Aye well, we still dont know how things will transpire. If we get hammered with a massive Bill HMRC will not pull any punches in trying to reclaim that money. Thats what worries me.
Either way, we couldn't go on as we were. Wasn't doing anybody any good with the threat if admin hanging over us
heres hoping we can come out of admin, yet to here the tax verdict but can't be good if whyte has ordered this move. one thing...why now? i'm not daft enough to think this wasn't highly probable but why now? why not at the start of the season? at least we know why he didn't spend money in the summer on new players and why he gave out new contracts, seems as though he hasn't been as honest with the fans as he should have been!
Liquidation almost certainly now if that happens. Here was us thinking if the tax case was lost you would go into administration, now this has happened without the tax case
You've maybe heard from HMRC and went into admin to get a head start on them.
indeed elite,at least pheonix honda will sponcer us
IE, honestly believe this was our only option.
Tim o', can only think that is the case.
Heard darrel king say a while back that admin before the tax case would benefit rangers???
Not an accountant so don't know but that's what I've heard
Or maybe as tim o tay says, we have heard from hmrc???
Was never going to be pleasant either way. Least it's happening now. Sooner it does, sooner we can come out the other side.
Or as
Ath always hoped for some miracle, but deep down I knew admin was always the likely outcome.
Some people have said that it is to get HMRC to move on it and to rush the decision. This is just hopeful thinking.
I reckon that Whyte has had a heads up and he is just going now.
I knew it was probable its just really sad to see something you love so much in the myre. I always gave Whyte the benefit of the doubt, like he has a master plan, maybe against my better judgement. He always maintained that administration is a possibility and i accepted that, however, i dont know finances, i dont know Administration, i dont know business full stop.
What i do know is seeing it in black and white coming from a source that isnt a Celtic fan, hurts badly.
Chadams - chin up mate
Our finances have to be sorted. This is a step in the right direction to getting them sorted. It is hard to take, but sometimes you have to make hard decisions that are detrimental in the shirt term but will benefit us long term. Hopefully the tax decision is announced shortly then we know exactly where we stand
"Hopefully the tax decision is announced shortly then we know exactly where we stand"
I know mate, thats the part thats bothering me, what will happen with the taxcase?
Even when we arent buying players, im allright. Id seriously question Whytes acumen if he were to pump millions into a business that could potentially go bust.
The thing Whyte did say is that there will be no compromise over the tax case either we win it outright or go into admin, which spells that he doesnt really have a ha'penny tae rub but then again, if i had a stockpile of scores then i wouldnt be telling HMRC where i was keeping them untill after the club are out of the myre, however, as Craig Whyte is a venture capitalist i dont see his plans being that long term.
Chadams Whyte would have had me more worried about his business sense if he had pumped money in
Any financial people out there???
What happens regards the tax bill now gers have went to admin before the decision?
I posted this on another thread, mere speculation, but trying to look at it step by step from the little info that we have.
"The thing is, at this moment, HMRC are NOT creditors as they havent won the tax case yet. Once the result of the tax case is known they could then potentially become creditors. As of now, if in the next ten days HMRC dont get their tuppence in, they will get diddly squat.
We might see HMRC act quickly now, they cant rush the courts decision however it may, if they arent completely sure in their case, force them to a compromise."
wheres all them kerrydale accountants now
maybe you could employ them
"wheres all them kerrydale accountants now
maybe you could employ them"
Forgive me for not believing our biggest rivals fans could report on something without an agenda.
To be fair, £49m is a HUGE hole in any clubs finances, and noone can really run a football club with that hanging over them unless they have a magic ball to look into the future.
This tax mess was meant to be sorted by November, and then again by January and the fact it's still running on, is probably what has forced this to a head.
The reason it is now is so that there is the chance of getting back out before the deadline for Europe. Wait any longer and we'd be ineligible for Europe next season.
The club needs direction, it can't continue like this and HMRC delays in November have brought it to a head prior to the announcement of the tax case.
Wanyama- nah, the. Kerry fail accountants are useless. They predicted admin in January 09, summer 09, January 10, summer 10, January 11, summer 11, January 12.
