Ole
The problem you seem to have is, last season the Liverpool board was a wash with wums telling us how awful it was that we were in the Europa League. "Thursday nights, channel 5" was the cry! Now the boots on the other foot, you come here whinging and insulting us and on what basis? The fact that we can't score for toffee, no! The fact that we have Andy Carroll upfront, no!
You tell us are Manager and greatest player is an abhorrent, politically incorrect racist! When said man, along with his wife has done more for charity and people less fortunate than them. Than most people in the game!!!!!!
Bankers = The bankers from the city of london who are responsible for about 80% of tory party funding, hence the reason they were all taken care of despite the obvious huge part they played in destroying this country's economy.
Stop it! We have our on youths in the likes of Sterling and co..
What happens to them if you buy from Barcelona rather than nurturing them into good class players? How would you attract youths to the academy?
if we mancunians
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*cockneys
Bankers = The bankers from the city of london who are responsible for about 80% of tory party funding, hence the reason they were all taken care of despite the obvious huge part they played in destroying this country's economy.
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Wrong.
Go down to your local Barclays, HSBC, Natwest or whatever and have a word with the tellers or cashiers, the ones doing the banking. The people you're on about are the executives, and only a small percentage of them actually do any banking to begin with and have no banking qualifications because they are managers, not bankers.
So which banks are the 'evil' banks?
Fred, banking exists beyond the high street you know, ever heard of merchant/investment banks?
Go down to your local Barclays, HSBC, Natwest or whatever and have a word with the tellers or cashiers, the ones doing the banking. The people you're on about are the executives, and only a small percentage of them actually do any banking to begin with and have no banking qualifications because they are managers, not bankers.
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You're talking of high street banking. Banking has moved on over the years.
I do hate the Tories anyway. Always trying to make things better for their greedy friends and don't give a thing about the poor.
Banking these days range from investment to much. They're out there gambling with our money ..
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...that the media and the people in that situation are constantly lambasting.
I get sick of it and since this isn't the time or place for a political debate. I've said all I'll say on the issue.
Fred, this is tory party ideology, have the low earners and the people at the very bottom of the food chain argue amongst and blame eachother for the state of the nation, whilst the elite 10% who own 90% of this country's economy keep on raking it in, (and ensure mr cameron is catered for) into the bargain. Tories = party for the rich, and only the rich.
Dr Satan
Would you say you vote for the party that serves you best financially?
Fred, you don't think the collapse of the banks, which was a major factor in the UK entering into a recession could have been lessened had the fat cats not been giving themselves secret envelopes?
Furthermore don't you think the Tories are very naive in how they want to go about getting out of the recession?
They completely underestimate fiscal discipline.
It must be those pesky peasants who put us in this situation, those peasants who earn £200 a week. it can't possibly be us, the people on a million a year and half a million bonuses, given to themselves for a job well done, whilst the banks are crippled and the debt put upon the nation. Bow before us peasants.
I don't vote for any of the three majors, this country needs radical change but while we have murdoch's evil empire and the like filling us with crap like "this country is at risk of a major terrorist threat" then people will ultimately buy it and nothing will change.
The recession that we got into under the Labour government you mean? Under 'the iron chancellor'?
Not arguing with you on this, especially since this is on an article about Iker Muniain .
I vote who I want, and don't begrudge you for voting whoever you vote for, so let's drop it
comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Qu... (U3979)
posted 39 seconds ago
The recession that we got into under the Labour government you mean? Under 'the iron chancellor'?
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I'm not sticking up for any of them but I do believe the banking problems were inevitable no matter who was in power.
Obviously I don't begrudge you the right to vote and it's completely up to you and yes this is a football forum, so yeah.
Out of interest, with you living in France, are you allowed to vote?
comment by Dr Satan (U1449)
posted 11 minutes ago
I don't vote for any of the three majors, this country needs radical change but while we have murdoch's evil empire and the like filling us with crap like "this country is at risk of a major terrorist threat" then people will ultimately buy it and nothing will change.
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No, I'm not a French national. I'm just stuck with either an idiot in Sarkozy for the UMP, a socialist party candidate (very left wing) or Marine Le Pen. Son of the grand wizard of the KKK, Jean Marie le Pen.
However I'm leaving soon anyway.
comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Qu... (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
No, I'm not a French national. I'm just stuck with either an idiot in Sarkozy for the UMP, a socialist party candidate (very left wing) or Marine Le Pen. Son of the grand wizard of the KKK, Jean Marie le Pen.
