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posted on 1/8/12

If I could get Witsel/Negredo/Monreal in return then yeah.

posted on 1/8/12

Actually I don't think we could do a deal as Uchida would start for you and none of your squad would regularly start for me and I don't really want to improve one of my rivals' starting XI to improve my subs bench.

posted on 1/8/12

Not really sorry

posted on 1/8/12

Yeah but Witsel wouldn't necessarily start for me as Carrick is > than him.

posted on 1/8/12

Might be a few but I'm undecided on who's leaving yet so can't say anything till after my two finals

posted on 1/8/12

Witsel is too similar too Carrick and Mikel is more defensive so Mikel and Carrick complement each other quite well so I'd play Mikel over Witsel plus I think he's better anyway.

posted on 1/8/12

For those three would have to be very good P/ex unlikely to be able to get Doumbia though

posted on 1/8/12

How does this sound?

Uchida + Mavuba + Rolando + Pepe
=
Gonul + Witsel + M'Bia + Farfan

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Firstly, I believe you are overrating Witsel as Carrick is by far a better player.
He was our best central midfielder this season for the 2nd best side in England (only by goal difference aswell).

I also prefer Pieters to Monreal and I am a bit unsure on Matri/Negredo.

But I definitely don't want to do the last deal as in my opinion:
Uchida > Gonul
Mavuba < Witsel (But I think my other central midfielders are better anyway)
Rolando > M'Bia (Not to mention CB is my current weakest area so I don't want to weaken it even more.)
Pepe > Farfan (Pepe was a starter for the side that went unbeaten all season in Italy...)

So, I can't really see a deal happening here sorry.

posted on 1/8/12

Witsel is far from being 'easily' better than Mikel.
And Pepe played 31 out of a possible 38 in the league for Juventus last season...

posted on 1/8/12

Like I say probably won't be selling Doumbia, Mandanda >> Muslera imo so going to need squad improvements elsewhere but don't want to do anything until end of season

posted on 1/8/12

Krasic barely played and was going to be sold in January, I can't remember why he wasn't but Pepe started ahead of him.

posted on 1/8/12

No thanks prefer my two, a fit Rodwell is a great player

posted on 1/8/12

No not doing anything now don't even want to nagotiate on them really have other deals to sort first, but don't think I'd accept that, prefer Mbia in midfield at DM and don't need another one

posted on 1/8/12

I still think I lose out too much and I've just seen that LSTD prefers M'Bia in midfield than defence...

posted on 1/8/12

As I said before, I believe that CB is the weakest part of my team, I don't want to weaken it anymore.
Also, I believe there is a bigger difference between the ones you're winning than mine.

posted on 1/8/12

Matri plays for the team that went unbeaten all season.
Negredo is FAR from being >>>> Matri.
Witsel is > Mavuba.
Mavuba is a good player and was a key player, the year Lille won the league.
Uchida is a lot better than Gonul who really isn't great.
Rolando is a lot better than Wollscheid and money is worthless.

If that deal was so much in my favour as you seem to be claiming, you wouldn't be doing it.

posted on 1/8/12

I still overall think I'm losing out too much so I guess we'll have to leave it.

posted on 1/8/12

I think 3 of mine are better already...

posted on 1/8/12

I am a big fan of Huddlestone but no one else seems to rate him and with Sandro and Parker playing really well last season I can't see him getting back into the team.

posted on 1/8/12

As I said originally, there is no one in your squad that I think improves my starting XI enough to lose Uchida for.

posted on 1/8/12

I lose a starting 11 player so no it's not fair...

posted on 1/8/12

Firstly, Mavuba is probably better than Medel and would start for you.
Secondly, just because you believe Witsel is better than Carrick + Mikel doesn't mean I have to aswell and I still believe he's not and so I wouldn't have strengthened my starting 11 before.
Thirdly, Huddlestone would be 5th choice, Ruben would be 3rd and Gonul would still only be 2nd choice behind Beck. That is a very poor deal for me.
Finally, you may have lost Diego for Lodeiro but I never forced you to do that, you may have been generous but sorry that isn't how I do transfers, I only do them if I feel they work in my favour and I don't believe any offer you have gave me has worked in my favour.

posted on 1/8/12

No offence but my transfers this season have been a hell of a lot better than yours.
I've taken Sunderland from bottom of the league after about 10 games to 13th in the league and had a much worse side than yours.
You took over Wigan in 12th position with a really good side that had a chance of pushing for the top half but you made silly transfers like sold Pirlo for cash and you have remained in 12th but luckily enough for you, the previous manager gained you a big enough gap above 13th that you were able to remain there.

If I get hit that badly by injuries, I could play Zarate or Bellamy up front if I had to, I have no need for Huddlestone and you can play who you want but you don't decide results. LSTD does and he doesn't rate Huddlestone that highly so I don't want him.

If this deal is so amazing for me, why would you want to do it?
Because you know that it is better to have a great starting XI than some half decent squad players that realistically will probably play a maximum of 5 games a season for you.

posted on 1/8/12

Please don't try and make out like I'm starting an arguement when that is clearly you.

For some reason you don't seem to be able to accept that I don't want to do a deal that doesn't benefit me at all.

I may overrate my players but so does everyone, Zarate was a striker when he was on loan at Birmingham and Bellamy was a striker all his career before he joined City and I still believe that they would be better options up front than Ruben anyway. Plus what are the odds I would get 2 injuries to Matri and Kerzhakov without signing anyone else before hand anyway?

And how was I ever going to take over you when you were probably more than 10 points ahead when you took over?

posted on 1/8/12

Still prefer my two sorry, Sakho plays lb as well so very handy to have, Lodeiro playing for Botafogo now so ratings will go down a bit and i rate Sulejmani very highly...

I do like Mbia but not gonna lose Sakho for him

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