comment by AVB Squats Instructor (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
Have you been living under a rock? It is obviously not clear enough proof as the world have been up in arms about the decision to ban Suarez based on the words of Evra with no evidence, on what they decided was the balance of probability. Now if you're too lazy to read the report then don't come on here, making yourself look stupid
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The FA take racism or racial abuse very seriously, they seen footage of the incedent over and over again and spoke directly to the players and the officials. Most racial abuse reported will have no evidence as it's between two players normally off the camera, it doesn't mean the FA shouldn't do something about it.
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I completely agreed, up until this point.
"Evra isn't the most trusting person ever but i doubt he will bring up that someone has racially abused him just to get the other player in trouble."
On this point I'm not so sure but regardless, Evra claimed Suarez called him "n*g*er" meaning he either misheard him or tried to get him in trouble.
So regardless of what Evra would or wouldn't do, he was wrong, before it even started.
He then changed his statement in saying Suarez said something like "porque tu eros negro" which means in English 'because you are black'. Spanish people around the word fell in raptures when they heard this as there is no way any native Spanish speaker would have uttered those words, however somebody who is not fluent, such as Evra, could have.
So the FA found on the balance of probability that Suarez was guilty because he was unreliable, even though Evra, had proved to be also.
It was a botched hearing and that is why Liverpool fans still back Suarez, not that they back somebody who racially abused another.
And quite frankly, I wouldn't have cared if he did racially abuse Evra. For me it's just like all other forms of abuse, if you want to dish it out, then be prepared to take it back, without going running to the authorities, like a little girl. Now if Suarez had racist views, that would be a different matter, but if you look into Suarez, the story behind him, you'll find that this, is quite frankly, impossible.
Racial abuse, is abusing somebody, user his/her race. There are various ways in which this can happen. A racist will use this language often. Somebody might get angry a blurt out something, somebody might be ignorant and the list goes on.
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So you can constantly abuse someone with racist remarks and jibes and deny yourself to be a racist???
You need a head check.
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 1 minute ago
Downing looked great
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Cheers TCP, I thought he had a great game!
comment by IzutaDGuus - The ExtraTorresTrial - A Mata of ... (U3581)
posted 5 minutes ago
Racial abuse is closely linked to Racism. FACT! Only Difference is consistency. For example if Suarez insults another person racially soon, he'll be officially branded a racist. He could be one right now but he needs to be caught at least twice. This is just my opinion though.
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Don't label something fact and opinion please. It hurts my head.
It's his level, definitely
comment by IzutaDGuus - The ExtraTorresTrial - A Mata of ... (U3581)
posted 3 minutes ago
What I do know is that Suarez is a vile man and even though he might not be a racist, is willing to wind an opponent up using whatever means possible including racial abuse. The sheer number of times he used the 'neg' word in his relations with evra show that he simply wanted to wind him up.
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How many times was that?
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 32 seconds ago
It's his level, definitely
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What, cup finals? Good news for us!
comment by Gullits Ghost - Footballers in todays Era have... (U12910)
posted 2 minutes ago
Racial abuse, is abusing somebody, user his/her race. There are various ways in which this can happen. A racist will use this language often. Somebody might get angry a blurt out something, somebody might be ignorant and the list goes on.
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So you can constantly abuse someone with racist remarks and jibes and deny yourself to be a racist???
You need a head check.
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I didn't say that at all. My god, you Chelsea fans sure are the masters of taking somebody's words and changing them to suit.
Torres 50million no goals in 21 games Chelsea taunt Liverpool about racism and have John Terry and the Chelsea head hunters they have an owner who is a laughing stock players that hate the manager players forced to hug the manager after a goal the owner picks the Chelsea team
Anyway getting back to the point - Liverpool fans celebrating winning the League Cup on penalties against a Champonship side as if it were the World Cup
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Is there a different way in which we should celebrate for different competitions. Can you clarify please? Perhaps less hugging, spraying fewer bottles of champagne for the lesser cups. For World Cups, a bit of a dance, doing a conga.