However I'm leaving soon anyway.
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Where does your next journey take you? I do hope it's not back to the UK.
Let's be honest. You can't blame the bankers (people who work in a high street bank have different titles, ranging from 'cashier' to 'Credit Advisor', as with most useless modern terminology) for doing what best they could within the legal framework. Policy makers are more to blame than the banks themselves.
The whole 'bonus culture' is fully justified and to me people just seem to jump on the bandwagon and have a go at others for earning a lot of money. As Fred says, these people work extremly hard (often 16-18 hour days) and many of them burn out by their mid thirties or just can't cope and quit. Personally I just wouldn't enjoy the job, but many of my friends work in the city.
Interesting ideas here http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/
Da Bomb
When you personally know some of these people you see it from a totally different perspective.
I agree the culture of the City can be somewhat questionable but the financial services industry is responsible for more of our economy than any other sector.
The 1% of guys who are raking it in will also be paying huge amounts in taxes (at least they should be ), they're not the ones having 9 kids so they can get a bigger house, or becoming a drain on the NHS by not looking after themselves properly.
It makes me laugh when people criticise immigrants for stealing our jobs. These guys come over, work ridiculous hours for crap money just to give their family a better life, then you get all the scalls who are born and bred Liverpudlian who would rather sit around getting stoned all day rather than lift a finger to do any work.
I hate the Jeremy Kyle generation with a passion.
Of course there are a proportion of society who want to do little but the youth today get a bad press being labelled workshy and benefit cheats etc etc, however if we are talking benefit cheats then look no further than our great party leaders and colleagues who "used their initiative" shall we say to have moats cleaned, drives re-gravelled, mansions furnished and second and third homes paid for, all by your hard earned tax..................mp's don't you just love'em.
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posted on 9/3/12
Ole
The problem you seem to have is, last season the Liverpool board was a wash with wums telling us how awful it was that we were in the Europa League. "Thursday nights, channel 5" was the cry! Now the boots on the other foot, you come here whinging and insulting us and on what basis? The fact that we can't score for toffee, no! The fact that we have Andy Carroll upfront, no!
You tell us are Manager and greatest player is an abhorrent, politically incorrect racist! When said man, along with his wife has done more for charity and people less fortunate than them. Than most people in the game!!!!!!
posted on 9/3/12
Bankers = The bankers from the city of london who are responsible for about 80% of tory party funding, hence the reason they were all taken care of despite the obvious huge part they played in destroying this country's economy.
posted on 9/3/12
Stop it! We have our on youths in the likes of Sterling and co..
What happens to them if you buy from Barcelona rather than nurturing them into good class players? How would you attract youths to the academy?
posted on 9/3/12
taken care of ^^^
posted on 9/3/12
if we mancunians
==========================
*cockneys
posted on 9/3/12
Bankers = The bankers from the city of london who are responsible for about 80% of tory party funding, hence the reason they were all taken care of despite the obvious huge part they played in destroying this country's economy.
__________________________
Wrong.
Go down to your local Barclays, HSBC, Natwest or whatever and have a word with the tellers or cashiers, the ones doing the banking. The people you're on about are the executives, and only a small percentage of them actually do any banking to begin with and have no banking qualifications because they are managers, not bankers.
So which banks are the 'evil' banks?
posted on 9/3/12
Fred, banking exists beyond the high street you know, ever heard of merchant/investment banks?
posted on 9/3/12
Go down to your local Barclays, HSBC, Natwest or whatever and have a word with the tellers or cashiers, the ones doing the banking. The people you're on about are the executives, and only a small percentage of them actually do any banking to begin with and have no banking qualifications because they are managers, not bankers.
==================
You're talking of high street banking. Banking has moved on over the years.
I do hate the Tories anyway. Always trying to make things better for their greedy friends and don't give a thing about the poor.
posted on 9/3/12
Banking these days range from investment to much. They're out there gambling with our money ..
posted on 9/3/12
Tories
posted on 9/3/12
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posted on 9/3/12
...that the media and the people in that situation are constantly lambasting.
