He won't change his personality for the sake of our club. Of course we need to get rid of the players you mention first but I don't see Sturridge has a long future with us because he's too greedy. If he has the talent of Ronaldo I can tolerate his attitude but come on you know he will never be that good.
Sturridge has so much potential, and he's won us a lot of points, but isn't it funny that these articles about him being unhappy surfaced and his contract problems and he started playing badly. I find him one of the hardest Chelsea players to take too just because of his attitude, we warned about this by city fans and it seems it's coming true.
The one thing I'll give to torres and meireles etc is that at least there trying every game, whereas with sturridge he seems like someone who has given up in a period where we need players to run their hearts out. I would love him to stay, but if he handed in a transfer request in summer I honestly wouldn't be too bothered
It seems most of you lot saying you wouldnt mind if Sturridge left are basically resigning to the fact that we will never win the Prem again and not even get back into the top 4 anytime soon.
He may have an attitude problem but even now he is by far and away not the worst Chelsea player on the pitch. If you want to criticise him off the pitch there are far worse antics coming from the likes of Lampard (moaning about his place in the team) and obviously Terry.
Sell Sturridge and I'm telling you now. This club will be totally screwed. We are meant to build a squad with the likes of Sturridge involved, not replace!!
Gullit Ghost.........
Well said mate!
People forget this is his first season in the first team and we should be careful to believe what the press are saying...........that is a fact.
He has got loads of improving to do no doubt, but he probably is not being helped by the senior players that are not setting the right example.
People calling for Sturridge to go are risking throwing the baby out with the bath water.
United would have got rid of Rooney years ago if they adopted the same attitude, but instead they invested time and effort in educating and maturing the young man.
We need to do the same at Chelsea with Sturridge, although it is easier done when you have an older manager like Fergie who has gravitas.
I agree Gullit. Sturridge has his flaws, both attitude wise and fot his footballing side but I am adamant theyw ill improve. There are simply far bigger problems.
It's not resigning to that fact at all, it's just that the guy is kinda arrogant when it's not warranted. And the people like lampard and terry have been criticised especially lampard and sturridge shouldn't be any different. Despite his talent if we sold him in summer, I guarentee avb would find a good replacement
Rooney never lacks effort
Mou did it with Cole, Hiddink with Malouda and AVB I think will get the best out of Sturridge
MO
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EXACTLY!!!
I think Chelsea fans are being far too influenced by the press. Judge him by his interviews and what you see him do on the pitch and not on what the press say.
Thats one reason why I don't even read press reports on Chelsea or any other football for that matter.
Chelseafc.com and watching the 90minutes we play + post match interviews is enough for me to judge a player from rather than twisted press reports.
Also absolutely correct with regards to his age and the seniors around him who are setting a bad example!!!
You've got proven World Class seniors at Chelsea on mega wages, thinking they rule the roost, putting in shoddy performances and moaning when they get dropped.
At Man United you've got proven World Class seniors on big wages, who put in a great shift more often than not becuase they realise the team does not revolve around them and understand they can be a greater asset to the club if they are used sparingly.
That right there shows that United have a set up where younger players can develop the right attitude.
The likes of Gullit, Vialli and Zola were great role models for younger players. Our current seniors need to adpot the same approach.
Avb was getting the best out of sturridge, even when we were playing badly he was one of our shining stars, but that's all of a sudden stopped. Like I said would love him to stay, but wouldn't be gutted if he left
The whole team has been in poor form though, I would be alot more worried if Sturridge was the only one whose peformances had dropped. I do think we'll see good form from him and the team in general before the season ends...this can't go on forever...can it? And maybe another reason he was doing so well earlier was that the highline suited him, more quick play, earlier balls, and possibly another reason to go back to it.. <ol>
comment by Don mata - In Avb we trust (U10332)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's not resigning to that fact at all, it's just that the guy is kinda arrogant when it's not warranted. And the people like lampard and terry have been criticised especially lampard and sturridge shouldn't be any different. Despite his talent if we sold him in summer, I guarentee avb would find a good replacement
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Thats just it! We risk having to find a replacement. Plus if we don't come 4th then I think you need to change the word 'guarantee'.
