comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 3 hours ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Son will be the big miss for us. We can make-do in CM without Bissouma and Sarr, as we have had to at times this season anyway. Bentancur back for us is a massive plus.
Johnson is rapid but doesnt have the output of Son and Richy is like Nunez, you dont know what you'll get from him game to game.
I would be interested to see what we can achieve when we have a fully fit squad to chose from. Our Best XI so far this season was not beaten by anyone, and we didnt have Bentancur in the team so really we havent even played out best XI yet.
Don't expect a title challenge, never did even when top, but wouldnt rule out anything happening if we made it to February in touch with the top and that could happen.
City still look strong faves to me. They'll get their game face on and are right there despite key injuries.
LFC dont look at the same level as City yet.
Villa I suspect will fall a way a bit as the season grinds on.
Arsenal might just lose it a bit if the chance of the title slips much further away. If the title is the expectation/ambition, once that chance goes its more difficult to be aiming for 2nd.
Cannot see United or Chelsea making up the ground to make the top 5
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Utd
Villa
…
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Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is it’s all true .
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Thanks mont, maybe you aren’t a Liverpool supporter after all and actually do like Leeds.
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
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I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
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If we play like how we've done the last 2 games, it doesn't matter what team you field, you'll still beat us convincingly.
The last two performances have really wrecked my confidence. I thought we'd put those type of displays behind in 2021, but it's worrying we still have it in us to play like that.
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Utd
Villa
…
…
Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is it’s all true .
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Thanks mont, maybe you aren’t a Liverpool supporter after all and actually do like Leeds.
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Honestly Baz I really don't remember saying that. but I do love Leeds.
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Utd
Villa
…
…
Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is it’s all true .
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Thanks mont, maybe you aren’t a Liverpool supporter after all and actually do like Leeds.
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comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
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I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
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If we play like how we've done the last 2 games, it doesn't matter what team you field, you'll still beat us convincingly.
The last two performances have really wrecked my confidence. I thought we'd put those type of displays behind in 2021, but it's worrying we still have it in us to play like that.
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Watching the highlights of your game v West Ham it looked like you played well. That’s what Arteta said as well. Was he wrong?
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
If we play like how we've done the last 2 games, it doesn't matter what team you field, you'll still beat us convincingly.
The last two performances have really wrecked my confidence. I thought we'd put those type of displays behind in 2021, but it's worrying we still have it in us to play like that.
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Not sure, I just don’t see this being a priority for us.
We’re well placed in the league cup, same with the Europa, and the league.
Add the FA cup into the mix, nah we’re good.
Yeah I think the fa cup has become 4th priority now. Going out to Arsenal away is probably the toughest game you can get apart from City. And being 2 games away from Wembley is a great chance for this new team to get that winning feeling back in the Carabao.
Europa we are favourites aswell, especially with Klopps European record. We’ve really got a great chance of doing something special this season. I’d actually take 2nd but win Europa and Caraboa tbh.
Finish above Cheaty, win the league.
comment by A hoe for Dominik Szoboszlai. A Szobwhoreszlai {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 6 minutes ago
Finish above Cheaty, win the league.
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That’s how it works.
Watching the highlights of your game v West Ham it looked like you played well. That’s what Arteta said as well. Was he wrong?
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We played OK, but we're not circulating the ball as fast and we keep passing the ball backwards and sideways, so it gives teams time to settle into their defensive formation out of possession and, due to the absence of Xhaka/inclusion of Havertz in midfield, Rice is basically having to do the work of 2 players to cover so much ground. Partey's qualities are a miss too, but if someone's unavailable for 50% of matches since 2020, I can't regard them as a key player for us.
We currently don't have anyone getting in behind defences, no rotations/combinations between the front 3, no-one comfortable playing in between the lines or driving at defences. It's too rigid and too pedestrian.
I suspect Arteta was so scarred by what happened at the end of last season that he's trying to overcompensate by being more methodical and controlling of the ball so we don't give the ball away. The issue is it's come at the expense of our attack scoring goals, our chance creation and players clearly aren't as comfortable with these new tactics.
Until he rectifies this, teams now have a blueprint of how to play against us and we will struggle.
City will win the league, none of the other teams have a striker capable of finding the net regularly enough.
