I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 13 seconds ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Yeah that’s why I have them 3rd for now.
No European footy too, we shall see.
I can see the other 4 teams going deep into their European campaigns so that might play apart.
With injuries who knows.
it really depends how good you and city are. I think we (along with arsenal) could finish at around 80-85 points if we managed to stay fit the rest of the way, but if you or city end up returning to your 90 point form then we have no chance
My top 10
City
Liverpool
Arsenal
Villa
5pud5
West Ham
United
Brighton
Newcastle
Chelsea
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
The away games could be key tbh.
We’ve got Arsenal, Everton, Villa and United away left.
City got us, Newcastle and Spurs away.
Arsenal have City, United and Spurs away.
So a long way to go yet and plenty of points to be dropped.
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
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I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
The impact of player loss over the next month could be a major deciding factor especially as city lose nobody and get the winter break to bring haaland and de bruyne up to speed after injury.
Salah an obvious loss for us but I actually think his performances have been a little average this year even though his output has still been class. Jota back means we still have depth there without him plus Elliott is capable of impacting games from there. Endo not so bad as AMA is back now.
Son for spurs looks massive as I really do think they rely on him soo much. Granted I haven't watched loads of them but everything was through him in the games I have seen.
If some of those key players go far into the competitions it could really hurt. If they only miss 2 premier league games then it should be manageable.
We aren’t in a title race this year - we won’t make 6 points up on Liverpool and given both goal difference and the fact we have to go to Anfield it’s more like 10 points.
Finishing in the CL spots have to be our aim this year and then further good recruitment will allow us to hopefully step up again. The good news is we have the right man in charge and the squad is full of good young players.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
We aren’t in a title race this year - we won’t make 6 points up on Liverpool and given both goal difference and the fact we have to go to Anfield it’s more like 10 points.
Finishing in the CL spots have to be our aim this year and then further good recruitment will allow us to hopefully step up again. The good news is we have the right man in charge and the squad is full of good young players.
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Agree, I do think you will have a good chance at 3rd though especially if Arsenal go deep in the CL.
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Spurs were never in a title race tbh. Sure they will have an effect on who wins it as they are one if the stronger sides but they aren't Villa. I see Villa as contenders but not spurs. Few teams have performed better than Villa in 2023. Spurs having VAR rob Liverpool has kinda given them a boost. Even then I don't see anyone who genuinely thinks they could win the league.
spurs are losing more than us for the acon and asia cup.
they are really impacted.
If we ignore the jibes and focus on the real issues then spurs are massively impacted by injuries and these two tournaments but they are also impacted by being wide open at the back.
No club can take those injuries and not be affected.
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Arsenal
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Geordie Arabia
United
Brighton
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
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That’s crap even by your standards Baz
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comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 21 minutes ago
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That’s crap even by your standards Baz
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United have broken him
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When united are sh!te , everyone is cheating 😂
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
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The most outrageous part of this post is man utd 4th.
lols he actually put utd 4th. just the odd 11 points deficit or so to overcome.
bit disrespectful to west sham who are also above the turgid man utd.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Spurs were never in a title race tbh. Sure they will have an effect on who wins it as they are one if the stronger sides but they aren't Villa. I see Villa as contenders but not spurs. Few teams have performed better than Villa in 2023. Spurs having VAR rob Liverpool has kinda given them a boost. Even then I don't see anyone who genuinely thinks they could win the league.
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yeah well seeing as you tipped Chelsea to finish above us when we were already about 10 games into the season the villa fans reading this should be very nervous
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posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
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The most outrageous part of this post is man utd 4th.
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He could only have meant West Ham Utd surely
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Spurs were never in a title race tbh. Sure they will have an effect on who wins it as they are one if the stronger sides but they aren't Villa. I see Villa as contenders but not spurs. Few teams have performed better than Villa in 2023. Spurs having VAR rob Liverpool has kinda given them a boost. Even then I don't see anyone who genuinely thinks they could win the league.
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yeah well seeing as you tipped Chelsea to finish above us when we were already about 10 games into the season the villa fans reading this should be very nervous
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
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The most outrageous part of this post is man utd 4th.
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He could only have meant West Ham Utd surely
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Well that makes much more sense.
Spurs can be pretty awful when key personnel aren't available as the backups just aren't up to it. With a strong January and a bit of luck on the injury front (and ideally less stupidity on the discipline front), it might be possible to work around the absence of Son/Sarr/Bissouma for an extended period, but more likely I reckon Spurs will be in the fight for 4th or 5th with Villa.
I think City and Liverpool will steadily pull ahead of the pack with Arsenal 3rd.
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posted on 2/1/24
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 13 seconds ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Yeah that’s why I have them 3rd for now.
No European footy too, we shall see.
I can see the other 4 teams going deep into their European campaigns so that might play apart.