All wrong
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posted on 13/2/12
Aye well, we still dont know how things will transpire. If we get hammered with a massive Bill HMRC will not pull any punches in trying to reclaim that money. Thats what worries me.
posted on 13/2/12
Either way, we couldn't go on as we were. Wasn't doing anybody any good with the threat if admin hanging over us
posted on 13/2/12
heres hoping we can come out of admin, yet to here the tax verdict but can't be good if whyte has ordered this move. one thing...why now? i'm not daft enough to think this wasn't highly probable but why now? why not at the start of the season? at least we know why he didn't spend money in the summer on new players and why he gave out new contracts, seems as though he hasn't been as honest with the fans as he should have been!
posted on 13/2/12
Liquidation almost certainly now if that happens. Here was us thinking if the tax case was lost you would go into administration, now this has happened without the tax case
posted on 13/2/12
You've maybe heard from HMRC and went into admin to get a head start on them.
posted on 13/2/12
indeed elite,at least pheonix honda will sponcer us
posted on 13/2/12
IE, honestly believe this was our only option.
Tim o', can only think that is the case.
posted on 13/2/12
Heard darrel king say a while back that admin before the tax case would benefit rangers???
Not an accountant so don't know but that's what I've heard
Or maybe as tim o tay says, we have heard from hmrc???
Was never going to be pleasant either way. Least it's happening now. Sooner it does, sooner we can come out the other side.
Or as
posted on 13/2/12
Ath always hoped for some miracle, but deep down I knew admin was always the likely outcome.
posted on 13/2/12
Some people have said that it is to get HMRC to move on it and to rush the decision. This is just hopeful thinking.
I reckon that Whyte has had a heads up and he is just going now.
I knew it was probable its just really sad to see something you love so much in the myre. I always gave Whyte the benefit of the doubt, like he has a master plan, maybe against my better judgement. He always maintained that administration is a possibility and i accepted that, however, i dont know finances, i dont know Administration, i dont know business full stop.
What i do know is seeing it in black and white coming from a source that isnt a Celtic fan, hurts badly.
posted on 13/2/12
Chadams - chin up mate
Our finances have to be sorted. This is a step in the right direction to getting them sorted. It is hard to take, but sometimes you have to make hard decisions that are detrimental in the shirt term but will benefit us long term. Hopefully the tax decision is announced shortly then we know exactly where we stand
posted on 13/2/12
"Hopefully the tax decision is announced shortly then we know exactly where we stand"
I know mate, thats the part thats bothering me, what will happen with the taxcase?
Even when we arent buying players, im allright. Id seriously question Whytes acumen if he were to pump millions into a business that could potentially go bust.
The thing Whyte did say is that there will be no compromise over the tax case either we win it outright or go into admin, which spells that he doesnt really have a ha'penny tae rub but then again, if i had a stockpile of scores then i wouldnt be telling HMRC where i was keeping them untill after the club are out of the myre, however, as Craig Whyte is a venture capitalist i dont see his plans being that long term.
posted on 13/2/12
Chadams Whyte would have had me more worried about his business sense if he had pumped money in
Any financial people out there???
What happens regards the tax bill now gers have went to admin before the decision?
posted on 13/2/12
I posted this on another thread, mere speculation, but trying to look at it step by step from the little info that we have.
"The thing is, at this moment, HMRC are NOT creditors as they havent won the tax case yet. Once the result of the tax case is known they could then potentially become creditors. As of now, if in the next ten days HMRC dont get their tuppence in, they will get diddly squat.
We might see HMRC act quickly now, they cant rush the courts decision however it may, if they arent completely sure in their case, force them to a compromise."
posted on 13/2/12
wheres all them kerrydale accountants now
maybe you could employ them
posted on 13/2/12
"wheres all them kerrydale accountants now
maybe you could employ them"
Forgive me for not believing our biggest rivals fans could report on something without an agenda.
posted on 13/2/12
To be fair, £49m is a HUGE hole in any clubs finances, and noone can really run a football club with that hanging over them unless they have a magic ball to look into the future.
This tax mess was meant to be sorted by November, and then again by January and the fact it's still running on, is probably what has forced this to a head.
posted on 13/2/12
The reason it is now is so that there is the chance of getting back out before the deadline for Europe. Wait any longer and we'd be ineligible for Europe next season.
The club needs direction, it can't continue like this and HMRC delays in November have brought it to a head prior to the announcement of the tax case.
posted on 14/2/12
Wanyama- nah, the. Kerry fail accountants are useless. They predicted admin in January 09, summer 09, January 10, summer 10, January 11, summer 11, January 12.
All wrong
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