If cleebration is based on the occasion, then next time you play West Brom, I expect a more muted celebration to when you score a goal, than when you score against Man Utd. Agree?
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 51 seconds ago
Championship Freddie
___________________________
We knocked Chelsea out with Downing in the side, what does that tell you?
Torres leaving still hurts
He can't assist or score against prem teams
comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Li... (U3979)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 51 seconds ago
Championship Freddie
___________________________
We knocked Chelsea out with Downing in the side, what does that tell you?
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Plus he got Man of the Match in the final, scored in a previous match and got an assist. All in all a good contribution to the trophy win. Liverpool one trophy, Chelsea zero. At least you got a medal, ask Meireles to share it round.
Yes, the CC is the poor mans FA Cup
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
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Well I'm telling you that there is no excuse to belittle someone and focus on the colour of somones skin to dish out abuse when there are so many other generic ways to abuse someone.
Racist abuse is not needed, the colour of someones skin is TOTALLY irrelevant.
If you want to bring up skin colour and reference it multiple times, you are indeed a RACIST!!!! Maybe not to the extent where you wish death upon other ethnic groups, but definetly enough to be able to resort to constant verbal abuse based on the colour of anothers skin.
Chelsea can't point to any players at Liverpool and say their a waste of money without being huge hypocrites, Torres is the worst in the history of world football and you know it.
They'll cut Meireles' medal in 23 chunks to hand out to the Chelsea players
cup
Kenny get a new crown made ?
Fred
Torres will be first in line.
Be nice to leave Chelsea at the end of the season with something to show for it.
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posted on 27/2/12
Downing looked great
posted on 27/2/12
comment by AVB Squats Instructor (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
Have you been living under a rock? It is obviously not clear enough proof as the world have been up in arms about the decision to ban Suarez based on the words of Evra with no evidence, on what they decided was the balance of probability. Now if you're too lazy to read the report then don't come on here, making yourself look stupid
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The FA take racism or racial abuse very seriously, they seen footage of the incedent over and over again and spoke directly to the players and the officials. Most racial abuse reported will have no evidence as it's between two players normally off the camera, it doesn't mean the FA shouldn't do something about it.
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I completely agreed, up until this point.
"Evra isn't the most trusting person ever but i doubt he will bring up that someone has racially abused him just to get the other player in trouble."
On this point I'm not so sure but regardless, Evra claimed Suarez called him "n*g*er" meaning he either misheard him or tried to get him in trouble.
So regardless of what Evra would or wouldn't do, he was wrong, before it even started.
He then changed his statement in saying Suarez said something like "porque tu eros negro" which means in English 'because you are black'. Spanish people around the word fell in raptures when they heard this as there is no way any native Spanish speaker would have uttered those words, however somebody who is not fluent, such as Evra, could have.
So the FA found on the balance of probability that Suarez was guilty because he was unreliable, even though Evra, had proved to be also.
It was a botched hearing and that is why Liverpool fans still back Suarez, not that they back somebody who racially abused another.
And quite frankly, I wouldn't have cared if he did racially abuse Evra. For me it's just like all other forms of abuse, if you want to dish it out, then be prepared to take it back, without going running to the authorities, like a little girl. Now if Suarez had racist views, that would be a different matter, but if you look into Suarez, the story behind him, you'll find that this, is quite frankly, impossible.
posted on 27/2/12
Racial abuse, is abusing somebody, user his/her race. There are various ways in which this can happen. A racist will use this language often. Somebody might get angry a blurt out something, somebody might be ignorant and the list goes on.
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So you can constantly abuse someone with racist remarks and jibes and deny yourself to be a racist???
You need a head check.
posted on 27/2/12
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 1 minute ago
Downing looked great
___________________________
Cheers TCP, I thought he had a great game!
posted on 27/2/12
comment by IzutaDGuus - The ExtraTorresTrial - A Mata of ... (U3581)
posted 5 minutes ago
Racial abuse is closely linked to Racism. FACT! Only Difference is consistency. For example if Suarez insults another person racially soon, he'll be officially branded a racist. He could be one right now but he needs to be caught at least twice. This is just my opinion though.