I get sick of it and since this isn't the time or place for a political debate. I've said all I'll say on the issue.
posted on 9/3/12
Fred, this is tory party ideology, have the low earners and the people at the very bottom of the food chain argue amongst and blame eachother for the state of the nation, whilst the elite 10% who own 90% of this country's economy keep on raking it in, (and ensure mr cameron is catered for) into the bargain. Tories = party for the rich, and only the rich.
posted on 9/3/12
Dr Satan
Would you say you vote for the party that serves you best financially?
posted on 9/3/12
Fred, you don't think the collapse of the banks, which was a major factor in the UK entering into a recession could have been lessened had the fat cats not been giving themselves secret envelopes?
Furthermore don't you think the Tories are very naive in how they want to go about getting out of the recession?
They completely underestimate fiscal discipline.
It must be those pesky peasants who put us in this situation, those peasants who earn £200 a week. it can't possibly be us, the people on a million a year and half a million bonuses, given to themselves for a job well done, whilst the banks are crippled and the debt put upon the nation. Bow before us peasants.
posted on 9/3/12
I don't vote for any of the three majors, this country needs radical change but while we have murdoch's evil empire and the like filling us with crap like "this country is at risk of a major terrorist threat" then people will ultimately buy it and nothing will change.
posted on 9/3/12
The recession that we got into under the Labour government you mean? Under 'the iron chancellor'?
Not arguing with you on this, especially since this is on an article about Iker Muniain .
I vote who I want, and don't begrudge you for voting whoever you vote for, so let's drop it
posted on 9/3/12
comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Qu... (U3979)
posted 39 seconds ago
The recession that we got into under the Labour government you mean? Under 'the iron chancellor'?
-----------------------------------------------
I'm not sticking up for any of them but I do believe the banking problems were inevitable no matter who was in power.
Obviously I don't begrudge you the right to vote and it's completely up to you and yes this is a football forum, so yeah.
Out of interest, with you living in France, are you allowed to vote?
posted on 9/3/12
comment by Dr Satan (U1449)
posted 11 minutes ago
I don't vote for any of the three majors, this country needs radical change but while we have murdoch's evil empire and the like filling us with crap like "this country is at risk of a major terrorist threat" then people will ultimately buy it and nothing will change.
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posted on 9/3/12
No, I'm not a French national. I'm just stuck with either an idiot in Sarkozy for the UMP, a socialist party candidate (very left wing) or Marine Le Pen. Son of the grand wizard of the KKK, Jean Marie le Pen.
However I'm leaving soon anyway.
posted on 9/3/12
comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Qu... (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
No, I'm not a French national. I'm just stuck with either an idiot in Sarkozy for the UMP, a socialist party candidate (very left wing) or Marine Le Pen. Son of the grand wizard of the KKK, Jean Marie le Pen.
However I'm leaving soon anyway.
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Where does your next journey take you? I do hope it's not back to the UK.
posted on 9/3/12
Let's be honest. You can't blame the bankers (people who work in a high street bank have different titles, ranging from 'cashier' to 'Credit Advisor', as with most useless modern terminology) for doing what best they could within the legal framework. Policy makers are more to blame than the banks themselves.
The whole 'bonus culture' is fully justified and to me people just seem to jump on the bandwagon and have a go at others for earning a lot of money. As Fred says, these people work extremly hard (often 16-18 hour days) and many of them burn out by their mid thirties or just can't cope and quit. Personally I just wouldn't enjoy the job, but many of my friends work in the city.
Interesting ideas here http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/
posted on 9/3/12
Da Bomb
When you personally know some of these people you see it from a totally different perspective.
posted on 9/3/12
I agree the culture of the City can be somewhat questionable but the financial services industry is responsible for more of our economy than any other sector.
The 1% of guys who are raking it in will also be paying huge amounts in taxes (at least they should be ), they're not the ones having 9 kids so they can get a bigger house, or becoming a drain on the NHS by not looking after themselves properly.
It makes me laugh when people criticise immigrants for stealing our jobs. These guys come over, work ridiculous hours for crap money just to give their family a better life, then you get all the scalls who are born and bred Liverpudlian who would rather sit around getting stoned all day rather than lift a finger to do any work.
I hate the Jeremy Kyle generation with a passion.
posted on 9/3/12
Of course there are a proportion of society who want to do little but the youth today get a bad press being labelled workshy and benefit cheats etc etc, however if we are talking benefit cheats then look no further than our great party leaders and colleagues who "used their initiative" shall we say to have moats cleaned, drives re-gravelled, mansions furnished and second and third homes paid for, all by your hard earned tax..................mp's don't you just love'em.
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