Adding a player of Sturridge's quality to the squad is better for Chelsea than just having to replace him. No progress would be made with regards to team development. Also take into account that we need home-grown players.
Sturridge is naturally a striker so give him credit for being asked to play out of position all season.
Well reading these pages over the last few days, it looks like no one has escaped criticism.
Yes were not playing well, some players do not seem to be putting in a shift and the manager is making some poor decisions - but the transfer window is shut!
No one is coming in and no one is going until at least the end of the season.
The media have been picking holes in chelsea players all season - and it looks like we are all now joining in.
If we're going to get anything out of this season then we need to at least do our bit and get behind the team.
They probably don't deserve it but what else can we do?
Afraid I can't back you in the defence of Meireles though, I was distraught when I found out he was our last minute 'desperation' signing and have seen nothing so far to make me change my mind!
IMO we should have kept Benny and not bothered with the surplus to Liverpool requirements player
Meireles has been awful the last two months after a promising start,and it depresses me that he can hold down a regular midfield place in our current team.
Says it all really!
They probably don't deserve it but what else can we do?
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Players like Mata, Strurridge, Ramires and Ivanovic in paticular deserve our support.
If it wernt for these 4 we would be worse off this season.
Just because Sturridge finally has a bad spell hes now getting slated .
I wonder how hes feeling being asked to play out of position and seeing Torres muck up golden opportunities.
I see what your saying tbk, but does sturridge even look like he's even trying? Bosingwa, meireles, torres, mata, luiz, ivanovic, terry, romeu, ramires all look like they are at least always trying to perform in the games they are picked for and most of them are likely to be in Avb's 'revolution'. Sturridge should also be part of this group, but it sometimes looks as if he doesn't want to be on the pitch. I'm hoping it changes and think it will, but he just kinda reminds of anelka
Not finishing in the top 4 doesn't mean we won't be able to find good players
Players like Mata, Strurridge, Ramires and Ivanovic in paticular deserve our support.
If it wernt for these 4 we would be worse off this season.
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surely lampard deserves some support too? But he's one of our most criticised because of his attitude
Don Mata
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Sooo look at it this way.
Sturridge doesn't try yet he has managed to win us games and save us cruical points.
The likes of Bossy, Meireles and Torres for example are trying yet all 3 combined have provided less benefits to this team than Sturridge.
If they are trying yet continue to cost us games, then theres your problem. Get them out, they are not good enough.
Puyol can probably control the ball better than all of our players bar Mata. How sad is that lol.
GG
Agreed we've had few shining lights this season. I'd add JT to that list, he's done little wrong.
But we seem to have got to a point where we're slagging off most of our squad for one reason or another. Despite most of those reasons being perfectly valid the squad ain't going to change - so what do we do?
Continue to barrack, or show some unity and support - we really don't have much to lose at this point so lets get behing the team and the manager.
The media will do all they can to undermine us - we don't have to join in!!
comment by Don mata - In Avb we trust (U10332)
posted 1 minute ago
Players like Mata, Strurridge, Ramires and Ivanovic in paticular deserve our support.
If it wernt for these 4 we would be worse off this season.
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surely lampard deserves some support too? But he's one of our most criticised because of his attitude
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Lamps attitude has been so bad. If he accepted 'the Scholes role' maybe that might have made AVBS job easier to know he has the full backing of our seniors and maybe this might have rubbed off on Sturridge to realise how to be a respectful player and work for the team.
I honestly fell that the likes of Lampards outburst has affected AVBs decision making therefore costing us winnable games.
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posted on 15/2/12
He won't change his personality for the sake of our club. Of course we need to get rid of the players you mention first but I don't see Sturridge has a long future with us because he's too greedy. If he has the talent of Ronaldo I can tolerate his attitude but come on you know he will never be that good.
posted on 15/2/12
Sturridge has so much potential, and he's won us a lot of points, but isn't it funny that these articles about him being unhappy surfaced and his contract problems and he started playing badly. I find him one of the hardest Chelsea players to take too just because of his attitude, we warned about this by city fans and it seems it's coming true.
