comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted about a minute ago
Usual Arab logic, if someone doesn’t support a terrorist organisation like Hamas they must hate all brown/black people, which is basically Arab being racist himself by implying all terrorists are brown/black when there’s loads of white terroristshonestly the stupidity of this generation
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So you would be OK with an airstrike on London to take out some terrorists?

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted 39 seconds ago
Usual Arab logic, if someone doesn’t support a terrorist organisation like Hamas they must hate all brown/black people, which is basically Arab being racist himself by implying all terrorists are brown/black when there’s loads of white terroristshonestly the stupidity of this generation
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The only reason Hamas are labelled a terrorist organisation is because the UK & US's unconditional support for Israel. Hamas exists because of Israel's continuous subsidising & support of settlers, the lack of legal recourse for Palestinians displaced by settlers, locking up Palestinians without trial, legal representation or any idea of what they're charged with or when they'll get out. That' of they're lucky and not shot by IDF soldiers.

Antonio Gutteriez was spot on when he said Hamas and Oct 7th doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's a result of decades of the above going on without a whisper of condemnation from the international community of Israel.

Israel is condemned by the U.N. and the international community, it just chooses to ignore the condemnations. If it was treated as a normal state that ignored U.N. resolutions it would be sanctioned, and yet...

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Usual Arab logic, if someone doesn’t support a terrorist organisation like Hamas they must hate all brown/black people, which is basically Arab being racist himself by implying all terrorists are brown/black when there’s loads of white terroristshonestly the stupidity of this generation
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Shut up you mug, where have I said all terrorists are black/brown? Boris asked you if you’d be happy with an air strike on the UK to take out terrorists and innocent bystanders were killed, and you went absolutely quiet. Because you would be happy if those innocent people weren’t white. It’s a simple fact for dopey racists like you and Clappy.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/03/labours-poll-lead-could-still-collapse-shadow-ministers-warned

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 40 minutes ago
Israel is condemned by the U.N. and the international community, it just chooses to ignore the condemnations. If it was treated as a normal state that ignored U.N. resolutions it would be sanctioned, and yet...
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In this latest cycle of violence yeah, its been going on for decades. Not to mention the absentions by UK & US reps' at the UN

Police in Gloucestershire say a man in his 50s has died after a tree fell on the car he was driving near Kemble yesterday afternoon

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 (U12980)
posted 39 seconds ago
Usual Arab logic, if someone doesn’t support a terrorist organisation like Hamas they must hate all brown/black people, which is basically Arab being racist himself by implying all terrorists are brown/black when there’s loads of white terroristshonestly the stupidity of this generation
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The only reason Hamas are labelled a terrorist organisation is because the UK & US's unconditional support for Israel. Hamas exists because of Israel's continuous subsidising & support of settlers, the lack of legal recourse for Palestinians displaced by settlers, locking up Palestinians without trial, legal representation or any idea of what they're charged with or when they'll get out. That' of they're lucky and not shot by IDF soldiers.

Antonio Gutteriez was spot on when he said Hamas and Oct 7th doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's a result of decades of the above going on without a whisper of condemnation from the international community of Israel.


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Decent enough post but had to power through that first sentence... Hamas is a terrorist organisation because it commits acts of terror

Israel deliberately or inadvertently created Hamas through its actions but let's not be silly and call them freedom fighters or a just cause

I don't think any of us are experts in the creation of Hamas, that said, when Israel (Netanyahu) decided that the Palestinian Authority (Abbas) was no longer a reliable 'partner in peace' the propaganda kicked in and they were labelled inept and corrupt and so denied the Palestinse any form of voice and so created the vacuum which Hamas filled.
A termination of meaningful dialogue and negotiation was only ever going to end up in violence, its hard to understand Israel's logic in this regard, you don't parlay for peace with your friends.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?
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If we were harbouring a terrorist and killing that terrorist made the world a safer place and saved many lives in the long run I'd fully understand why it was done.

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?
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If we were harbouring a terrorist and killing that terrorist made the world a safer place and saved many lives in the long run I'd fully understand why it was done.
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Clappy loved the Salisbury novichok killings

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?
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If we were harbouring a terrorist and killing that terrorist made the world a safer place and saved many lives in the long run I'd fully understand why it was done.
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Clappy loved the Salisbury novichok killings
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Bizarre really, by the same logic, Sunak could be fair game to political beliefs in this world that would regard his actions and the actions of our Government as terroristic and so his assassination, regardless of collateral damage (the murders of innocents) could be justified.

Crouchend

Thanks

Not so much freedom fighters however I think the label 'terrorist organisation' is used with a huge amount of.bias by western nations.

People often cite Hamas' charter of the destruction of Israel and Israelis removal from the territory as proof of their terrorist intentions. Yet there's not a peep when Ben Gvir says that Gazan's should leave the strip and claim refugee status in Egypt so Israel can repopulate it.

One standard is applied to Hamas and the standard of convenient ignorance is applied to Israel.

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?
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If we were harbouring a terrorist and killing that terrorist made the world a safer place and saved many lives in the long run I'd fully understand why it was done.
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But who determines who is a terrorist? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, right? Are the IDF terrorists? Is it OK to therefore take them out?

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?
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If we were harbouring a terrorist and killing that terrorist made the world a safer place and saved many lives in the long run I'd fully understand why it was done.
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Yeah bet you'd have a different opinion if your family members or friends were in amongst the collateral. What you've said is easy to advocate from the safety of the UK. Not so much when it practically effects you and isn't abstract.

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
So if the IDF take out someone on the streets of Britain, with a few innocent bystanders killed in the process, Oscar and Clappy won't have a problem with it as long as he was one of the 'bad guys'?
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I take it you had a problem with the way Jihadi John was taken out?
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Is this what they call 'deflection?
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If we were harbouring a terrorist and killing that terrorist made the world a safer place and saved many lives in the long run I'd fully understand why it was done.
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Jesus fwcking Christ

Eh. And Happy New Year everyone. Hope you all had a fantastic break.

Jihadi John was taken out without any ‘collateral damage’, he was also killed in a Conflict Zone.

Comparisons with the death of Saleh al-Arouri are ridiculous

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
Jihadi John was taken out without any ‘collateral damage’, he was also killed in a Conflict Zone.

Comparisons with the death of Saleh al-Arouri are ridiculous
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Oh you didn't notice who made that comparison?

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
Jihadi John was taken out without any ‘collateral damage’, he was also killed in a Conflict Zone.

Comparisons with the death of Saleh al-Arouri are ridiculous
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If the killing of Bin Laden was allowed under international law, why wasn’t this killing?

If Netanyahu had been killed under similar circumstances you lot would be dancing the jig.

If Putin was assassinated by Ukraine in Belarus would you be so quick to condemn? Admit it you wouldn’t.

If Saleh al-Arouri had been wasted in Gaza that would have been alright with you? Seeing as it’s a conflict zone?

GBeebies continues to be a misogynistic channel, did they not learn from the Fox affair?

https://x.com/avasantina/status/1742543111169966456?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

If Netanyahu had been killed under similar circumstances you lot would be dancing the jig.
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Disgusting thing to make up. Shows the lengths you'd go to.

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Netanyahu had been killed under similar circumstances you lot would be dancing the jig.
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Disgusting thing to make up. Shows the lengths you'd go to.
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You’d dance the longest

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Netanyahu had been killed under similar circumstances you lot would be dancing the jig.
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Disgusting thing to make up. Shows the lengths you'd go to.
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You’d dance the longest
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What brings you to that ridiculous conclusion? Something I said?