I was just disagreeing with your comment that Em keeps it real. His last two albums should not even be classed as hip-hop.

Jay is comfortably better than Em btw.

Im with that, I liked the Black album and the earlier Blooprints. Annoys me that he sings songs like D.O.A (which I love) and then raps with Kanye/Mr Hudson

How exactly is he not keeping it real? because he uses guitars and a live band?

Didn't jay-z work with linkin' park.

Recovery won HIP-HOP album of the year at the grammys also.

And as for comfortably better than em, the only time they've come up against each other Em thrashed him.

For me this is a bit like Arguing who is better Nottingham Forrest or Leeds United.

Both were once pretty great but are now has-beens.

They're both being drowned out by nonsense dance music.

8Bit, do you mean Pete Rock?

BTW, for all the bits I missed...

Illmatics best track imo is Lifes A Beyatch.

Doggystyle was a classic, but most of Snoops stuff since has been very average.

Jay Z has released more quality albums than most.

Rakims best album was definitely Paid In Full. Didn't particularly get into his solo career, got the 18th Letter, but it had a bonus disc with classics on so the actual album got overlooked!

Eminem is okay, but he has a blueprint and sticks to it. To be brutally honest I cannot remember if I even have hos last couple of albums.

Eminem is more of a lyricist than an MC. If he didn't have rap he could probably do story-telling in some form. Rakim always said that.

Lyricist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69dt5clGPo

Native Tongues

Native Tongues

Listened to your fav Mos Def album today Saint.

Isn't it just great?

I do like it, but have always liked mr Mossy Deffy.

Anyone who doesn't like Mos Def, doesn't like hip-hop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4MkZBBbjxo

De La Soul with Mos Def.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N29WWcLmgzQ

Love the RZA beat on this track! 'Ye does good too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDZYdA0Lig

I was listening to a bit of Run DMC on the bus home today...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDZYdA0Lig

if anyone liked british hip hop, try these guys who are local to where i live!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSl_y1-t4ek

These are local to me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO1wzS3rpLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ahFJmFcY98&feature=related

i'll have a listen to them after the footy.

what do you think of the link i posted?

saint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53vWm8dJGk


think he knows a bit more about hip hop than you.

cheers

8ball&mjg

Thoughts?

Benny

Big shout out to the 80s & 90s My Teenage Years listening to and seeing live - PE, Eric B & Rakim, Brand Nubian, De La Soul, Cypress Hill, House Of Pain, Everlast, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, BDP, ATCQ, JB's, Monie Love, Pharcyde, BEASTIE BOYS, 3rd Base, Big Daddy Kane, Grandmaster Flash, Afrika Bambaata, Suger Hill Gang, EPMD, Black Sheep, Biz Markie, Gang Starr, Guru(rip), Heavy D, Ultramagnetic MCs, Stetsasonic, Chubb Rock, 45 King, NWA, Ice T and the original UK legends STEREO MC's.

Word. Peace. Out.