The one thing I'll give to torres and meireles etc is that at least there trying every game, whereas with sturridge he seems like someone who has given up in a period where we need players to run their hearts out. I would love him to stay, but if he handed in a transfer request in summer I honestly wouldn't be too bothered
posted on 15/2/12
It seems most of you lot saying you wouldnt mind if Sturridge left are basically resigning to the fact that we will never win the Prem again and not even get back into the top 4 anytime soon.
He may have an attitude problem but even now he is by far and away not the worst Chelsea player on the pitch. If you want to criticise him off the pitch there are far worse antics coming from the likes of Lampard (moaning about his place in the team) and obviously Terry.
Sell Sturridge and I'm telling you now. This club will be totally screwed. We are meant to build a squad with the likes of Sturridge involved, not replace!!
posted on 15/2/12
Gullit Ghost.........
Well said mate!
People forget this is his first season in the first team and we should be careful to believe what the press are saying...........that is a fact.
He has got loads of improving to do no doubt, but he probably is not being helped by the senior players that are not setting the right example.
People calling for Sturridge to go are risking throwing the baby out with the bath water.
United would have got rid of Rooney years ago if they adopted the same attitude, but instead they invested time and effort in educating and maturing the young man.
We need to do the same at Chelsea with Sturridge, although it is easier done when you have an older manager like Fergie who has gravitas.
posted on 15/2/12
I agree Gullit. Sturridge has his flaws, both attitude wise and fot his footballing side but I am adamant theyw ill improve. There are simply far bigger problems.
posted on 15/2/12
It's not resigning to that fact at all, it's just that the guy is kinda arrogant when it's not warranted. And the people like lampard and terry have been criticised especially lampard and sturridge shouldn't be any different. Despite his talent if we sold him in summer, I guarentee avb would find a good replacement
posted on 15/2/12
Rooney never lacks effort
posted on 15/2/12
Tcp
posted on 15/2/12
Mou did it with Cole, Hiddink with Malouda and AVB I think will get the best out of Sturridge
posted on 15/2/12
MO
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EXACTLY!!!
I think Chelsea fans are being far too influenced by the press. Judge him by his interviews and what you see him do on the pitch and not on what the press say.
Thats one reason why I don't even read press reports on Chelsea or any other football for that matter.
Chelseafc.com and watching the 90minutes we play + post match interviews is enough for me to judge a player from rather than twisted press reports.
Also absolutely correct with regards to his age and the seniors around him who are setting a bad example!!!
You've got proven World Class seniors at Chelsea on mega wages, thinking they rule the roost, putting in shoddy performances and moaning when they get dropped.
At Man United you've got proven World Class seniors on big wages, who put in a great shift more often than not becuase they realise the team does not revolve around them and understand they can be a greater asset to the club if they are used sparingly.
That right there shows that United have a set up where younger players can develop the right attitude.
The likes of Gullit, Vialli and Zola were great role models for younger players. Our current seniors need to adpot the same approach.
posted on 15/2/12
Avb was getting the best out of sturridge, even when we were playing badly he was one of our shining stars, but that's all of a sudden stopped. Like I said would love him to stay, but wouldn't be gutted if he left
posted on 15/2/12
The whole team has been in poor form though, I would be alot more worried if Sturridge was the only one whose peformances had dropped. I do think we'll see good form from him and the team in general before the season ends...this can't go on forever...can it? And maybe another reason he was doing so well earlier was that the highline suited him, more quick play, earlier balls, and possibly another reason to go back to it.. <ol>
posted on 15/2/12
comment by Don mata - In Avb we trust (U10332)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's not resigning to that fact at all, it's just that the guy is kinda arrogant when it's not warranted. And the people like lampard and terry have been criticised especially lampard and sturridge shouldn't be any different. Despite his talent if we sold him in summer, I guarentee avb would find a good replacement
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Thats just it! We risk having to find a replacement. Plus if we don't come 4th then I think you need to change the word 'guarantee'.