With injuries who knows.
posted on 2/1/24
it really depends how good you and city are. I think we (along with arsenal) could finish at around 80-85 points if we managed to stay fit the rest of the way, but if you or city end up returning to your 90 point form then we have no chance
posted on 2/1/24
My top 10
City
Liverpool
Arsenal
Villa
5pud5
West Ham
United
Brighton
Newcastle
Chelsea
posted on 2/1/24
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
posted on 2/1/24
The away games could be key tbh.
We’ve got Arsenal, Everton, Villa and United away left.
City got us, Newcastle and Spurs away.
Arsenal have City, United and Spurs away.
So a long way to go yet and plenty of points to be dropped.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
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I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
posted on 2/1/24
The impact of player loss over the next month could be a major deciding factor especially as city lose nobody and get the winter break to bring haaland and de bruyne up to speed after injury.
Salah an obvious loss for us but I actually think his performances have been a little average this year even though his output has still been class. Jota back means we still have depth there without him plus Elliott is capable of impacting games from there. Endo not so bad as AMA is back now.
Son for spurs looks massive as I really do think they rely on him soo much. Granted I haven't watched loads of them but everything was through him in the games I have seen.
If some of those key players go far into the competitions it could really hurt. If they only miss 2 premier league games then it should be manageable.
posted on 2/1/24
We aren’t in a title race this year - we won’t make 6 points up on Liverpool and given both goal difference and the fact we have to go to Anfield it’s more like 10 points.
Finishing in the CL spots have to be our aim this year and then further good recruitment will allow us to hopefully step up again. The good news is we have the right man in charge and the squad is full of good young players.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
We aren’t in a title race this year - we won’t make 6 points up on Liverpool and given both goal difference and the fact we have to go to Anfield it’s more like 10 points.
Finishing in the CL spots have to be our aim this year and then further good recruitment will allow us to hopefully step up again. The good news is we have the right man in charge and the squad is full of good young players.
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Agree, I do think you will have a good chance at 3rd though especially if Arsenal go deep in the CL.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Spurs were never in a title race tbh. Sure they will have an effect on who wins it as they are one if the stronger sides but they aren't Villa. I see Villa as contenders but not spurs. Few teams have performed better than Villa in 2023. Spurs having VAR rob Liverpool has kinda given them a boost. Even then I don't see anyone who genuinely thinks they could win the league.
posted on 2/1/24
spurs are losing more than us for the acon and asia cup.
they are really impacted.
If we ignore the jibes and focus on the real issues then spurs are massively impacted by injuries and these two tournaments but they are also impacted by being wide open at the back.
No club can take those injuries and not be affected.
posted on 2/1/24
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Arsenal
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Utd
Villa
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Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
posted on 2/1/24
Liverpool
City
Arsenal
Villa
Geordie Arabia
United
Brighton
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
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That’s crap even by your standards Baz
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 21 minutes ago
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That’s crap even by your standards Baz
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United have broken him
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 41 minutes ago
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When united are sh!te , everyone is cheating 😂
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
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The most outrageous part of this post is man utd 4th.
posted on 2/1/24
lols he actually put utd 4th. just the odd 11 points deficit or so to overcome.
bit disrespectful to west sham who are also above the turgid man utd.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Spurs were never in a title race tbh. Sure they will have an effect on who wins it as they are one if the stronger sides but they aren't Villa. I see Villa as contenders but not spurs. Few teams have performed better than Villa in 2023. Spurs having VAR rob Liverpool has kinda given them a boost. Even then I don't see anyone who genuinely thinks they could win the league.
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yeah well seeing as you tipped Chelsea to finish above us when we were already about 10 games into the season the villa fans reading this should be very nervous
posted on 2/1/24
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
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Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is man utd 4th.
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He could only have meant West Ham Utd surely
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Spurs were never in a title race tbh. Sure they will have an effect on who wins it as they are one if the stronger sides but they aren't Villa. I see Villa as contenders but not spurs. Few teams have performed better than Villa in 2023. Spurs having VAR rob Liverpool has kinda given them a boost. Even then I don't see anyone who genuinely thinks they could win the league.
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yeah well seeing as you tipped Chelsea to finish above us when we were already about 10 games into the season the villa fans reading this should be very nervous
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posted on 2/1/24
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
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Villa
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Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is man utd 4th.
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He could only have meant West Ham Utd surely
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Well that makes much more sense.
posted on 2/1/24
Spurs can be pretty awful when key personnel aren't available as the backups just aren't up to it. With a strong January and a bit of luck on the injury front (and ideally less stupidity on the discipline front), it might be possible to work around the absence of Son/Sarr/Bissouma for an extended period, but more likely I reckon Spurs will be in the fight for 4th or 5th with Villa.
I think City and Liverpool will steadily pull ahead of the pack with Arsenal 3rd.
posted on 2/1/24
Strong January window*
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