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Don't label something fact and opinion please. It hurts my head.
posted on 27/2/12
It's his level, definitely
posted on 27/2/12
But above Carroll's
posted on 27/2/12
comment by IzutaDGuus - The ExtraTorresTrial - A Mata of ... (U3581)
posted 3 minutes ago
What I do know is that Suarez is a vile man and even though he might not be a racist, is willing to wind an opponent up using whatever means possible including racial abuse. The sheer number of times he used the 'neg' word in his relations with evra show that he simply wanted to wind him up.
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How many times was that?
posted on 27/2/12
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 32 seconds ago
It's his level, definitely
____________________________________
What, cup finals? Good news for us!
posted on 27/2/12
Championship Freddie
posted on 27/2/12
comment by Gullits Ghost - Footballers in todays Era have... (U12910)
posted 2 minutes ago
Racial abuse, is abusing somebody, user his/her race. There are various ways in which this can happen. A racist will use this language often. Somebody might get angry a blurt out something, somebody might be ignorant and the list goes on.
---------------------------
So you can constantly abuse someone with racist remarks and jibes and deny yourself to be a racist???
You need a head check.
--------------------------
I didn't say that at all. My god, you Chelsea fans sure are the masters of taking somebody's words and changing them to suit.
posted on 27/2/12
Torres 50million no goals in 21 games Chelsea taunt Liverpool about racism and have John Terry and the Chelsea head hunters they have an owner who is a laughing stock players that hate the manager players forced to hug the manager after a goal the owner picks the Chelsea team
posted on 27/2/12
Anyway getting back to the point - Liverpool fans celebrating winning the League Cup on penalties against a Champonship side as if it were the World Cup
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Is there a different way in which we should celebrate for different competitions. Can you clarify please? Perhaps less hugging, spraying fewer bottles of champagne for the lesser cups. For World Cups, a bit of a dance, doing a conga.
If cleebration is based on the occasion, then next time you play West Brom, I expect a more muted celebration to when you score a goal, than when you score against Man Utd. Agree?
posted on 27/2/12
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 51 seconds ago
Championship Freddie
___________________________
We knocked Chelsea out with Downing in the side, what does that tell you?
posted on 27/2/12
Torres leaving still hurts
posted on 27/2/12
He can't assist or score against prem teams
posted on 27/2/12
comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Li... (U3979)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 51 seconds ago
Championship Freddie
___________________________
We knocked Chelsea out with Downing in the side, what does that tell you?
--------------------------------------
Plus he got Man of the Match in the final, scored in a previous match and got an assist. All in all a good contribution to the trophy win. Liverpool one trophy, Chelsea zero. At least you got a medal, ask Meireles to share it round.
posted on 27/2/12
Yes, the CC is the poor mans FA Cup
posted on 27/2/12
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
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Well I'm telling you that there is no excuse to belittle someone and focus on the colour of somones skin to dish out abuse when there are so many other generic ways to abuse someone.
Racist abuse is not needed, the colour of someones skin is TOTALLY irrelevant.
If you want to bring up skin colour and reference it multiple times, you are indeed a RACIST!!!! Maybe not to the extent where you wish death upon other ethnic groups, but definetly enough to be able to resort to constant verbal abuse based on the colour of anothers skin.
posted on 27/2/12
Chelsea can't point to any players at Liverpool and say their a waste of money without being huge hypocrites, Torres is the worst in the history of world football and you know it.
posted on 27/2/12
They'll cut Meireles' medal in 23 chunks to hand out to the Chelsea players
posted on 27/2/12
cup
Kenny get a new crown made ?
posted on 27/2/12
Matching t-shirts
posted on 27/2/12
Fred
Torres will be first in line.
Be nice to leave Chelsea at the end of the season with something to show for it.
posted on 27/2/12
Made with Crown paints
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