Adding a player of Sturridge's quality to the squad is better for Chelsea than just having to replace him. No progress would be made with regards to team development. Also take into account that we need home-grown players.
Sturridge is naturally a striker so give him credit for being asked to play out of position all season.
posted on 15/2/12
Well reading these pages over the last few days, it looks like no one has escaped criticism.
Yes were not playing well, some players do not seem to be putting in a shift and the manager is making some poor decisions - but the transfer window is shut!
No one is coming in and no one is going until at least the end of the season.
The media have been picking holes in chelsea players all season - and it looks like we are all now joining in.
If we're going to get anything out of this season then we need to at least do our bit and get behind the team.
They probably don't deserve it but what else can we do?
posted on 15/2/12
Afraid I can't back you in the defence of Meireles though, I was distraught when I found out he was our last minute 'desperation' signing and have seen nothing so far to make me change my mind!
IMO we should have kept Benny and not bothered with the surplus to Liverpool requirements player
posted on 15/2/12
Meireles has been awful the last two months after a promising start,and it depresses me that he can hold down a regular midfield place in our current team.
Says it all really!
posted on 15/2/12
They probably don't deserve it but what else can we do?
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Players like Mata, Strurridge, Ramires and Ivanovic in paticular deserve our support.
If it wernt for these 4 we would be worse off this season.
Just because Sturridge finally has a bad spell hes now getting slated .
I wonder how hes feeling being asked to play out of position and seeing Torres muck up golden opportunities.
posted on 15/2/12
I see what your saying tbk, but does sturridge even look like he's even trying? Bosingwa, meireles, torres, mata, luiz, ivanovic, terry, romeu, ramires all look like they are at least always trying to perform in the games they are picked for and most of them are likely to be in Avb's 'revolution'. Sturridge should also be part of this group, but it sometimes looks as if he doesn't want to be on the pitch. I'm hoping it changes and think it will, but he just kinda reminds of anelka
posted on 15/2/12
Not finishing in the top 4 doesn't mean we won't be able to find good players
posted on 15/2/12
Players like Mata, Strurridge, Ramires and Ivanovic in paticular deserve our support.
If it wernt for these 4 we would be worse off this season.
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surely lampard deserves some support too? But he's one of our most criticised because of his attitude
posted on 15/2/12
Don Mata
---------------------------
Sooo look at it this way.
Sturridge doesn't try yet he has managed to win us games and save us cruical points.
The likes of Bossy, Meireles and Torres for example are trying yet all 3 combined have provided less benefits to this team than Sturridge.
If they are trying yet continue to cost us games, then theres your problem. Get them out, they are not good enough.
posted on 15/2/12
Puyol can probably control the ball better than all of our players bar Mata. How sad is that lol.
posted on 15/2/12
GG
Agreed we've had few shining lights this season. I'd add JT to that list, he's done little wrong.
But we seem to have got to a point where we're slagging off most of our squad for one reason or another. Despite most of those reasons being perfectly valid the squad ain't going to change - so what do we do?
Continue to barrack, or show some unity and support - we really don't have much to lose at this point so lets get behing the team and the manager.
The media will do all they can to undermine us - we don't have to join in!!
posted on 15/2/12
comment by Don mata - In Avb we trust (U10332)
posted 1 minute ago
Players like Mata, Strurridge, Ramires and Ivanovic in paticular deserve our support.
If it wernt for these 4 we would be worse off this season.
---------------------
surely lampard deserves some support too? But he's one of our most criticised because of his attitude
---------------------
Lamps attitude has been so bad. If he accepted 'the Scholes role' maybe that might have made AVBS job easier to know he has the full backing of our seniors and maybe this might have rubbed off on Sturridge to realise how to be a respectful player and work for the team.
posted on 15/2/12
I honestly fell that the likes of Lampards outburst has affected AVBs decision making therefore costing us winnable games.
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