discuss" this with you, but firstly I wish to know which football team you support. I support Spurs ...
posted on 27/6/11
myhammers
chicken: most of what you're saying is just conjecture and wishful thinking.
====================================
And most of what you're saying is based on the unlikely event West Ham will get promoted again, any time soon.
West Ham Football Club are on a downwards spiral - and you know it.
posted on 27/6/11
chicken: Most bookies have us a favourites to go up. We have a good enough squad to do well in the Championship. We have a manager synonymous with getting results.
Of course, all the above offer no guarantee. But they are a reasonably good indication. Your saying West Ham won't go up anytime soon flies in the face of general opinion and rather exposes your appreciation of the game.
You need to distinguish the fantasy of wishing something to happen, and the reality of the actual likelihood of that thing happening.
posted on 27/6/11
myhammers,
We have a good enough squad to do well in the Championship
===========================
Do West Ham even know what their squad will be next season?
posted on 27/6/11
You seem to be so sure of how we're going to do this season and for the next few years. Maybe you can tell us.
posted on 27/6/11
easy, dirt
posted on 27/6/11
myhammers
I dont think you're going to sail through the Championship half as much as you think you are. You lose about 4 players, make one signing & you've already got promotion sewn up in your head.
West Ham came bottom for a reason - they are not goo enough for the Prem. Both Blackpool & Birmingham are better on paper than West ham, i would also put Leeds above West Ham, so straight away the best you can hope for (in my eyes) is a play-off place.
posted on 27/6/11
chicken: So you know something the bookies don't. Interesting.
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