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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Oh I wasn't suggesting either will necessarily leave immediately, though Salah looks likely. But both will be on the new manager's radar in terms of building success over his time there
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Yeah probably Bales, although I think both have three pr four more years left at the top level.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Oh I wasn't suggesting either will necessarily leave immediately, though Salah looks likely. But both will be on the new manager's radar in terms of building success over his time there
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Yeah probably Bales, although I think both have three pr four more years left at the top level.
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Not sure about that at all. VvD is already dropping off a bit and really you're going to have to buy his successor a season before you actually need him to take over. Or it's potentially a big problem. VdV would've been perfect.

Salah I think is more immediate cos yeah he might be able to go another 3-4 at his level but does he want a big Saudi payday? You couldn't blame him, nor the club if they can get a decent fee

Virgil has been our best player this season???

We’ve been looking at a LCB for a while though tbf, or Klopp has. We’ve been scouting Inacio loads this season apparently.

Ok I'll take your word for it, but for a while there he was comfortably the best CB in the prem, not sure you could say that now

Fair, but while he’s in the conversation I’m happy enough.

It'll be interesting to see how he does but whether he struggles there or doesn't, it may have been different with us. The situations aren't the same, we are an unsuccessful club and have been mainly struggling the last few years, whereas Liverpool have enjoyed a period of success and been used to 1 manager for, what is it? 8 years? I guess they've been left in a better condition to come into than we had for Ange but at the same time, it's hard following a successful longterm manager and now expectations and standards are set high for him almost instantly and with it he may have less time with which to deliver success.

Sometimes it can all be about the timing when you arrive at a new club and the environment. He may be a very good manager but doesn't necessarily mean it'll all work out for him at Liverpool, whereas with us it might have. Or vice versa.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 hours, 18 minutes ago
It'll be interesting to see how he does but whether he struggles there or doesn't, it may have been different with us. The situations aren't the same, we are an unsuccessful club and have been mainly struggling the last few years, whereas Liverpool have enjoyed a period of success and been used to 1 manager for, what is it? 8 years? I guess they've been left in a better condition to come into than we had for Ange but at the same time, it's hard following a successful longterm manager and now expectations and standards are set high for him almost instantly and with it he may have less time with which to deliver success.

Sometimes it can all be about the timing when you arrive at a new club and the environment. He may be a very good manager but doesn't necessarily mean it'll all work out for him at Liverpool, whereas with us it might have. Or vice versa.
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I think some managers are suited to the rebuild project, and others to fine tuning a near finished article. Ange himself said that his best skills are based on coming into a more turbulent club and turning things around and I get the impression that Slot is the same because Feyernood and Alkmaar fit the profile of the unfancied nearly guys of Dutch football. It's a different beast at Liverpool and I wonder whether they're too near the finished article for him. That said, I'm starting to get the impression after last night that this side needs a little surgery and Salah is clearly on the slide. It is starting to look like they need a different voice so it might be the right move anyway.

Despite what others have said I do think there are parallels between this side and the one Sir Alex left behind because Salah is their go to guy for goals and he's looking more and more past it and the younger players now in that squad don't look like they're gelling as well as you might have expected them to. Everyone seems to think that Slot should just carry on competing just as Klopp has but this side is nowhere near the 2019/20 one. I think he'll find it a struggle, just as Moyes did with an ageing United side.

Everyone seems to think that Slot should just carry on competing just as Klopp has but this side is nowhere near the 2019/20 one. I think he'll find it a struggle, just as Moyes did with an ageing United side.
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Name one poster who has said Slot will continue the success after Klopp. This is a made up statement.

On paper I said it is as good as appointment they could make based on the style of both managers. Also consider the pool of managers out there.

I also think Liverpool have some really good youngsters in Quansah, Bradley, Elliot, Clark and McConnell. All played a part in winning a trophy at Wembley.

The only old players Pool have are Salah, Van Dyke, Robertson and Matip. The first two can command huge fees and with Edwards back they will be replaced when the time is right. The rest of the squad are aged 27 or below. Not as old as you think.

But agreed. Slot might fail as others have done so after following a legend. It's never easy but the United comparison with Moyes and the squad is well off.

comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 24 minutes ago
Everyone seems to think that Slot should just carry on competing just as Klopp has but this side is nowhere near the 2019/20 one. I think he'll find it a struggle, just as Moyes did with an ageing United side.
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Name one poster who has said Slot will continue the success after Klopp. This is a made up statement.

On paper I said it is as good as appointment they could make based on the style of both managers. Also consider the pool of managers out there.

I also think Liverpool have some really good youngsters in Quansah, Bradley, Elliot, Clark and McConnell. All played a part in winning a trophy at Wembley.

The only old players Pool have are Salah, Van Dyke, Robertson and Matip. The first two can command huge fees and with Edwards back they will be replaced when the time is right. The rest of the squad are aged 27 or below. Not as old as you think.

But agreed. Slot might fail as others have done so after following a legend. It's never easy but the United comparison with Moyes and the squad is well off.
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Yes, but my point is that, whilst Slot is a good fit based on style of play and the conditions of the squad he's taking over are more favourable than United, it's still an uphill task no matter the state of play. When you take over a legend, it rarely goes right the first time around. The only one I can think of is Bob Paisley taking over Shankly. For all the others, like Sir Alex/Moyes or Wenger/Emery, the odds are stacked against the guy taking over. Even Lineker said fairly recently when commenting on Alonso staying at Leverkusen that it's better to be the guy after the guy taking over Klopp. It's no sleight on Slot, it's just the way things work. Over recent years, Klopp had taken over the recruitment department so there's a lot of sorting out to do at the top, which to be fair, they're already sorting. They won't be nearly in the same mess United were because structurally they're more sound but I still think there might be teething problems. It's just whether a side used to winning has the patience to allow him time to build a side in his image.

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