Liverpool have Salah but they also have the big Uruguayan spoon footed donkey who will cost you every now and then, he's a handful and he strikes fear into the hearts of defenders as often as he has opposition fans rolling over laughing. A clinical striker in and Salah back from AFCON while still in the mix and it's 50/50.
Arsenal are even more limp wristed, they need a goal scorer so badly. Jesus more composed and silky than Nunez but barely any more reliable at putting the ball in the net.
Spurs have a finisher but he's also away on international duty shortly, a paper thin squad and lack of that winning mentality ties their hands when it gets to the crux of it.
Villa the surprise packages, with a reliable finisher. A manager that knows what he's doing at the business end of cup competitions at least. Will probably continue to do well but surely not enough overall quality to win it unless everyone else falls over each other again in the second half of the seasons.
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Aston Villa
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
The right signings would change the order drastically for any of those teams.
If Arsenal get Toney and he's fit and firing from the off they can definitely win it. I don't think they will and he's bound to be rusty when he gets back.
I think its city and liverpool, mainly because of qual6og squad depth and used to going the course.
Of course the table looks tight, but realistically the others just dont have the squad depth and it will show.
comment by A hoe for Dominik Szoboszlai. A Szobwhoreszlai {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 day ago
Finish above Cheaty, win the league.
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A lot of teams will finish above Everton but only 1 of them will win the league
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posted on 2/1/24
comment by Mo Salahhhhh 7-0 Egyptian King 👑 (U8829)
posted 3 hours ago
I still think Spurs aren’t out of this race yet, especially when they get Maddison and Van Der Ven back. Like us without Salah and Endo, will be interesting how they get on without Son, Sarr and Bissouma for the next month.
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Son will be the big miss for us. We can make-do in CM without Bissouma and Sarr, as we have had to at times this season anyway. Bentancur back for us is a massive plus.
Johnson is rapid but doesnt have the output of Son and Richy is like Nunez, you dont know what you'll get from him game to game.
I would be interested to see what we can achieve when we have a fully fit squad to chose from. Our Best XI so far this season was not beaten by anyone, and we didnt have Bentancur in the team so really we havent even played out best XI yet.
Don't expect a title challenge, never did even when top, but wouldnt rule out anything happening if we made it to February in touch with the top and that could happen.
City still look strong faves to me. They'll get their game face on and are right there despite key injuries.
LFC dont look at the same level as City yet.
Villa I suspect will fall a way a bit as the season grinds on.
Arsenal might just lose it a bit if the chance of the title slips much further away. If the title is the expectation/ambition, once that chance goes its more difficult to be aiming for 2nd.
Cannot see United or Chelsea making up the ground to make the top 5
posted on 2/1/24
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Utd
Villa
…
…
Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is it’s all true .
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Thanks mont, maybe you aren’t a Liverpool supporter after all and actually do like Leeds.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
If we play like how we've done the last 2 games, it doesn't matter what team you field, you'll still beat us convincingly.
The last two performances have really wrecked my confidence. I thought we'd put those type of displays behind in 2021, but it's worrying we still have it in us to play like that.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Utd
Villa
…
…
Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
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The most outrageous part of this post is it’s all true .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks mont, maybe you aren’t a Liverpool supporter after all and actually do like Leeds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Honestly Baz I really don't remember saying that. but I do love Leeds.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Utd
Villa
…
…
Liverpool 14th in league 2 after a massive points deduction for bribing var and other cheating
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The most outrageous part of this post is it’s all true .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks mont, maybe you aren’t a Liverpool supporter after all and actually do like Leeds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
If we play like how we've done the last 2 games, it doesn't matter what team you field, you'll still beat us convincingly.
The last two performances have really wrecked my confidence. I thought we'd put those type of displays behind in 2021, but it's worrying we still have it in us to play like that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watching the highlights of your game v West Ham it looked like you played well. That’s what Arteta said as well. Was he wrong?
posted on 2/1/24
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know we're technically 'only' 5 points off the top, but I think we've left ourselves too much to do and have to be careful we're not dragged into a top-4 race. We're currently closer to Spurs than we are to Liverpool, which speaks volume about how bad our recent form is.
