Hi Jedi
Your suggesting of wholesale changes then. For me thats a risky business, don't you think?
Surely you can't release players such as Tyson, Earnshaw or McCleary that would be commiting promotional suicide!!
Do we have the money to compensate the depatures you mention, I for one very much doubt it, we need to keep what we've got and try and add 2 or 3 more.
It is risky if we twist, but even riskier if we stick. Tyson doesn't offer enough in terms of goals or assists to warrant his retention. A new deal for Earnshaw will see him closing in on retirement and his range of abilities is too limited for big bucks. McCleary, whilst still young, is just not going to improve to the next level.
In terms of money - who knows??!??! (ND obviously).
In terms of money - who knows??!??! (ND obviously).
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Realistically and following the tradition of ND's reign, I would of thought your looking at 2-2.5 million.
Possibly get three players out of that at a push, plus a couple of season long loanees from the Prem.
If that were to happen then maybe yes, you could release some of the players you mention.
A summer of wheeler dealing would certainly be exciting for the fans and maybe persuade them to back the team and purchase a season ticket.
But at all costs we can't have a repeat of last pre season transfer activity or i'm afraid were toast!
hi all reds fans, i dont think king billy will get rid of mc kenna or earnshaw but the others can go.
I wasn't aware McCleary is out of contract? I personally think he's got a lot to offer as a squad player / impact sub and won't be asking the earth in terms of wages. If we release him he'll go to a smaller ambitious club like Millwall, Watford, Palace and probably do well!
I agree with most of the sentiments, as we clearly need a shake-up in the summer. But also I think our key this season has been the teams togetherness and spirit which you run the risk of completely destroying if you scythe through the nucleus of the squad. If I was in the position to negotiate contracts, I would try my hardest to keep Moussi and Earnshaw if it is financially viable. I'd be surprised if Adebola and Bennett get extensions, and I guess Tyson, Garner, Boyd are in the balance.
I'd love to see a couple of the lads from Preston come in (St. Ledger, Treacy) obviously through the Billy connection but they will also be affordable and hungry for success. I think that's essentially the problem with Kris Boyd, he is hungry in the wrong sense of the word!
Anyway, exciting times...
Hopefully 'useless Billy' will go, and take all your out of contract players with him to Annan Athletic or wherever he crawls back to. Useless manager, can't understand him, hasnt got a clue.
Don't know if McCleary is out of contract to be honest. I would have thought he would be. He might do well somewhere else (wouldn't be the first time - e.g. Grant Holt) but I just don't see him, as I said, "going to another level" and that is what is required if fringe players are going to improve the squad.
Although it does sound as though I talking wholesale changes, there are plenty that I would want to remain:
Camp, Gunter, Chambers, Morgan, Maloney, Cohen, Majewski, Anderson, Blackstock, Moussi, McGugan, Tudgay.
To improve (really improve) those coming in must be making these guys who we should keep fighting for 1st team action. There isn't much point signing bench warmers to keep these guys on the field.
I would keep Moussi. Would also offer Earnie and Tys deals for 1 more year.
Get rid of Bennett, McKenna, Dele, McLeary, Garner and Tudgay
we need to keep as many as we can as we have a really small squad Defo need another 3 defenders and a couple of midfielder. as it stands but I think mckenna dele bennett and garner will go so we will need to replace them as well.
we need to keep as many as we can as we have a really small squad Defo need another 3 defenders and a couple of midfielder. as it stands but I think mckenna dele bennett and garner will go so we will need to replace them as well.
mcleary still has a year left on his contract
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posted on 17/5/11
Hi Jedi
Your suggesting of wholesale changes then. For me thats a risky business, don't you think?
Surely you can't release players such as Tyson, Earnshaw or McCleary that would be commiting promotional suicide!!
Do we have the money to compensate the depatures you mention, I for one very much doubt it, we need to keep what we've got and try and add 2 or 3 more.
posted on 17/5/11
It is risky if we twist, but even riskier if we stick. Tyson doesn't offer enough in terms of goals or assists to warrant his retention. A new deal for Earnshaw will see him closing in on retirement and his range of abilities is too limited for big bucks. McCleary, whilst still young, is just not going to improve to the next level.
In terms of money - who knows??!??! (ND obviously).
posted on 17/5/11
In terms of money - who knows??!??! (ND obviously).
_________________________________
Realistically and following the tradition of ND's reign, I would of thought your looking at 2-2.5 million.
Possibly get three players out of that at a push, plus a couple of season long loanees from the Prem.
If that were to happen then maybe yes, you could release some of the players you mention.
A summer of wheeler dealing would certainly be exciting for the fans and maybe persuade them to back the team and purchase a season ticket.
But at all costs we can't have a repeat of last pre season transfer activity or i'm afraid were toast!
posted on 18/5/11
hi all reds fans, i dont think king billy will get rid of mc kenna or earnshaw but the others can go.
posted on 18/5/11
I wasn't aware McCleary is out of contract? I personally think he's got a lot to offer as a squad player / impact sub and won't be asking the earth in terms of wages. If we release him he'll go to a smaller ambitious club like Millwall, Watford, Palace and probably do well!
I agree with most of the sentiments, as we clearly need a shake-up in the summer. But also I think our key this season has been the teams togetherness and spirit which you run the risk of completely destroying if you scythe through the nucleus of the squad. If I was in the position to negotiate contracts, I would try my hardest to keep Moussi and Earnshaw if it is financially viable. I'd be surprised if Adebola and Bennett get extensions, and I guess Tyson, Garner, Boyd are in the balance.
I'd love to see a couple of the lads from Preston come in (St. Ledger, Treacy) obviously through the Billy connection but they will also be affordable and hungry for success. I think that's essentially the problem with Kris Boyd, he is hungry in the wrong sense of the word!
Anyway, exciting times...
posted on 18/5/11
Hopefully 'useless Billy' will go, and take all your out of contract players with him to Annan Athletic or wherever he crawls back to. Useless manager, can't understand him, hasnt got a clue.
posted on 18/5/11
Don't know if McCleary is out of contract to be honest. I would have thought he would be. He might do well somewhere else (wouldn't be the first time - e.g. Grant Holt) but I just don't see him, as I said, "going to another level" and that is what is required if fringe players are going to improve the squad.
Although it does sound as though I talking wholesale changes, there are plenty that I would want to remain:
Camp, Gunter, Chambers, Morgan, Maloney, Cohen, Majewski, Anderson, Blackstock, Moussi, McGugan, Tudgay.
To improve (really improve) those coming in must be making these guys who we should keep fighting for 1st team action. There isn't much point signing bench warmers to keep these guys on the field.
posted on 18/5/11
I would keep Moussi. Would also offer Earnie and Tys deals for 1 more year.
Get rid of Bennett, McKenna, Dele, McLeary, Garner and Tudgay
posted on 18/5/11
we need to keep as many as we can as we have a really small squad Defo need another 3 defenders and a couple of midfielder. as it stands but I think mckenna dele bennett and garner will go so we will need to replace them as well.
posted on 18/5/11
we need to keep as many as we can as we have a really small squad Defo need another 3 defenders and a couple of midfielder. as it stands but I think mckenna dele bennett and garner will go so we will need to replace them as well.
posted on 23/5/11
mcleary still has a year left on his contract
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