You can't drop points in all the games against Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea, Fulham and West Ham, yet expect to win the title. Second half of the season, we have some difficult away fixtures also. I think we're going to drop a lot more points too.
For us to win the title now, we'll have to win between 14-16 of the remaining 18 matches, which is basically almost impeccable form, and it's not likely we do that at all.
I think we should just focus on securing top-4 and go all out for the cups. This squad isn't capable of a title charge.
Not ideal that we're playing you lot in the FA Cup, but the game has taken on more importance after recent results.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we’ll be rotating heavily for our FA cup game tbf as we have the 2 league cup semi final games this month too.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
If we play like how we've done the last 2 games, it doesn't matter what team you field, you'll still beat us convincingly.
The last two performances have really wrecked my confidence. I thought we'd put those type of displays behind in 2021, but it's worrying we still have it in us to play like that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure, I just don’t see this being a priority for us.
We’re well placed in the league cup, same with the Europa, and the league.
Add the FA cup into the mix, nah we’re good.
posted on 2/1/24
Yeah I think the fa cup has become 4th priority now. Going out to Arsenal away is probably the toughest game you can get apart from City. And being 2 games away from Wembley is a great chance for this new team to get that winning feeling back in the Carabao.
Europa we are favourites aswell, especially with Klopps European record. We’ve really got a great chance of doing something special this season. I’d actually take 2nd but win Europa and Caraboa tbh.
posted on 2/1/24
Finish above Cheaty, win the league.
posted on 2/1/24
comment by A hoe for Dominik Szoboszlai. A Szobwhoreszlai {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 6 minutes ago
Finish above Cheaty, win the league.
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That’s how it works.
posted on 2/1/24
Watching the highlights of your game v West Ham it looked like you played well. That’s what Arteta said as well. Was he wrong?
=====
We played OK, but we're not circulating the ball as fast and we keep passing the ball backwards and sideways, so it gives teams time to settle into their defensive formation out of possession and, due to the absence of Xhaka/inclusion of Havertz in midfield, Rice is basically having to do the work of 2 players to cover so much ground. Partey's qualities are a miss too, but if someone's unavailable for 50% of matches since 2020, I can't regard them as a key player for us.
We currently don't have anyone getting in behind defences, no rotations/combinations between the front 3, no-one comfortable playing in between the lines or driving at defences. It's too rigid and too pedestrian.
I suspect Arteta was so scarred by what happened at the end of last season that he's trying to overcompensate by being more methodical and controlling of the ball so we don't give the ball away. The issue is it's come at the expense of our attack scoring goals, our chance creation and players clearly aren't as comfortable with these new tactics.
Until he rectifies this, teams now have a blueprint of how to play against us and we will struggle.
posted on 2/1/24
City will win the league, none of the other teams have a striker capable of finding the net regularly enough.
Liverpool have Salah but they also have the big Uruguayan spoon footed donkey who will cost you every now and then, he's a handful and he strikes fear into the hearts of defenders as often as he has opposition fans rolling over laughing. A clinical striker in and Salah back from AFCON while still in the mix and it's 50/50.
Arsenal are even more limp wristed, they need a goal scorer so badly. Jesus more composed and silky than Nunez but barely any more reliable at putting the ball in the net.
Spurs have a finisher but he's also away on international duty shortly, a paper thin squad and lack of that winning mentality ties their hands when it gets to the crux of it.
Villa the surprise packages, with a reliable finisher. A manager that knows what he's doing at the business end of cup competitions at least. Will probably continue to do well but surely not enough overall quality to win it unless everyone else falls over each other again in the second half of the seasons.
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Aston Villa
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
posted on 2/1/24
The right signings would change the order drastically for any of those teams.
If Arsenal get Toney and he's fit and firing from the off they can definitely win it. I don't think they will and he's bound to be rusty when he gets back.
posted on 2/1/24
I think its city and liverpool, mainly because of qual6og squad depth and used to going the course.
Of course the table looks tight, but realistically the others just dont have the squad depth and it will show.
posted on 3/1/24
comment by A hoe for Dominik Szoboszlai. A Szobwhoreszlai {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 day ago
Finish above Cheaty, win the league.
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A lot of teams will finish above Everton but only 1 of them will win the league
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